Current Events > Republicans are now claiming the AP is working with Hamas .

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cjsdowg
05/17/21 10:57:54 PM
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To justify Israel attacking the Press. American try to suggest the AP one of the most respected news organizations in the world is working with Hamas.

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1394385978878476290

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hockeybub89
05/17/21 10:58:54 PM
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David1988
05/17/21 11:00:21 PM
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Disgusting. I would love hear what our president had to say about the bombing of the AP office too

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Antifar
05/17/21 11:00:26 PM
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Some real 2002 energy to this

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monkmith
05/17/21 11:01:08 PM
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at what point does it become ok for a senator to drop trou, pinch a loaf in his/her hand, and huck it at tom cotton? i feel like we've reached that point.

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CADE FOSTER
05/17/21 11:02:30 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
GOP and their voters are monsters.
Heartless,Soul less evil tbh
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Atralis
05/17/21 11:03:44 PM
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The AP is a fairly loosely organized organization and I could totally see some of their reporters looking the other way in regards to the actions of Hamas while operating in Gaza.
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Sayoria
05/17/21 11:05:40 PM
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Republicans hate Hamas because they assume it is the same thing as hummus.

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Atralis
05/17/21 11:06:56 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Republicans hate Hamas because they assume it is the same thing as hummus.

Democrats hate Hamas, the EU hates Hamas. Its a designated terrorist organization. They've literally blown up busses full of civilians with suicide bombers.
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RadiantJoyrock
05/17/21 11:06:57 PM
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Atralis posted...
The AP is a fairly loosely organized organization and I could totally see some of their reporters looking the other way in regards to the actions of Hamas while operating in Gaza.
If anything, its more likely they either didn't have much choice, or they weren't doing it at all.
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Questionmarktarius
05/17/21 11:08:08 PM
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AP in Gaza pretty much has to look the other way about Hamas, or there'd be no AP in Gaza.
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RadiantJoyrock
05/17/21 11:09:19 PM
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Atralis posted...
Democrats hate Hamas, the EU hates Hamas. Its a designated terrorist organization. They've literally blown up busses full of civilians with suicide bombers.
My understanding of the situation is its a lot of morally gray circumstances and morally black choices. People acting like either side is right are inevitably missing lots of details.
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cjsdowg
05/17/21 11:10:29 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
AP in Gaza pretty much has to look the other way about Hamas, or there'd be no AP in Gaza.

With Israel around there is not AP in Gaza.

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Questionmarktarius
05/17/21 11:11:43 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
With Israel around there is not AP in Gaza.
Well, not anymore, no.
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COVxy
05/17/21 11:12:00 PM
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I would be very surprised if we were to learn that Hamas was not in fact operating out of that building. I would also be very surprised if we were to learn that AP was somehow complicit with their dealings.

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Atralis
05/17/21 11:13:08 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
My understanding of the situation is its a lot of morally gray circumstances and morally black choices. People acting like either side is right are inevitably missing lots of details.

The situation is that Hamas is trying to kill as many Israelis as they can, civilians included and they've killed about 10 people. If Israel wanted to do the same in Gaza they would drive away and then fire a dozen nukes at the region and kill every living person in the entire territory.

Hamas' whole strategy is to basically shoot fireworks at Israel as the Israelis blow up buildings at will and then they will tell the Palestinians "We won" because the bombing will eventually stop.

Its sad.
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Questionmarktarius
05/17/21 11:13:45 PM
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COVxy posted...
I would also be very surprised if we were to learn that AP was somehow complicit with their dealings.
I don't think AP was actively participating, no.
It is plausible that a Hamas satellite did have offices in the building.

Or, Israel was being a bit overzealous, again.
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RadiantJoyrock
05/17/21 11:16:23 PM
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Atralis posted...
The situation is that Hamas is trying to kill as many Israelis as they can, civilians included and they've killed about 10 people. If Israel wanted to do the same in Gaza they would drive away and then fire a dozen nukes at the region and kill every living person in the entire territory.

Hamas' whole strategy is to basically shoot fireworks at Israel as the Israelis blow up buildings at will and then they will tell the Palestinians "We won" because the bombing will eventually stop.

Its sad.
Hamas also has legitimate grievances. Same as Israel. And Israel is responsible for excessive violence, same as Hamas. Acting like one side or the other is definitively wrong or right will get nowhere.
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au_gold
05/17/21 11:17:26 PM
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Questionmarktarius
05/17/21 11:19:30 PM
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The dude's name is literally "cotton".

Think about that.
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gunplagirl
05/17/21 11:20:16 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
My understanding of the situation is its a lot of morally gray circumstances and morally black choices. People acting like either side is right are inevitably missing lots of details.
"Both sides" is actually the least enlightened perspective on this situation. Full on, everything can be traced back to when the state of Israel was formed by seizing land (houses and everything) from Palestinians.

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DepreceV2
05/17/21 11:26:12 PM
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au_gold posted...

Please dont tell me that is a real quote. Its not right?

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Smashingpmkns
05/17/21 11:28:53 PM
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There's still 0 proof that Hamas was operating out of that building.
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gunplagirl
05/17/21 11:31:03 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Please dont tell me that is a real quote. Its not right?
It was real

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/17/21 11:33:35 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Hamas also has legitimate grievances. Same as Israel. And Israel is responsible for excessive violence, same as Hamas. Acting like one side or the other is definitively wrong or right will get nowhere.

Hamas is a terrorist organization, stop trying to legitimize them

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Questionmarktarius
05/17/21 11:34:37 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Please dont tell me that is a real quote. Its not right?
This is Tom Cotton, so probably.
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monkmith
05/17/21 11:54:40 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Hamas is a terrorist organization, stop trying to legitimize them
technically they're the elected government, well past their term sure but hell so's the Israeli prime minister who's pushing for war to keep from going to jail...

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hockeybub89
05/17/21 11:59:45 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Hamas is a terrorist organization, stop trying to legitimize them
So just like a lot of legitimate governments in the Middle East

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/18/21 12:03:40 AM
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monkmith posted...
technically they're the elected government, well past their term sure but hell so's the Israeli prime minister who's pushing for war to keep from going to jail...

Technically Canada, the European Union, Israel, Japan and the United States classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, its not just an opinion.

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RadiantJoyrock
05/18/21 12:16:27 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Hamas is a terrorist organization, stop trying to legitimize them
I'm not. Jesus you're dense.
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DepreceV2
05/18/21 12:48:02 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
It was real

Jesus fucking Christ

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ssjevot
05/18/21 12:54:03 AM
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monkmith posted...
technically they're the elected government, well past their term sure but hell so's the Israeli prime minister who's pushing for war to keep from going to jail...

That's not correct. Although they received 45% of the vote in the election back in 2006, the Fatah president who was also elected was effectively couped after he pushed for legal amendments popular with the public but not Hamas. This led to a war between Fatah and Hamas, with each controlling one area of Palestine. Fatah is just as much the elected government as Hamas. You should really read up on the background of what happened in those elections and after.

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pistachio12
05/18/21 1:27:53 AM
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Atralis posted...
The situation is that Hamas is trying to kill as many Israelis as they can, civilians included and they've killed about 10 people. If Israel wanted to do the same in Gaza they would drive away and then fire a dozen nukes at the region and kill every living person in the entire territory.

From what I've read, their first barrage of rockets killed no one. Israel then responded with their own missile attacks and killed far more people. Israel has struck hospitals and killed 20x more people than the Israelis.
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untrustful
05/18/21 1:50:41 AM
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The only way we can be truly safe is if we bomb every building that Hamas agents could be hiding in. It's the only way.

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cjsdowg
05/18/21 1:52:45 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...


Technically Canada, the European Union, Israel, Japan and the United States classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, its not just an opinion

They also called Mandela a terrorist while Israel armed apartheid South Africa.

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Atralis
05/18/21 2:20:24 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
They also called Mandela a terrorist while Israel armed apartheid South Africa.

Did Mandela endorse suicide bombing buses full of white children?

If he had then I bet he wouldn't have gotten to be the leader of South Africa after the end of apartheid.
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Sayoria
05/18/21 9:32:31 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
It was real

Good ole Uncle Tom Cotton.

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ModLogic
05/18/21 9:39:01 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
There's still 0 proof that Hamas was operating out of that building.
us and friends dont need proof. we are supposed to blindly trust them.

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DarkRoast
05/18/21 9:41:00 AM
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"Hamas really isn't a terrorist organization" is a really shit take that undermines advocacy for Palestine by falsely equating the two, giving Hamas legitimacy it doesn't deserve and making Palestine look bad.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/18/21 10:00:26 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
They also called Mandela a terrorist while Israel armed apartheid South Africa.

Comparing Hamas to Nelson Mandela? Now that is a spicy take

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NinjaWarrior455
05/18/21 10:06:09 AM
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Why is it always the shitposters that bring up Hamas when no one has expressed any support for them

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cjsdowg
05/18/21 10:08:04 AM
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Atralis posted...


Did Mandela endorse suicide bombing buses full of white children?

If he had then I bet he wouldn't have gotten to be the leader of South Africa after the end of apartheid.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Comparing Hamas to Nelson Mandela? Now that is a spicy take


I am not comparing the two. I am highlighting that all you have to do to be called a terrorist by the US isn't that hard. Israel has literally done worse then Hamas . That doesn't mean Hamas is good. That mean they are both shit. But when get one shity group billions of dollars while we don't have health care and have homeless issue.

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Tyranthraxus
05/18/21 10:22:50 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
I am not comparing the two. I am highlighting that all you have to do to be called a terrorist by the US isn't that hard.

Apparently torturing and killing American citizens and then dissolving the dismembered remains in acid gets you called an ally tho.

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DarkRoast
05/18/21 10:24:02 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Why is it always the shitposters that bring up Hamas when no one has expressed any support for them

Because Hamas controls Gaza, not Palestine?

That's kind of an important point being missed here.

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Orchestrion
05/19/21 9:09:58 AM
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Broseph had been arguing that for about a week

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Ruvan22
05/19/21 10:22:47 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I mean we had Democrats on this board essentially saying the same bullshit, its not surprising that this narrative is picking up traction. It requires no thought while justifying a completely fucked up attack on the press.

Which Democrats on this board said the AP was working with Hamas?
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