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KamenRiderBlade 05/12/21 10:58:34 PM #1:	https://www.autoblog.com/2021/05/12/man-arrested-in-back-seat-driverless-tesla/ 'It was actually designed to be ridden in the back seat,' man claims wrongly The recent Previous crash where there was nobody in the drivers seat of a Tesla. https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/22/tesla-model-s-crash-autopilot-read-this/ Investigators are certain nobody was in the driver's seat for the recent, deadly Tesla Model S crash in Texas https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/ --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953846660] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>https://www.autoblog.com/2021/05/12/man-arrested-in-back-seat-driverless-tesla/ <quote>'It was actually designed to be ridden in the back seat,' man claims wrongly</quote> The recent Previous crash where there was nobody in the drivers seat of a Tesla. https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/22/tesla-model-s-crash-autopilot-read-this/ <quote>Investigators are certain nobody was in the driver's seat for the recent, deadly Tesla Model S crash in Texas</quote> https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/12/21 11:01:32 PM #3:	This is Elons fault. This is blood on his hands. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:953846759] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>This is Elons fault. This is blood on his hands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/12/21 11:17:56 PM #4:	iPhone_7 posted... This is Elons fault. This is blood on his hands. He's going to pass the buck onto the driver. He says that the end user didn't follow his on screen EULA and Warning. He's been doing this since day one. There's already been several deaths due to Tesla's "Auto-Pilot" systems. Do you like it when Rich Silicon Valley CEO's experiment on the populace to test their products? That's Tesla and many other Silicon Valley type CEO's in a nut shell. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953847174] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>This is Elons fault. This is blood on his hands.</quote>He's going to pass the buck onto the driver. He says that the end user didn't follow his on screen EULA and Warning. He's been doing this since day one. There's already been several deaths due to Tesla's "Auto-Pilot" systems. Do you like it when Rich Silicon Valley CEO's experiment on the populace to test their products? That's Tesla and many other Silicon Valley type CEO's in a nut shell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 05/12/21 11:20:17 PM #5:	KamenRiderBlade posted... He's going to pass the buck onto the driver. He says that the end user didn't follow his on screen EULA and Warning. He's been doing this since day one. There's already been several deaths due to Tesla's "Auto-Pilot" systems. Do you like it when Rich Silicon Valley CEO's experiment on the populace to test their products? That's Tesla and many other Silicon Valley type CEO's in a nut shell. IIRC the system wasn't even on for the last case. Dunno if that's on the driver or the car. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:953847237] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>KamenRiderBlade posted... </cite> <quote>He's going to pass the buck onto the driver. He says that the end user didn't follow his on screen EULA and Warning. He's been doing this since day one. There's already been several deaths due to Tesla's "Auto-Pilot" systems. Do you like it when Rich Silicon Valley CEO's experiment on the populace to test their products? That's Tesla and many other Silicon Valley type CEO's in a nut shell.</quote> IIRC the system wasn't even on for the last case. Dunno if that's on the driver or the car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadlyNinjaBees 05/12/21 11:20:45 PM #6:	Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens. --- Soi Disantra. <cite>DeadlyNinjaBees posted [p:953847248] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/12/21 11:21:30 PM #7:	Guide posted... IIRC the system wasn't even on for the last case. Dunno if that's on the driver or the car. NHTSA is still investigating that one. But when they found the charred bodies, nobody was in the drivers seat. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953847266] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>IIRC the system wasn't even on for the last case. Dunno if that's on the driver or the car.</quote>NHTSA is still investigating that one. But when they found the charred bodies, nobody was in the drivers seat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/12/21 11:22:47 PM #8:	DeadlyNinjaBees posted... Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens. How many people ignore the EULA / Warning labels when they deal with a new program? ALOT, and his safety mechanisms didn't work or were easily bypassed. https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/ --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953847299] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>DeadlyNinjaBees posted... </cite> <quote>Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens.</quote>How many people ignore the EULA / Warning labels when they deal with a new program? ALOT, and his safety mechanisms didn't work or were easily bypassed. https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 05/12/21 11:23:31 PM #9:	I've been surfing on top of mine like a Teen Wolf without any problems. If Elon didn't want me to do it he'd call me personally. He can see all my driving data. He knows what I'm doing. If I'm injured it's on him at this point. --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:953847325] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>I've been surfing on top of mine like a Teen Wolf without any problems. If Elon didn't want me to do it he'd call me personally. He can see all my driving data. He knows what I'm doing. If I'm injured it's on him at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 05/12/21 11:24:24 PM #10:	Oakland taking ghostriding into the future --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:953847343] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Oakland taking ghostriding into the future </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 05/12/21 11:27:32 PM #11:	KamenRiderBlade posted... How many people ignore the EULA / Warning labels when they deal with a new program? ALOT, and his safety mechanisms didn't work or were easily bypassed. https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/ Okay, a lot of people do that, aaand? That's still on them. Same as drunk driving. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:953847431] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>KamenRiderBlade posted... </cite> <quote>How many people ignore the EULA / Warning labels when they deal with a new program? ALOT, and his safety mechanisms didn't work or were easily bypassed. https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/</quote> Okay, a lot of people do that, aaand? That's still on them. Same as drunk driving. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 05/12/21 11:29:52 PM #12:	I honestly can't tell if people are serious that it's Tesla's fault that no one was in the driver seat --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:953847480] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>I honestly can't tell if people are serious that it's Tesla's fault that no one was in the driver seat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 05/12/21 11:29:57 PM #13:	DeadlyNinjaBees posted... Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens. thing is, iwata never came out and said publically that the wiimotes were TV repellent and perfectly safe to throw at the screen. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:953847483] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>DeadlyNinjaBees posted... </cite> <quote>Look, I'm no Elon worshipper/fan/enabler, however, these cars are sold with instructions telling you to always be in the driver's seat. How is customer misuse Musk's fault? That's like saying Nintendo is responsible for all the times Wii-motes smashed TV screens.</quote>thing is, iwata never came out and said publically that the wiimotes were TV repellent and perfectly safe to throw at the screen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadlyNinjaBees 05/12/21 11:31:12 PM #14:	Guide posted... Okay, a lot of people do that, aaand? That's still on them. Same as drunk driving. I can't see how this should not be the standard societal reaction, tbh. People misuse shit all the time. I had an ex that slapped me with a chicken breast, once. --- Soi Disantra. <cite>DeadlyNinjaBees posted [p:953847516] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Okay, a lot of people do that, aaand? That's still on them. Same as drunk driving.</quote>I can't see how this should not be the standard societal reaction, tbh. People misuse shit all the time. I had an ex that slapped me with a chicken breast, once. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadlyNinjaBees 05/12/21 11:31:50 PM #15:	monkmith posted... thing is, iwata never came out and said publically that the wiimotes were TV repellent and perfectly safe to throw at the screen. That is a very, very good point. --- Soi Disantra. <cite>DeadlyNinjaBees posted [p:953847537] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>thing is, iwata never came out and said publically that the wiimotes were TV repellent and perfectly safe to throw at the screen.</quote>That is a very, very good point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 05/12/21 11:33:51 PM #16:	People fear mongering over this are pathetic and regressive. Driverless vehicles are still the future and one case of misuse will not prevent that. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:953847589] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>People fear mongering over this are pathetic and regressive. Driverless vehicles are still the future and one case of misuse will not prevent that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 05/12/21 11:37:04 PM #17:	Kloe_Rinz posted... People fear mongering over this are pathetic and regressive. Driverless vehicles are still the future and one case of misuse will not prevent that. that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:953847679] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>People fear mongering over this are pathetic and regressive. Driverless vehicles are still the future and one case of misuse will not prevent that.</quote>that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/12/21 11:39:05 PM #18:	monkmith posted... that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing. Exactly! Tesla even called it "Auto-Pilot" despite the fact that the vast majority of average folks don't even understand how "Auto-Pilot" works in aviation. It isn't what you think it is. There's far more monitoring required since Aviation "Auto-Pilot" only flies the plane to pre-programmed Way-Points in the sky. It doesn't actually do all that much for you, the Pilot still has to pay attention for any emergency events. It's not "KITT" from Knight Rider where it'll take care of everything. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953847725] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing.</quote>Exactly! Tesla even called it "Auto-Pilot" despite the fact that the vast majority of average folks don't even understand how "Auto-Pilot" works in aviation. It isn't what you think it is. There's far more monitoring required since Aviation "Auto-Pilot" only flies the plane to pre-programmed Way-Points in the sky. It doesn't actually do all that much for you, the Pilot still has to pay attention for any emergency events. It's not "KITT" from Knight Rider where it'll take care of everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 05/12/21 11:39:56 PM #19:	monkmith posted... that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing. Ive never bought a Tesla but Im sure the salesman you talk to gives you a safety rundown before selling it to you <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:953847748] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>that's a strawman argument. this is about the situation NOW, not future iterations. tesla, despite all their EULA bullshit that the vast majority dont read because they're literally designed to be skipped, have been marketing their current line of cars as self driving. that is dangerous deceptive marketing.</quote>Ive never bought a Tesla but Im sure the salesman you talk to gives you a safety rundown before selling it to you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 05/12/21 11:50:58 PM #20:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Ive never bought a Tesla but Im sure the salesman you talk to gives you a safety rundown before selling it to you Clearly not enough, because the guy in the article seems to genuinely believe that he's supposed to sit in the backseat. Even though, you have to trick the car's safety mechanisms to do so. I'm all for fully self driving cars in the future (it's gotta be safer than some jackass barreling down a street at double the speed limit), but the Tesla systems, as they are, still require someone in the driver seat. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:953848017] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Ive never bought a Tesla but Im sure the salesman you talk to gives you a safety rundown before selling it to you</quote>Clearly not enough, because the guy in the article seems to genuinely believe that he's supposed to sit in the backseat. Even though, you have to trick the car's safety mechanisms to do so. I'm all for fully self driving cars in the future (it's gotta be safer than some jackass barreling down a street at double the speed limit), but the Tesla systems, as they are, still require someone in the driver seat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 05/13/21 12:08:52 AM #21:	NoxObscuras posted... but the Tesla systems, as they are, still require someone in the driver seat. Not disagreeing there <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:953848441] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite> <quote>but the Tesla systems, as they are, still require someone in the driver seat.</quote>Not disagreeing there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 05/13/21 12:11:22 AM #22:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Exactly! Tesla even called it "Auto-Pilot" despite the fact that the vast majority of average folks don't even understand how "Auto-Pilot" works in aviation. It isn't what you think it is. There's far more monitoring required since Aviation "Auto-Pilot" only flies the plane to pre-programmed Way-Points in the sky. It doesn't actually do all that much for you, the Pilot still has to pay attention for any emergency events. It's not "KITT" from Knight Rider where it'll take care of everything. You do know you have to trick the vehicle into thinking you're still in the driver seat, right? These accidents are occuring with nobody in the driver seat, they're willfully misusing the vehicles. Being dumb and thinking it's designed to be operated the way despite having to rig it to do so doesn't change that. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:953848495] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>KamenRiderBlade posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly! Tesla even called it "Auto-Pilot" despite the fact that the vast majority of average folks don't even understand how "Auto-Pilot" works in aviation. It isn't what you think it is. There's far more monitoring required since Aviation "Auto-Pilot" only flies the plane to pre-programmed Way-Points in the sky. It doesn't actually do all that much for you, the Pilot still has to pay attention for any emergency events. It's not "KITT" from Knight Rider where it'll take care of everything.</quote> You do know you have to trick the vehicle into thinking you're still in the driver seat, right? These accidents are occuring with nobody in the driver seat, they're willfully misusing the vehicles. Being dumb and thinking it's designed to be operated the way despite having to rig it to do so doesn't change that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/13/21 12:28:57 AM #23:	codey posted... You do know you have to trick the vehicle into thinking you're still in the driver seat, right? These accidents are occuring with nobody in the driver seat, they're willfully misusing the vehicles. Being dumb and thinking it's designed to be operated the way despite having to rig it to do so doesn't change that. Here's the last idiot who was arrested in San Francisco and refuses to change his behavior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3FbQjHQvc Listen to the sanctimonious stupid words that come out of his arrogant little mouth. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953848873] in Another Ma... [t:79456251]...</cite> <quote>codey posted... </cite> <quote>You do know you have to trick the vehicle into thinking you're still in the driver seat, right? These accidents are occuring with nobody in the driver seat, they're willfully misusing the vehicles. Being dumb and thinking it's designed to be operated the way despite having to rig it to do so doesn't change that.</quote>Here's the last idiot who was arrested in San Francisco and refuses to change his behavior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3FbQjHQvc Listen to the sanctimonious stupid words that come out of his arrogant little mouth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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