Poll of the Day > I cannot fathom as to why people believe Meghan Markle's racist allegations.

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Criminalt
05/15/21 6:29:10 PM
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agesboy posted...
what part of "fuck america" makes you think i approve of colonization and genocide because ancestors of americans did it
Didn't say you did. But when Americans with no self-awareness talk about how evil British imperialism was, it's a bit like listening to people whose livelihood is trading in stolen goods say how much they hate thieves. The entire foundation stone on which the weight of four centuries of American history rests is British imperialism: it's the primary fucking reason that Americans even exist. If anyone's still benefiting today from a legacy of colonial exploitation, it's Americans as much as (if not more than) the Windsors.

Understand this: I'm not in the business of blaming today's Americans for their own country's past. But that's exactly the point: get this idea out of your heads that Liz, Phil or Charles are somehow to blame for everything that was done in the name of their ancestors two or three or four hundred years ago. Nobody's guilty of anything by fucking reincarnation. Let's stop wasting so much time and effort dumping the weight of dead people's sins on their great-great-great-great-great grandchildren, and instead try to fix the shit that we can actually do something about.


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agesboy
05/15/21 10:16:52 PM
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Criminalt posted...
But when Americans with no self-awareness talk about how evil British imperialism was, it's a bit like listening to people whose livelihood is trading in stolen goods say how much they hate thieves.
why are you bringing up ignorant americans right now? it's not relevant to the discussion between you and me. and most americans NEVER speak about the british. most americans are completely ignorant about everything outside of america, which is its own separate problem

the extent of american discourse about the british is "haha the monarchy is funny". thats literally it. we just treat the idea of a monarchy in 2021 as something quaint. i really dont know why you think it's a common topic of discussion. it's not.

Criminalt posted...
Understand this: I'm not in the business of blaming today's Americans for their own country's past. But that's exactly the point: get this idea out of your heads that Liz, Phil or Charles are somehow to blame for everything that was done in the name of their ancestors two or three or four hundred years ago.
nobody's saying they are to blame, but they should reallocate a portion of their wealth and success based on how much they profited from oppression. they're still going to be rich as shit and everyone's gonna love them anyways.

make an ATTEMPT to do right by history, instead of pretending it never was an issue. america did not suddenly become immune to criticism on the topic of native genocide and colonization because the specific people who committed atrocities died while their children lived on soil that wasn't theirs. the british should be held to the same standard.

responding to british criticism with american whataboutism is pointless. you can't simply ignore something because it happened 50+ years ago. it's similar to the israel-palestine situation right now. israel did not exist until around seventy years ago; conquering and squatting for a relatively short period of time does not put you in the right.

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ReturnOfFa
05/15/21 10:36:45 PM
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I see Piers Morgan himself is a poster on PotD!

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Gaawa_chan
05/16/21 1:10:32 AM
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A family that through the ages participated in incest in order to maintain imagined purity and consolidate international political power and historically was a huge proponent of imperialism and colonialism, racist? No waaaaaaaaaay... That's craaaaazy...

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ReturnOfFa
05/16/21 1:15:04 AM
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thedeerzord
05/16/21 1:27:38 AM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
A family that through the ages participated in incest in order to maintain imagined purity and consolidate international political power and historically was a huge proponent of imperialism and colonialism, racist? No waaaaaaaaaay... That's craaaaazy...
Youre referring to egypt

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ReturnOfFa
05/16/21 1:38:12 AM
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thedeerzord posted...
Youre referring to egypt
Would you like to compare the 'colonial empire of Egypt' to the colonial empire of Britain or France?

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KodyKeir
05/21/21 3:10:04 AM
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agesboy posted...
it's not like it's a stretch to think the british royal family is inherently kinda racist

As a descendant of Queen Vic, my family is racist as fuck. (I wanted to add a metric shit tonne of U's to emphasize how racist my family is, but GF thinks I'm trying to bypass the profanity filter) As much of a progressive leftist as I am, I still had thoughts about Archie's skintone.

zebatov posted...
I still cant believe people think God ordained anyone as royalty,


See, what happened is, this old ass virgin that says he talks to god, says god told him that my family gets to rule over all y'all for the rest of eternity, no take backs.

And for centuries y'all just said "seems legit" and accepted it as fact.

There are still some of you that think its a good idea to restore the monarchy; I won't complain too much if you do give me throne, but that is a hella dumb idea.

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agesboy
05/21/21 3:17:35 AM
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KodyKeir posted...
And for centuries y'all just said "seems legit" and accepted it as fact.
to be fair, anyone who objected too strongly probably just got their whole family branded as heretics and hung, and after a few dozen generations of drinking the koolaid you'd be the weird one if you tried to point it out

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KodyKeir
05/21/21 3:27:07 AM
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agesboy posted...
just got their whole family branded as heretics and hung


If they were lucky. Burning at the stake was quite popular.

Good ol' William the Conqueror (aka William the Bastard) just burned whole villages to the ground if they refused to accept him as King.

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