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pinky0926
05/07/21 11:44:00 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with English people, CE?

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coh
05/07/21 11:44:39 AM
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Good on them
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TwoDoorPC
05/07/21 11:45:17 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
What the fuck is wrong with English people, CE?

too much pride and fear of change

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pinky0926
05/07/21 11:47:07 AM
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TwoDoorPC posted...
too much pride and fear of change

Its like Stockholm syndrome

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Xavier_On_High
05/07/21 11:47:26 AM
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Trelve
05/07/21 11:53:09 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
What the fuck is wrong with English people, CE?
Labour.
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pinky0926
05/07/21 11:55:11 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Labour is a rotting husk.

Trelve posted...
Labour.

Yeah. Weakass party.

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Tryhaptaward
05/07/21 11:55:29 AM
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Trump's England
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Doom_Art
05/07/21 11:58:41 AM
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I'm utterly fascinated by the continued crumbling of the Labour Party over the last decade.

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pinky0926
05/07/21 11:58:52 AM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
Trump's England

We have the same problem as you do. Boris Johnson is fucking teflon. Nothing sticks to him. The closest anything came to sticking to him was...ugly expensive furniture costs.

Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn's career was completely decimated and no one can tell you precisely why or how, just that it had something to do with people in his party making anti-Semitic remarks.

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teep_
05/07/21 12:00:42 PM
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dantesdmc posted...
It's because there is increasing number of Muslims in UK especially of Pakistani descent

The current Mayor of London is of Pakistani descent and he's Labour

We're pretty split. If I still lived in the UK (and could vote) I'd die before voting the Tories in lol
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monkmith
05/07/21 12:00:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9rGX91rq5I

UK voting system is more broken then even the american electoral system. perfect example for why an unregulated multi party system with first past the post voting is bullshit.

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Xavier_On_High
05/07/21 12:03:38 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
We have the same problem as you do. Boris Johnson is fucking teflon. Nothing sticks to him. The closest anything came to sticking to him was...ugly expensive furniture costs.

Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn's career was completely decimated and no one can tell you precisely why or how, just that it had something to do with people in his party making anti-Semitic remarks.


It's not hard to figure out precisely why Corbyn failed. The billionaires who own the papers didn't like his constant threat that he would have them pay what they owe. He had massive popular support among the people, but his own party was too afraid to rally behind him.

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Squall28
05/07/21 12:04:07 PM
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What are conservatives in UK like?

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Broseph_Stalin
05/07/21 12:04:56 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
He had massive popular support among the people

lmao
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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:07:11 PM
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Squall28 posted...
What are conservatives in UK like?

Well they don't have guns or religion, instead there's a weird obsession with "the empire", the royal family, getting violently drunk., and uh, I dunno. General yobbish behaviour.

There's the same cuckitude though. Imagine working class people who's entire industries and counties have been decimated by privatisation and corporate wage theft but instead of blaming it on the old money they blame it on the polish and the muslims.

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Xavier_On_High
05/07/21 12:10:07 PM
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Squall28 posted...
What are conservatives in UK like?

Relatively centrist, really. Tony Blair's New Labour around the millennium dragged the whole political discourse closer to centre. The Conservatives are moving slightly further right recently, but there's a lot of resistance within to party to it.

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:10:36 PM
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Let me present the lyrics to IDLES The Village to explain:

A lot of nine fingered boys in the village
They haven't got much choice in the village
Model car, model wife, model village
Model far, model right, model village

They ain't too friendly in the village
There's a tabloid frenzy in the village
He's "not a racist but" in the village
Gotta drive half-cut in the village

Model low crime rate in the village
Model race, model hate, model village
Got my head kicked in in the village
There's a lot of pink skin in the village
"Hardest man in the world" in the village
He says he's got with every girl in the village

Take flight, take flight
Model village

I beg your pardon
I don't care about your rose garden
I've listened to the things you said
You just sound like you're scared to death

Still not in love with the village
Homophobes by the tonne in the village
A lot of overpriced drugs in the village
A lot of half pint thugs in the village
Model car, model wife, model village
Model far, model right, model village

I see a lot of gammon in the village
I don't see a lot happen in the village
Just give them an anthem and they'll sing it
Still they don't know the meanings in it
Just saluting flags 'cause it's British
Idiot spirits think they're kindred

Model low crime rate in the village
Model race, model hate, model village
It feels like the village is self-pillaged
Still someone's making a killing

Take flight, take flight
Take flight

Model village

I beg your pardon

I don't care about your rose garden
I've listened to the things you said
You just sound like you're scared to death

I beg your pardon
I don't care about your rose garden
I've listened to the things you said
You just sound like you're scared to death

You gotta laugh as the curtain twitches
And the villagers bury their riches
But the village doesn't know what rich is
Just snitches snitching on snitches
Only one thing to do in the village
Just say toodle-do to the village
Toodle-fucking-do

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IronWolf87
05/07/21 12:17:35 PM
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Anglo Saxons continue to disappoint.
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Funkydog
05/07/21 12:19:25 PM
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You see pinky

After a decade of tory cuts, removal of services, ignoring a pandemic until tens of thousands died, giving the NHS the middle finger, screwing over the working class and everyone they said Brexit would help and open corruption Labour have had their chance to fix it these past few years so it's time to give the good and honest Tories a chance!

PLUS! They gave France what's for recently and put the frogs in their place to protect the farmers Boris fucked over!

Also Corbyn handled the racists in his party in not the best way compared to Boris's open racism, ableism, ageism, disdain for the working class etc. So....

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KiwiTerraRizing
05/07/21 12:19:41 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Labour is a rotting husk.

People think the Democrats make bad decisions as a party but Labour is not going to be in power again in our lifetimes.

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Bio1590
05/07/21 12:20:17 PM
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dantesdmc posted...
It's because there is increasing number of Muslims in UK especially of Pakistani descent

lmao what

You realize 85% of Muslims in the UK voted for the Labour Party in 2017 right
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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:22:39 PM
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Funkydog posted...
You see pinky

After a decade of tory cuts, removal of services, ignoring a pandemic until tens of thousands died, giving the NHS the middle finger, screwing over the working class and everyone they said Brexit would help and open corruption Labour have had their chance to fix it these past few years so it's time to give the good and honest Tories a chance!

PLUS! They gave France what's for recently and put the frogs in their place to protect the farmers Boris fucked over!

The only catharsis I get out of any of this is watching farmers making shocked pikachu faces now that their kushy CAP subsidies have dried up and they actually can't compete anymore. But...but...you mean to tell me we had a good thing going there???

I mean by catharsis it's fun to see the mean tweets, but I'm fucking terrified of what the UK is going to look like in another 10 years.

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s0nicfan
05/07/21 12:24:19 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
We have the same problem as you do. Boris Johnson is fucking teflon. Nothing sticks to him. The closest anything came to sticking to him was...ugly expensive furniture costs.

Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn's career was completely decimated and no one can tell you precisely why or how, just that it had something to do with people in his party making anti-Semitic remarks.

Corbyn had to deal with so much anti-Semitism that there's an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to anti-Semitism in the labour party. The BBC has reported on it. People really need to stop pretending that labour doesn't have a significant issue with this. The whole momentum movement has killed the party because of it. High profile labour members have left, specifically citing issues like this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45030552
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/29/antisemitism-labour-party-echr-report


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Funkydog
05/07/21 12:25:32 PM
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pinky0926 posted...


I mean by catharsis it's fun to see the mean tweets, but I'm fucking terrified of what the UK is going to look like in another 10 years.
I'm just living in denial tbh as labour seem beyond incompetent and the populace seems to hate itself and actively want to destroy the country

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:26:14 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Corbyn had to deal with so much anti-Semitism that there's an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to anti-Semitism in the labour party. The BBC has reported on it. People really need to stop pretending that labour doesn't have a significant issue with this. The whole momentum movement has killed the party because of it. High profile labour members have left, specifically citing issues like this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45030552
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/29/antisemitism-labour-party-echr-report

The party certainly had/has a problem, but the noose went around his neck. And I'd find this all a lot easier to swallow if it wasn't for the fact that the conservative party don't seem to play by the same rules of accountability.

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:26:53 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I'm just living in denial tbh as labour seem beyond incompetent and the populace seems to hate itself and actively want to destroy the country

You're not asking the big questions here.

What are Megan and Harry going to do now??

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s0nicfan
05/07/21 12:28:30 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
You're not asking the big questions here.

What are Megan and Harry going to do now??

I'm guessing a morning show tour followed by another visit to Oprah so they can once again tell mass media that they would like mass media to leave them alone.

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Chillwave
05/07/21 12:28:45 PM
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Don't you guys pay to have a license for TV?

Who voted for that?
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CyricZ
05/07/21 12:29:13 PM
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I'm going with "pudding".

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:29:21 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I'm guessing a morning show tour followed by another visit to Oprah so they can once again tell mass media that they would like mass media to leave them alone.

Ok good, but I won't be satisfied unless I get hourly BBC update notifications direct to my phone

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:30:10 PM
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Chillwave posted...
Don't you guys pay to have a license for TV?

Who voted for that?

Oh man if you thought this was gonna be a gotcha you picked the wrong crowd, I could wax lyrical for fucking years about how much I loath tv licensing


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ThyCorndog
05/07/21 12:31:42 PM
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britain seems as bad as america in a lot of ways

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monkmith
05/07/21 12:32:23 PM
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Chillwave posted...
Don't you guys pay to have a license for TV?

Who voted for that?
depending on where you live, maybe 20% of voters in the area voted for the politician who supported that.

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What_
05/07/21 12:33:20 PM
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Baby trump won?
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Chillwave
05/07/21 12:33:45 PM
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monkmith posted...
depending on where you live, maybe 20% of voters in the area voted for the politician who supported that.

So which party enforced it?

And why are people there constantly ok with paying taxes?
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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:36:06 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
britain seems as bad as america in a lot of ways

Worse in some, better in others.

On one hand, our conservatives are closer to your democrats than your conservatives, in terms of social progressive issues. So tories here are still pretty ok with abortion and stuff like that, but they just want to shaft you financially for it

We don't have guns, which is nice, but we do have acid attacks.

We get healthcare, which is super nice, but the tories are doing their best to systematically dismantle it.

We don't have religious problems so much here. But on the other hand, did you know that if someone earns like $50k a year outside london they're considered basically middle class? el oh el

We have nice pubs. The problem is, we only have pubs.

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Trelve
05/07/21 12:37:34 PM
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The far left of Labour have a hate-boner for Tony Blair despite him winning three general elections for them in a row.

Labour need someone as charismatic as him again and to win back the working class vote.
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Bio1590
05/07/21 12:39:56 PM
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US politics and media have far too much influence on the rest of the world honestly
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CyricZ
05/07/21 12:40:54 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
we only have pubs.
Pubs. Pubs for miles... kilometers.

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Trelve
05/07/21 12:41:07 PM
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dantesdmc posted...
I don't know much about UK politics. Is Labour party right wingers?
Labour is centre left.
Lib Dems are centre left (but identify more with Conservatives than Labour)
Green Party are left wing.

The only right of centre party are the Conservatives. You can see how easy it is to split the left leaning vote. Right wingers only have to vote for Conservative. UKIP used to be a thing but they imploded when Farage left.
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UnfairRepresent
05/07/21 12:41:22 PM
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I like how the ususal suspects who talked shit to me when I called this and explained the every day issues and casual bigotry in England all completely ignore this topic.

you could see it coming a mile away but it still fucking sucks

Squall28 posted...
What are conservatives in UK like?

Crazy, loud, rude, anti-science, anti-gay, bigoted, isolationists who turn a blind eye to the constant corruption and scandals of their own party and their only issue is that it is not right wing enough.

I hear it evey fucking day from co workers and in the streets

It's way worse than conservatives in the US. The majority of the party which is the majority of the voters are like a smarter Queensland or Alabama.

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pinky0926
05/07/21 12:43:12 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
US politics and media have far too much influence on the rest of the world honestly

Truth. I was so sick of hearing about Trump in the office everyday.

(he says ironically, knowing he was obsessed with it on CE)

CyricZ posted...
Pubs. Pubs for miles... kilometers.

My hometown has a population of maybe 1500 people (most of them elderly) with a single high street, and there's like 6 pubs. It's absurd.

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Doom_Art
05/07/21 12:49:15 PM
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Trelve posted...
Labour is centre left.
Lib Dems are centre left (but identify more with Conservatives than Labour)
Green Party are left wing.

The only right of centre party are the Conservatives. You can see how easy it is to split the left leaning vote. Right wingers only have to vote for Conservative. UKIP used to be a thing but they imploded when Farage left.
Same thing happened in Canada in the early/mid 90s.

The Progressive Conservatives completely fractured and at one point there were like 3 right wing parties splitting the vote.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/21 12:59:52 PM
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dantesdmc posted...
I guess my point stands. Seems like my post was misunderstood. Conservatives won because Brits are having problems with the immigrants.
They're not though, that's the thing.

They're having problems (that consevatives cause) and just blaming immigrants and anyone with different skin color.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/21 1:02:40 PM
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dantesdmc posted...
divide and rule
True

And it's even worse in the UK than the US.

In the US Republicans always always get less votes. most of the population is against them. They win due to crooked election systems.

In the UK, right wing idealogy is the majority. They win due to getting the most votes and widespread majority support.

That's the big difference and it's terrifying.

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