Current Events > Trans weightlifter Laurel Hubbard set to make history at Tokyo Olympics

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legendary_zell 05/06/21 3:59:17 PM #52:	People don't care about any other type of unfairness when it comes to women's sports, this is the only thing they pay attention to. Because they know it's a soft spot and lets them express transphobia without giving away the game like if they wanted to deny a trans person education, employment, or housing. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:953628623] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>People don't care about any other type of unfairness when it comes to women's sports, this is the only thing they pay attention to. Because they know it's a soft spot and lets them express transphobia without giving away the game like if they wanted to deny a trans person education, employment, or housing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:02:24 PM #53:	legendary_zell posted... People don't care about any other type of unfairness when it comes to women's sports, this is the only thing they pay attention to. Because they know it's a soft spot and lets them express transphobia without giving away the game like if they wanted to deny a trans person education, employment, or housing. Wow --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953628710] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>People don't care about any other type of unfairness when it comes to women's sports, this is the only thing they pay attention to. Because they know it's a soft spot and lets them express transphobia without giving away the game like if they wanted to deny a trans person education, employment, or housing.</quote>Wow </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/06/21 4:02:30 PM #54:	The IOC has specific rules on trans women competing. I don't have the receipts, but I'm going to assume Ms. Hubbard passes those conditions if she has been accepted. So here's what's going to happen: She wins the gold. People say "I told you so. This proves everything". She doesn't win the gold. People immediately forget about the loss or even forget she existed and as soon as another trans woman has the gall to be an Olympic athlete, we start this all over again. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:953628714] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>The IOC has specific rules on trans women competing. I don't have the receipts, but I'm going to assume Ms. Hubbard passes those conditions if she has been accepted. So here's what's going to happen: She wins the gold. People say "I told you so. This proves everything".She doesn't win the gold. People immediately forget about the loss or even forget she existed and as soon as another trans woman has the gall to be an Olympic athlete, we start this all over again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 05/06/21 4:06:37 PM #55:	Smackems posted... Wow its that kinda stuff that makes me hesistant to even ask questions to better understand the positions here. --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:953628848] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Wow</quote> its that kinda stuff that makes me hesistant to even ask questions to better understand the positions here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 05/06/21 4:07:03 PM #56:	Giant_Aspirin posted... how do you address the utter unfairness of a woman who transitioned at age 35 giving her 35 years of testosterone beefing up her body structure and muscles competing against cis women who have never had a drop enter their bodies? that's the point EndOfDiscOne failed to address in any capacity. and it's a point i've never seen a satisfactory answer to. i really try to be accepting of everyone but the idea of this trans woman competing against cis women just seems so unfair and i feel like its bullshit that i'm labeled a "transphobe" for asking this. edit: not saying you were calling me a "transphobe" here, but i do feel like i'm guaranteed to be jumped on by at least a few people here for asking this question Cis women have testosterone, genius. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:953628864] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>how do you address the utter unfairness of a woman who transitioned at age 35 giving her 35 years of testosterone beefing up her body structure and muscles competing against cis women who have never had a drop enter their bodies? that's the point EndOfDiscOne failed to address in any capacity. and it's a point i've never seen a satisfactory answer to. i really try to be accepting of everyone but the idea of this trans woman competing against cis women just seems so unfair and i feel like its bullshit that i'm labeled a "transphobe" for asking this. edit: not saying you were calling me a "transphobe" here, but i do feel like i'm guaranteed to be jumped on by at least a few people here for asking this question</quote>Cis women have testosterone, genius. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The-19th-Sparta 05/06/21 4:09:54 PM #57:	Joel95 posted... Cis women have testosterone, genius. Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback. --- Remembering the EPICNESS one GameFAQs post at a time. <cite>The-19th-Sparta posted [p:953628950] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Cis women have testosterone, genius.</quote> Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/06/21 4:11:24 PM #58:	The-19th-Sparta posted... Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback. Bold from the person who opened the topic with a childish insult. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:953628990] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>The-19th-Sparta posted... </cite> <quote>Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback.</quote>Bold from the person who opened the topic with a childish insult. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:12:16 PM #59:	Giant_Aspirin posted... its that kinda stuff that makes me hesistant to even ask questions to better understand the positions here. The classic They said something i no like! Quick! Break out every bigot-ism on them! Its a weird silencing tactic --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629026] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>its that kinda stuff that makes me hesistant to even ask questions to better understand the positions here.</quote>The classic They said something i no like! Quick! Break out every bigot-ism on them! Its a weird silencing tactic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 05/06/21 4:13:05 PM #60:	Smackems posted... Wow I see this all the time. I'm a civil rights lawyer, I represent people in vulnerable groups, including trans people. Right now, there's a big push going on among transphobes to stop progress and decreasing stigmatization of trans people. It comes through attempt to segregate them (bathroom bills, healthcare and sports bans) and to legalize outright discrimination against them based on religion (trying to get religious exemptions from all civil rights laws). These areas are chosen because they are soft spots where people will tolerate discrimination. We've reached the point where people can't openly advocate for violence or shoving people back in the closet, but you can still discriminate to protect the women and the children or God. That way people can discriminate without recognizing that they're trash because they can tell themselves it's actually about the children or fairness or religious liberty, --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:953629050] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Wow</quote> I see this all the time. I'm a civil rights lawyer, I represent people in vulnerable groups, including trans people. Right now, there's a big push going on among transphobes to stop progress and decreasing stigmatization of trans people. It comes through attempt to segregate them (bathroom bills, healthcare and sports bans) and to legalize outright discrimination against them based on religion (trying to get religious exemptions from all civil rights laws). These areas are chosen because they are soft spots where people will tolerate discrimination. We've reached the point where people can't openly advocate for violence or shoving people back in the closet, but you can still discriminate to protect the women and the children or God. That way people can discriminate without recognizing that they're trash because they can tell themselves it's actually about the children or fairness or religious liberty, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 05/06/21 4:15:09 PM #61:	The-19th-Sparta posted... Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback. Unnecessary? He said that cis women have no testosterone. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:953629123] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>The-19th-Sparta posted... </cite> <quote>Look at the Google expert over here with his single, unnecessary comeback.</quote>Unnecessary? He said that cis women have no testosterone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:15:25 PM #62:	legendary_zell posted... I see this all the time. I'm a civil rights lawyer, I represent people in vulnerable groups, including trans people. Right now, there's a big push going on among transphobes to stop progress and decreasing stigmatization of trans people. It comes through attempt to segregate them (bathroom bills, healthcare and sports bans) and to legalize outright discrimination against them based on religion (trying to get religious exemptions from all civil rights laws). These areas are chosen because they are soft spots where people will tolerate discrimination. We've reached the point where people can't openly advocate for violence or shoving people back in the closet, but you can still discriminate to protect the women and the children or God. That way people can discriminate without recognizing that they're trash because they can tell themselves it's actually about the children or fairness or religious liberty, Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629133] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>I see this all the time. I'm a civil rights lawyer, I represent people in vulnerable groups, including trans people. Right now, there's a big push going on among transphobes to stop progress and decreasing stigmatization of trans people. It comes through attempt to segregate them (bathroom bills, healthcare and sports bans) and to legalize outright discrimination against them based on religion (trying to get religious exemptions from all civil rights laws). These areas are chosen because they are soft spots where people will tolerate discrimination. We've reached the point where people can't openly advocate for violence or shoving people back in the closet, but you can still discriminate to protect the women and the children or God. That way people can discriminate without recognizing that they're trash because they can tell themselves it's actually about the children or fairness or religious liberty,</quote>Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 05/06/21 4:15:52 PM #63:	Jagr_68 posted... Oh lord it's that South Park episode literally come to life --- NFLB 2021 Summersim Roster (8-8 / #7 seed / NFCCG Participant): https://imgur.com/iSlti18 Me courtesy of BlueMage279: https://imgur.com/gWKaLHC <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:953629150] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh lord it's that South Park episode literally come to life</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 05/06/21 4:16:20 PM #64:	I can't believe so many people are against women's sports becoming entertaining. --- https://imgur.com/ca2qBa1 ^My wife <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:953629164] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>I can't believe so many people are against women's sports becoming entertaining. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/06/21 4:17:48 PM #65:	Smackems posted... Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that Yeah things you see in real life have NO bearing online! --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:953629215] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that</quote>Yeah things you see in real life have NO bearing online! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:20:22 PM #66:	CyricZ posted... Yeah things you see in real life have NO bearing online! Another taken to extreme Keep going --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629310] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah things you see in real life have NO bearing online!</quote>Another taken to extreme Keep going </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 05/06/21 4:20:42 PM #67:	Joel95 posted... Unnecessary? He said that cis women have no testosterone. i apologize for the ignorance about that. but, really, how does that affect anything in the point i made there? just replace "no" with "very small amounts" and the point is the same. trans women were exposed to significant levels of testosterone during puberty which has a significant affect on body development. edit: for clarification, i honestly don't know how i feel about this. i understand both sides of the argument. i get how fucked up it is to tell a transperson they can't compete due to who they are. i also get how cis women feel like its unfair to compete against someone with what they perceive to be an innate physical advantage. --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:953629317] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Unnecessary? He said that cis women have no testosterone.</quote> i apologize for the ignorance about that. but, really, how does that affect anything in the point i made there? just replace "no" with "very small amounts" and the point is the same. trans women were exposed to significant levels of testosterone during puberty which has a significant affect on body development. edit: for clarification, i honestly don't know how i feel about this. i understand both sides of the argument. i get how fucked up it is to tell a transperson they can't compete due to who they are. i also get how cis women feel like its unfair to compete against someone with what they perceive to be an innate physical advantage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 05/06/21 4:22:53 PM #69:	Dathrowed1 posted... I understand what you are trying to say, but masculinization of the human body will make one top tier compared to females My point is that you can correct for male/female performance statistically to show how youd expect a person to perform (hypothetically) after transitioning if all male performance was removed. E.g. if someone was a top 30% athlete as a male, then if after transitioning no advantage exists then they would then be a top 30% female. The issue becomes if that athlete jumps like 20% in tier after transitioning to top 10% tier, in their 40s, with a similar regimen.... --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:953629384] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>I understand what you are trying to say, but masculinization of the human body will make one top tier compared to females</quote> My point is that you can correct for male/female performance statistically to show how youd expect a person to perform (hypothetically) after transitioning if all male performance was removed. E.g. if someone was a top 30% athlete as a male, then if after transitioning no advantage exists then they would then be a top 30% female. The issue becomes if that athlete jumps like 20% in tier after transitioning to top 10% tier, in their 40s, with a similar regimen.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Temporal 05/06/21 4:23:16 PM #70:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not reading this shitshow, are people crying because a woman is competing with women? the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes --- are you even real? <cite>Temporal posted [p:953629397] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Im not reading this shitshow, are people crying because a woman is competing with women?</quote> the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/06/21 4:24:17 PM #71:	Smackems posted... Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that He's just describing things that are happening in public for all to see: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/anti-transgender-legislation-2021/index.html --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:953629430] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Things you've seen at your job=/= every opinion. Hard to take someone serious when they say shit like that</quote>He's just describing things that are happening in public for all to see: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/anti-transgender-legislation-2021/index.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 05/06/21 4:25:05 PM #72:	Temporal posted... the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes Physical cues aren't a good yardstick though. We need to have better conversations than "looks masculine/feminine" --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:953629463] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Temporal posted... </cite> <quote>the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes</quote> Physical cues aren't a good yardstick though. We need to have better conversations than "looks masculine/feminine" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:26:20 PM #73:	Antifar posted... He's just describing things that are happening in public for all to see: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/anti-transgender-legislation-2021/index.html What he did was take things to an extreme --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629503] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>He's just describing things that are happening in public for all to see: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/anti-transgender-legislation-2021/index.html</quote>What he did was take things to an extreme </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:26:59 PM #74:	Temporal posted... the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes Dude they can't help what they look like. It's not about that anyway --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629529] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Temporal posted... </cite> <quote>the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy how are certain progressives this fucking obtuse sometimes</quote>Dude they can't help what they look like. It's not about that anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/06/21 4:27:12 PM #75:	Smackems posted... What he did was take things to an extreme He's right, but you know that already. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:953629540] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>What he did was take things to an extreme</quote>He's right, but you know that already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:28:56 PM #76:	Antifar posted... He's right, but you know that already. Sometimes he's right I'm sure, but not everyone with questions about this sort of thing or different opinions wants them to be discriminated to the point of not being employable or some shit. That is taking it to the extreme --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629592] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>He's right, but you know that already.</quote>Sometimes he's right I'm sure, but not everyone with questions about this sort of thing or different opinions wants them to be discriminated to the point of not being employable or some shit. That is taking it to the extreme </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 05/06/21 4:30:28 PM #78:	Temporal posted... the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy It's powerlifting, not a beauty pageant --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:953629650] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Temporal posted... </cite> <quote>the pic in the article definitely screams woman, my guy</quote>It's powerlifting, not a beauty pageant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/06/21 4:31:04 PM #79:	People who want to assure us that they do actually support trans people should be focusing on ways that trans women can "fairly" compete with cis women. Not just saying "no". --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:953629672] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>People who want to assure us that they do actually support trans people should be focusing on ways that trans women can "fairly" compete with cis women. Not just saying "no". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:31:30 PM #80:	Intro2Logic posted... It's powerlifting, not a beauty pageant If they're not in full makeup and beautified in a sweaty sport about picking up heavy shit then how are we supposed to know they're a woman --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629684] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>It's powerlifting, not a beauty pageant</quote>If they're not in full makeup and beautified in a sweaty sport about picking up heavy shit then how are we supposed to know they're a woman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 05/06/21 4:34:50 PM #81:	CyricZ posted... People who want to assure us that they do actually support trans people should be focusing on ways that trans women can "fairly" compete with cis women. Not just saying "no". i think the guidelines set forth by the IoC regarding testosterone levels being at or below a threshold for at least 12 months makes a lot of sense. but that fails to address the issue about science identifying long lasting strenght and power found in individuals exposed to high levels of testosterone during puberty. i honestly dont have any idea how to address that "fairly" for everyone involved, but i'm all ears for suggestions. edit: updated wording so the pedant police doesn't get me --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:953629800] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>People who want to assure us that they do actually support trans people should be focusing on ways that trans women can "fairly" compete with cis women. Not just saying "no".</quote> i think the guidelines set forth by the IoC regarding testosterone levels being at or below a threshold for at least 12 months makes a lot of sense. but that fails to address the issue about science identifying long lasting strenght and power found in individuals exposed to high levels of testosterone during puberty. i honestly dont have any idea how to address that "fairly" for everyone involved, but i'm all ears for suggestions. edit: updated wording so the pedant police doesn't get me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 05/06/21 4:36:24 PM #82:	Smackems posted... Sometimes he's right I'm sure, but not everyone with questions about this sort of thing or different opinions wants them to be discriminated to the point of not being employable or some shit. That is taking it to the extreme What questions do you have? Those can be answered if they're asked respectfully and not as a pretext for trolling. But you have to understand why people who only pop in and loudly proclaim that they have "questions" about the issue of someone's rights are distrusted. Because it's a standard trolling tactic. And yes, people will get mad at you when you "disagree" about whether they have rights and can equally participate in public life. How would you feel if I disagreed with you on whether all people named Smackems should be sent to Gitmo immediately? I have the right to have that opinion and yet Smackems seem to get bent out of shape when I simply express my opinion about their continued liberty. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:953629865] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Sometimes he's right I'm sure, but not everyone with questions about this sort of thing or different opinions wants them to be discriminated to the point of not being employable or some shit. That is taking it to the extreme</quote> What questions do you have? Those can be answered if they're asked respectfully and not as a pretext for trolling. But you have to understand why people who only pop in and loudly proclaim that they have "questions" about the issue of someone's rights are distrusted. Because it's a standard trolling tactic. And yes, people will get mad at you when you "disagree" about whether they have rights and can equally participate in public life. How would you feel if I disagreed with you on whether all people named Smackems should be sent to Gitmo immediately? I have the right to have that opinion and yet Smackems seem to get bent out of shape when I simply express my opinion about their continued liberty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:39:06 PM #83:	legendary_zell posted... What questions do you have? Those can be answered if they're asked respectfully and not as a pretext for trolling. But you have to understand why people who only pop in and loudly proclaim that they have "questions" about the issue of someone's rights are distrusted. Because it's a standard trolling tactic. And yes, people will get mad at you when you "disagree" about whether they have rights and can equally participate in public life. How would you feel if I disagreed with you on whether all people named Smackems should be sent to Gitmo immediately? I have the right to have that opinion and yet Smackems seem to get bent out of shape when I simply express my opinion about their continued liberty. It's a discussion about sporting events, not basic human rights I agree that a lot of it here is trolling, but not all of it And also I don't actually have a dog in this race. I'm just here for the drama --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953629970] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>What questions do you have? Those can be answered if they're asked respectfully and not as a pretext for trolling. But you have to understand why people who only pop in and loudly proclaim that they have "questions" about the issue of someone's rights are distrusted. Because it's a standard trolling tactic. And yes, people will get mad at you when you "disagree" about whether they have rights and can equally participate in public life. How would you feel if I disagreed with you on whether all people named Smackems should be sent to Gitmo immediately? I have the right to have that opinion and yet Smackems seem to get bent out of shape when I simply express my opinion about their continued liberty.</quote>It's a discussion about sporting events, not basic human rights I agree that a lot of it here is trolling, but not all of it And also I don't actually have a dog in this race. I'm just here for the drama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 05/06/21 4:41:43 PM #84:	So if she doesn't get gold conservatives are going to stfu about this forever right? ...right??? --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:953630070] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>So if she doesn't get gold conservatives are going to stfu about this forever right? ...right??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 05/06/21 4:44:35 PM #86:	shockthemonkey posted... Its a discussion about rights and no amount of Im just here to troll, j/k wink for the drama will change that --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953630166] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Its a discussion about rights and no amount of Im just here to troll, j/k wink for the drama will change that</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 05/06/21 4:46:30 PM #87:	Smackems posted... It's a discussion about sporting events, not basic human rights I agree that a lot of it here is trolling, but not all of it And also I don't actually have a dog in this race. I'm just here for the drama Equal participation in sports doesn't implicate rights? Even if the legislature bans people from participating? Title IX and Jackie Robinson would beg to differ. I don't think even you believe what you're saying here. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:953630231] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>It's a discussion about sporting events, not basic human rights I agree that a lot of it here is trolling, but not all of it And also I don't actually have a dog in this race. I'm just here for the drama</quote> Equal participation in sports doesn't implicate rights? Even if the legislature bans people from participating? Title IX and Jackie Robinson would beg to differ. I don't think even you believe what you're saying here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solution_45 05/06/21 4:47:33 PM #88:	Temporal posted... clownworld <cite>Solution_45 posted [p:953630269] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Temporal posted... </cite> <quote>clownworld</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/06/21 4:49:53 PM #89:	justaguy3492 posted... So if she doesn't get gold conservatives are going to stfu about this forever right? ...right??? I mean, she is 43 years old competing against mostly 20 somethings which is probably why she hasn't won every single event since transitioning at 35. She has won most though. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 7-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:953630356] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>So if she doesn't get gold conservatives are going to stfu about this forever right? ...right??? </quote> I mean, she is 43 years old competing against mostly 20 somethings which is probably why she hasn't won every single event since transitioning at 35. She has won most though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:50:29 PM #90:	legendary_zell posted... Equal participation in sports doesn't implicate rights? Even if the legislature bans people from participating? Title IX and Jackie Robinson would beg to differ. I don't think even you believe what you're saying here. "Basic" rights Like not being sent to prison for being trans --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953630376] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>Equal participation in sports doesn't implicate rights? Even if the legislature bans people from participating? Title IX and Jackie Robinson would beg to differ. I don't think even you believe what you're saying here.</quote>"Basic" rights Like not being sent to prison for being trans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 05/06/21 4:52:15 PM #91:	Just make everyone compete with everyone. If it's unfair for some people to compete against much stronger people, introduce some tiers based on past performance/qualification event. Sort of like weight class in boxing. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:953630429] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Just make everyone compete with everyone. If it's unfair for some people to compete against much stronger people, introduce some tiers based on past performance/qualification event. Sort of like weight class in boxing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayyysop 05/06/21 4:53:38 PM #92:	Zell why are you entertaining smackems' posts even a little Like, he's clearly the majority opinion here. Basic rights for trans people are just not getting thrown in prison for existing You're jumping to extremes if you contend with that, apparently. Oh also he'll roll his eyes at you for eloquently and patiently stating your case Just why? I don't get what ppl get out of being that way <cite>Ayyysop posted [p:953630470] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Zell why are you entertaining smackems' posts even a little Like, he's clearly the majority opinion here. Basic rights for trans people are just not getting thrown in prison for existing You're jumping to extremes if you contend with that, apparently. Oh also he'll roll his eyes at you for eloquently and patiently stating your case Just why? I don't get what ppl get out of being that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 05/06/21 4:55:27 PM #93:	I dont even understand whats pc or offensive anymore i just say ok. Ok. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:953630530] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>I dont even understand whats pc or offensive anymore i just say ok. Ok. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/06/21 4:57:37 PM #94:	Ayyysop posted... Zell why are you entertaining smackems' posts even a little Like, he's clearly the majority opinion here. Basic rights for trans people are just not getting thrown in prison for existing You're jumping to extremes if you contend with that, apparently. Oh also he'll roll his eyes at you for eloquently and patiently stating your case Just why? I don't get what ppl get out of being that way Yet another extreme here Is that all y'all got --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:953630603] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Ayyysop posted... </cite> <quote>Zell why are you entertaining smackems' posts even a little Like, he's clearly the majority opinion here. Basic rights for trans people are just not getting thrown in prison for existing You're jumping to extremes if you contend with that, apparently. Oh also he'll roll his eyes at you for eloquently and patiently stating your case Just why? I don't get what ppl get out of being that way</quote>Yet another extreme here Is that all y'all got </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LookANinja 05/06/21 4:57:50 PM #95:	WholeLife2 posted... Omg guys/gals?, can it with the transphobia! Btw i dont give a FUCK about womens sports lmao You can't say that. That's transphobic. --- http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/56/picturesig.jpg https://imgur.com/b8HCz <cite>LookANinja posted [p:953630609] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>WholeLife2 posted... </cite> <quote>Omg guys/gals?, can it with the transphobia! Btw i dont give a FUCK about womens sports lmao</quote>You can't say that. That's transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 05/06/21 4:59:04 PM #96:	CyricZ posted... The IOC has specific rules on trans women competing. I don't have the receipts, but I'm going to assume Ms. Hubbard passes those conditions if she has been accepted. So here's what's going to happen: 1. She wins the gold. People say "I told you so. This proves everything". 2. She doesn't win the gold. People immediately forget about the loss or even forget she existed and as soon as another trans woman has the gall to be an Olympic athlete, we start this all over again. The opposite also will happen with you, Cyric, I assume. She loses, you'll cite this in everything. She wins, you will just say it was just a one time occurrence? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:953630653] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>The IOC has specific rules on trans women competing. I don't have the receipts, but I'm going to assume Ms. Hubbard passes those conditions if she has been accepted. So here's what's going to happen: 1. She wins the gold. People say "I told you so. This proves everything". 2. She doesn't win the gold. People immediately forget about the loss or even forget she existed and as soon as another trans woman has the gall to be an Olympic athlete, we start this all over again. </quote> The opposite also will happen with you, Cyric, I assume. She loses, you'll cite this in everything. She wins, you will just say it was just a one time occurrence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 05/06/21 4:59:37 PM #98:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not reading this shitshow, are people crying because a woman is competing with women? No, read the topic title --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:953630677] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Im not reading this shitshow, are people crying because a woman is competing with women?</quote>No, read the topic title </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 05/06/21 5:00:27 PM #99:	voldothegr8 posted... I mean, she is 43 years old competing against mostly 20 somethings which is probably why she hasn't won every single event since transitioning at 35. She has won most though. Her competition is probably on juice which her presence will also encourage --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:953630710] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, she is 43 years old competing against mostly 20 somethings which is probably why she hasn't won every single event since transitioning at 35. She has won most though.</quote>Her competition is probably on juice which her presence will also encourage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/06/21 5:00:28 PM #100:	Slayer_22 posted... She loses, you'll cite this in everything. It will literally be one more of the dozens of times that trans women have lost in high-level sports competitions. There's no "No, you" in this. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:953630712] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>She loses, you'll cite this in everything.</quote>It will literally be one more of the dozens of times that trans women have lost in high-level sports competitions. There's no "No, you" in this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 05/06/21 5:00:47 PM #101:	Good for her. --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:953630723] in Trans weig... [t:79444683]...</cite> <quote>Good for her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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