Current Events > The power scaling in Invincible doesn't make sense (spoilers)

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SwiggitySwoogit 05/01/21 3:27:19 PM #1:	Omni Man beat Guardians of the Globe with taking out most members in a hit or two, but sustained serious damage. Invincible punched Omni Man and it did no damage and it took a ton of punches for Omni Man to almost kill Invincible. How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians? <cite>SwiggitySwoogit posted [p:953444704] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Omni Man beat Guardians of the Globe with taking out most members in a hit or two, but sustained serious damage. Invincible punched Omni Man and it did no damage and it took a ton of punches for Omni Man to almost kill Invincible. How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 05/01/21 3:32:01 PM #2:	SwiggitySwoogit posted... How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians? The Guardians were stronger than you might think. At least the ones who did real damage. Omni-Man was also drastically outnumbered and took a ton of hits from combo attacks and whatnot. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:953444824] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>SwiggitySwoogit posted... </cite> <quote>How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians?</quote>The Guardians were stronger than you might think. At least the ones who did real damage. Omni-Man was also drastically outnumbered and took a ton of hits from combo attacks and whatnot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwiggitySwoogit 05/01/21 3:34:37 PM #3:	It seems to me Mark's power is inconsistent and usually (not always) written to be somewher near his adversary yet some of his adversaries are rather weak and some are very strong. <cite>SwiggitySwoogit posted [p:953444895] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>It seems to me Mark's power is inconsistent and usually (not always) written to be somewher near his adversary yet some of his adversaries are rather weak and some are very strong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 05/01/21 11:02:29 PM #4:	SwiggitySwoogit posted... It seems to me Mark's power is inconsistent and usually (not always) written to be somewher near his adversary yet some of his adversaries are rather weak and some are very strong. That's not inaccurate. His power is still growing, as far as inconsistent levels I chalk that up to adrenaline/anger. Omni Man wasn't trying to kill Mark either, maybe at the very end, but up until he buried him in the mountain he was trying to beat him into submission and use him to kill civilians and make his point --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:953457840] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>SwiggitySwoogit posted... </cite> <quote>It seems to me Mark's power is inconsistent and usually (not always) written to be somewher near his adversary yet some of his adversaries are rather weak and some are very strong.</quote> That's not inaccurate. His power is still growing, as far as inconsistent levels I chalk that up to adrenaline/anger. Omni Man wasn't trying to kill Mark either, maybe at the very end, but up until he buried him in the mountain he was trying to beat him into submission and use him to kill civilians and make his point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balnazarr 05/02/21 4:21:57 PM #5:	Ummm, the Guardians didn't do much at all. Most of them died in seconds. Only War Woman, Red Scare and Immortal did anything. <cite>Balnazarr posted [p:953479654] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Ummm, the Guardians didn't do much at all. Most of them died in seconds. Only War Woman, Red Scare and Immortal did anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 05/02/21 4:23:16 PM #6:	Hey now water guy got him super wet --- The web of destiny carries your blood and soul back to the Genesis of my life form. I never be, I never see, I never know <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:953479700] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Hey now water guy got him super wet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 05/02/21 4:27:16 PM #7:	Mark's durability is all over the map too. He got pretty beat up by those robots but he was still alive from that mountain cracking punch? The cat guy should've knocked him through all of the lower levels of that building easily too if that's what it takes to badly injure him. --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:953479815] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Mark's durability is all over the map too. He got pretty beat up by those robots but he was still alive from that mountain cracking punch? The cat guy should've knocked him through all of the lower levels of that building easily too if that's what it takes to badly injure him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/02/21 4:35:55 PM #8:	SwiggitySwoogit posted... Omni Man beat Guardians of the Globe with taking out most members in a hit or two, but sustained serious damage. Invincible punched Omni Man and it did no damage and it took a ton of punches for Omni Man to almost kill Invincible. How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians? Ignoring any other attempt at an explanation, Omni-Man is massively more powerful than the Guardians combined and in the comic they did nothing to him at all, he is faster and stronger than all combined by far and I have no idea why one of the changes was to have them beat him up and him play hurt for so long. Maybe the writers just thought it made more sense given his angle of being the sole survivor of the meeting. As for Mark, he is more durable than everyone on earth at this point besides his father. You'll see, damage that you certainly think will kill him does not. As for why he couldn't hurt Nolan, that's just how it should go. Mark is not full Viltrumite and the comic at least spells it out plainly that he is not on par with an adult Viltrumite at this time. ~~He even gets easily overpowered and raped by a female Viltrumite and can only cry about it.~~ Although even if Nolan let the guardians wail on him he should not have really been hurt. That's just something that happens in the show, no idea why this was done as it creates issues with cannon/continuity. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953480079] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>SwiggitySwoogit posted... </cite> <quote>Omni Man beat Guardians of the Globe with taking out most members in a hit or two, but sustained serious damage. Invincible punched Omni Man and it did no damage and it took a ton of punches for Omni Man to almost kill Invincible. How is it Mark inflicted almost no damage when he should be able to more than hold his own against the Guardians?</quote> Ignoring any other attempt at an explanation, Omni-Man is massively more powerful than the Guardians combined and in the comic they did nothing to him at all, he is faster and stronger than all combined by far and I have no idea why one of the changes was to have them beat him up and him play hurt for so long. Maybe the writers just thought it made more sense given his angle of being the sole survivor of the meeting. As for Mark, he is more durable than everyone on earth at this point besides his father. You'll see, damage that you certainly think will kill him does not. As for why he couldn't hurt Nolan, that's just how it should go. Mark is not full Viltrumite and the comic at least spells it out plainly that he is not on par with an adult Viltrumite at this time. He even gets easily overpowered and raped by a female Viltrumite and can only cry about it. Although even if Nolan let the guardians wail on him he should not have really been hurt. That's just something that happens in the show, no idea why this was done as it creates issues with cannon/continuity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/02/21 4:46:51 PM #9:	Gobstoppers12 posted... The Guardians were stronger than you might think. At least the ones who did real damage. Omni-Man was also drastically outnumbered and took a ton of hits from combo attacks and whatnot. I like to think he let himself get hurt, better to establish a cover story. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:953480347] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>The Guardians were stronger than you might think. At least the ones who did real damage. Omni-Man was also drastically outnumbered and took a ton of hits from combo attacks and whatnot.</quote>I like to think he let himself get hurt, better to establish a cover story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/02/21 5:03:20 PM #10:	dave_is_slick posted... I like to think he let himself get hurt, better to establish a cover story. Yes, this is most likely. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953480855] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite> <quote>I like to think he let himself get hurt, better to establish a cover story.</quote> Yes, this is most likely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cowthief 05/03/21 4:29:59 PM #11:	Are you telling me that this ~~Loki looking mother fucker built Earth's best counter to Viltrumites in a sewer with a box of scraps?~~ --- ...updating spreadsheets <cite>Cowthief posted [p:953514959] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Are you telling me that this Loki looking mother fucker built Earth's best counter to Viltrumites in a sewer with a box of scraps? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 05/03/21 4:37:38 PM #12:	Also, Omni Man was actually holding back against Mark. He wasn't trying to outright kill him like he did the Guardians. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:953515222] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Also, Omni Man was actually holding back against Mark. He wasn't trying to outright kill him like he did the Guardians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwiggitySwoogit 05/03/21 8:38:16 PM #13:	Balnazarr posted... Ummm, the Guardians didn't do much at all. Most of them died in seconds. Only War Woman, Red Scare and Immortal did anything. He wound up in the hospital after passing out. That's a little more than not much at all. <cite>SwiggitySwoogit posted [p:953523536] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Balnazarr posted... </cite> <quote>Ummm, the Guardians didn't do much at all. Most of them died in seconds. Only War Woman, Red Scare and Immortal did anything.</quote> He wound up in the hospital after passing out. That's a little more than not much at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 05/03/21 8:46:06 PM #14:	Fony posted... Ignoring any other attempt at an explanation, Omni-Man is massively more powerful than the Guardians combined and in the comic they did nothing to him at all, he is faster and stronger than all combined by far and I have no idea why one of the changes was to have them beat him up and him play hurt for so long. Maybe the writers just thought it made more sense given his angle of being the sole survivor of the meeting. If the guardians were as weak as they were in the comics itd had made no sense why Nolen would even had bothered eliminating them. They wouldnt have been a threat to a viltriumite invasion at all. But as you said, maybe he did sand bag a little for a cover story. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:953523819] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Fony posted... </cite> <quote>Ignoring any other attempt at an explanation, Omni-Man is massively more powerful than the Guardians combined and in the comic they did nothing to him at all, he is faster and stronger than all combined by far and I have no idea why one of the changes was to have them beat him up and him play hurt for so long. Maybe the writers just thought it made more sense given his angle of being the sole survivor of the meeting.</quote>If the guardians were as weak as they were in the comics itd had made no sense why Nolen would even had bothered eliminating them. They wouldnt have been a threat to a viltriumite invasion at all. But as you said, maybe he did sand bag a little for a cover story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 05/03/21 8:46:48 PM #15:	These are minor book spoilers that don't really affect the plotline at all. But I'm still going to tag them as I'm not sure if the show has ever mentioned it. ~~Mark is incredibly young for Viltrumite. They have very, very long lifespans. So while he is extremely strong, he's still just a baby by their standards.~~ ~~As for his offense, he has the stock gets-more-powerful-when-he's-angry trope. He has feats of strength and ferociousness that only happens when he gets really pissed off or is defending a loved one.~~ Jiek_Fafn posted... The cat guy should've knocked him through all of the lower levels of that building easily too if that's what it takes to badly injure him. Battle Beast? Was he a white lion with a passion for fighting? If so.....oh gosh he's amazing. He comes back and he's a precious gift of ridiculousness. Battle Beast will only fight at full strength if someone is worthy of him if I remember correctly. In his introduction, he gets annoyed no one is at his level and doesn't do much of anything. So he was probably holding back to get a gauge of Mark's ability. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:953523848] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>These are minor book spoilers that don't really affect the plotline at all. But I'm still going to tag them as I'm not sure if the show has ever mentioned it. Mark is incredibly young for Viltrumite. They have very, very long lifespans. So while he is extremely strong, he's still just a baby by their standards. As for his offense, he has the stock gets-more-powerful-when-he's-angry trope. He has feats of strength and ferociousness that only happens when he gets really pissed off or is defending a loved one. Jiek_Fafn posted... </cite> <quote>The cat guy should've knocked him through all of the lower levels of that building easily too if that's what it takes to badly injure him.</quote> Battle Beast? Was he a white lion with a passion for fighting? If so.....oh gosh he's amazing. He comes back and he's a precious gift of ridiculousness. Battle Beast will only fight at full strength if someone is worthy of him if I remember correctly. In his introduction, he gets annoyed no one is at his level and doesn't do much of anything. So he was probably holding back to get a gauge of Mark's ability. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/04/21 1:13:00 PM #16:	Prismsblade posted... If the guardians were as weak as they were in the comics itd had made no sense why Nolen would even had bothered eliminating them. They wouldnt have been a threat to a viltriumite invasion at all. But as you said, maybe he did sand bag a little for a cover story. He's just doing his job. Viltrum doesn't want a fight at all, you'll see. ~~There is like 30 of them left~~. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953545372] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>If the guardians were as weak as they were in the comics itd had made no sense why Nolen would even had bothered eliminating them. They wouldnt have been a threat to a viltriumite invasion at all. But as you said, maybe he did sand bag a little for a cover story.</quote> He's just doing his job. Viltrum doesn't want a fight at all, you'll see. There is like 30 of them left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/04/21 1:14:24 PM #17:	Kastrada posted... These are minor book spoilers that don't really affect the plotline at all. But I'm still going to tag them as I'm not sure if the show has ever mentioned it. ~~Mark is incredibly young for Viltrumite. They have very, very long lifespans. So while he is extremely strong, he's still just a baby by their standards.~~ ~~As for his offense, he has the stock gets-more-powerful-when-he's-angry trope. He has feats of strength and ferociousness that only happens when he gets really pissed off or is defending a loved one.~~ Battle Beast? Was he a white lion with a passion for fighting? If so.....oh gosh he's amazing. He comes back and he's a precious gift of ridiculousness. Battle Beast will only fight at full strength if someone is worthy of him if I remember correctly. In his introduction, he gets annoyed no one is at his level and doesn't do much of anything. So he was probably holding back to get a gauge of Mark's ability. ~~Battle Beast has never ever fought anyone seriously besides Thragg. All of the heroes he's wiped, and the viltrumites and other aliens he killed was too easy for him~~. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953545414] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>These are minor book spoilers that don't really affect the plotline at all. But I'm still going to tag them as I'm not sure if the show has ever mentioned it. Mark is incredibly young for Viltrumite. They have very, very long lifespans. So while he is extremely strong, he's still just a baby by their standards. As for his offense, he has the stock gets-more-powerful-when-he's-angry trope. He has feats of strength and ferociousness that only happens when he gets really pissed off or is defending a loved one. Battle Beast? Was he a white lion with a passion for fighting? If so.....oh gosh he's amazing. He comes back and he's a precious gift of ridiculousness. Battle Beast will only fight at full strength if someone is worthy of him if I remember correctly. In his introduction, he gets annoyed no one is at his level and doesn't do much of anything. So he was probably holding back to get a gauge of Mark's ability.</quote>Battle Beast has never ever fought anyone seriously besides Thragg. All of the heroes he's wiped, and the viltrumites and other aliens he killed was too easy for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 05/04/21 1:15:01 PM #18:	What I thought was that Omniman was holding back and letting the Guardians injure him so to make it more believable that he didnt do it. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:953545434] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>What I thought was that Omniman was holding back and letting the Guardians injure him so to make it more believable that he didnt do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ2GrimReaper 05/05/21 1:45:31 PM #19:	--- Big Apple, 3 A.M. https://imgur.com/YzjFA85 https://imgur.com/CqukfNH <cite>SSJ2GrimReaper posted [p:953585586] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 05/05/21 2:01:22 PM #20:	Those android dudes were Dr. Gero levels of plot nonsense lol. Turning random college kids into monsters as strong as a Viltrumite. --- #FeelTheBern https://imgur.com/q5z4CUu https://imgur.com/6B9oFXh https://imgur.com/sy42Dlf <cite>lilORANG posted [p:953586156] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Those android dudes were Dr. Gero levels of plot nonsense lol. Turning random college kids into monsters as strong as a Viltrumite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/05/21 6:26:17 PM #21:	lilORANG posted... Those android dudes were Dr. Gero levels of plot nonsense lol. Turning random college kids into monsters as strong as a Viltrumite. They're nowhere near as strong. Mark was just recovering from being beaten to near death by battle beast and it hurt to even move.~~Every time he faces those things he will be weakened by the plot.~~ --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953595920] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>Those android dudes were Dr. Gero levels of plot nonsense lol. Turning random college kids into monsters as strong as a Viltrumite.</quote> They're nowhere near as strong. Mark was just recovering from being beaten to near death by battle beast and it hurt to even move.Every time he faces those things he will be weakened by the plot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 05/05/21 6:27:15 PM #22:	SSJ2GrimReaper posted... This is amazing. --- Come back in ten years. https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/p6Wfowq <cite>Kitt posted [p:953595952] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>SSJ2GrimReaper posted... </cite> <quote></quote>This is amazing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 05/05/21 6:28:03 PM #23:	Fony posted... They're nowhere near as strong. Mark was just recovering from being beaten to near death by battle beast and it hurt to even move.~~Every time he faces those things he will be weakened by the plot.~~ Uhh, ~~Nolan tore through Immortal easier than he did one of those college kids lol~~ Speaking of...~~why the heck did they bury Immortal in the first place? Just reattach his head!~~ --- #FeelTheBern https://imgur.com/q5z4CUu https://imgur.com/6B9oFXh https://imgur.com/sy42Dlf <cite>lilORANG posted [p:953595987] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Fony posted...</cite> <quote> They're nowhere near as strong. Mark was just recovering from being beaten to near death by battle beast and it hurt to even move.Every time he faces those things he will be weakened by the plot. </quote> Uhh, Nolan tore through Immortal easier than he did one of those college kids lol Speaking of...why the heck did they bury Immortal in the first place? Just reattach his head!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 05/05/21 8:51:48 PM #24:	Fony posted... ~~Battle Beast has never ever fought anyone seriously besides Thragg. All of the heroes he's wiped, and the viltrumites and other aliens he killed was too easy for him~~. I guess I viewed it differently with those fights. One is a one on one fight trying to prove his match. The others like you mentioned were "just" war, battles. Like the difference between practice and game time. >_> --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:953601087] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Fony posted... </cite> <quote>Battle Beast has never ever fought anyone seriously besides Thragg. All of the heroes he's wiped, and the viltrumites and other aliens he killed was too easy for him.</quote> I guess I viewed it differently with those fights. One is a one on one fight trying to prove his match. The others like you mentioned were "just" war, battles. Like the difference between practice and game time. >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornswoggled 05/05/21 8:53:18 PM #25:	Well thats capeshit for you. --- This is the last hoorah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33sI-ltcm6M <cite>Hornswoggled posted [p:953601135] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Well thats capeshit for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AteIierRyza3462 05/05/21 8:54:11 PM #26:	Makes me think Omni-Man took intentional damage on purpose... --- Now Playing: R-Type Final 2 / Persona 5 /// https://imgur.com/tNNXYaz https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeArmMVf/ / https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeDNHwmu/ - pon/pone <cite>AteIierRyza3462 posted [p:953601170] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Makes me think Omni-Man took intentional damage on purpose... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/06/21 3:43:18 AM #27:	Kastrada posted... I guess I viewed it differently with those fights. One is a one on one fight trying to prove his match. The others like you mentioned were "just" war, battles. Like the difference between practice and game time. >_> ~~He mopped a viltrumite immediately and used them as a club against several more. He only was satisfied fighting Thragg.~~ --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:953610604] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>I guess I viewed it differently with those fights. One is a one on one fight trying to prove his match. The others like you mentioned were "just" war, battles. Like the difference between practice and game time. >_></quote> He mopped a viltrumite immediately and used them as a club against several more. He only was satisfied fighting Thragg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 05/06/21 4:06:02 AM #29:	totalnerdken posted... They were doing some real damage to Omni Man too. Well, they annoyed him for a minute. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:953610855] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted... </cite> <quote>They were doing some real damage to Omni Man too.</quote>Well, they annoyed him for a minute. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokison 05/06/21 4:30:08 AM #31:	Marks durability is his best attribute. He doesnt have to control that. And its growing. His strength is subject, but I think of him like Spider-Man; always holding back (until he's not like in E6) His flight and speed are still developing; hes good at it but Omniman proved to be better. He's still learning his power. And Omni man is jacked. As a Vilitrimite. Hes going to be stronger. Give Mark that much muscle and he might kill his dad. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. <cite>Lokison posted [p:953611157] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote>Marks durability is his best attribute. He doesnt have to control that. And its growing. His strength is subject, but I think of him like Spider-Man; always holding back (until he's not like in E6) His flight and speed are still developing; hes good at it but Omniman proved to be better. He's still learning his power. And Omni man is jacked. As a Vilitrimite. Hes going to be stronger. Give Mark that much muscle and he might kill his dad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 05/06/21 4:56:26 AM #32:	<cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:953611445] in The power ... [t:79435725]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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