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TheVipaGTS
04/25/21 3:27:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1386340800884269056?s=20

why does this type of bull shit keep happening to leaders on your side? Why do you continue to support it? And before anyone says both sides, yea it happens on the left, but way less often and not for things so trivial and easily proven like Biden only wants us to eat 4 pounds of red meat!! This is asinine.

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Turbam
04/25/21 3:28:19 PM
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W-w-w-well you see....
MAGA!!!!

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R1masher
04/25/21 3:29:01 PM
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Nice melty

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Antifar
04/25/21 3:31:54 PM
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You're not going to get an honest answer.

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s0nicfan
04/25/21 3:32:21 PM
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This whole situation could have been avoided if Biden didn't pledge to reduce emissions by an impossible amount without proposing an actual plan to do so. In a complete vacuum people can only speculate and the result is said study, that highlights one of the few ways to actually reach that 2030 target is by drastically reducing red meat consumption, is left to get passed around as "fact".

Obviously these people are fear mongering, but it only works in part because if someone actually tries to look up WHAT Biden's plan actually is they'll find... nothing. It's not that "leaders" are falling for bullshit. It's that they're openly exploiting an information gap to rally conservative voters against democrats.

I don't support what they're doing at all, but I also don't support making bullshit impossible promises on the global stage without a concrete plan to back it up.

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TheVipaGTS
04/25/21 3:33:29 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This whole situation could have been avoided if Biden didn't pledge to reduce emissions by an impossible amount without proposing an actual plan to do so. In a complete vacuum people can only speculate and the result is said study, that highlights one of the few ways to actually reach that 2030 target is by drastically reducing red meat consumption, is left to get passed around as "fact".

Obviously these people are fear mongering, but it only works in part because if someone actually tries to look up WHAT Biden's plan actually is they'll find... nothing. It's not that "leaders" are falling for bullshit. It's that they're openly exploiting an information gap to rally conservative voters against democrats.

I don't support what they're doing at all, but I also don't support making bullshit impossible promises on the global stage without a concrete plan to back it up.
So its Bidens fault you guys are so prone to disinformation. Got it.

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s0nicfan
04/25/21 3:34:15 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
So its Bidens fault you guys are so prone to disinformation. Got it.

That's not what I said at all. Are you prone to being full of shit?

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FlameTurtle
04/25/21 3:34:46 PM
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Its Bidens fault that these people are stupid is a very funny take

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tenlaar2
04/25/21 3:35:18 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This whole situation could have been avoided if Biden didn't pledge to reduce emissions by an impossible amount without proposing an actual plan to do so. In a complete vacuum people can only speculate and the result is said study, that highlights one of the few ways to actually reach that 2030 target is by drastically reducing red meat consumption, is left to get passed around as "fact".
Gotta love that "It's Biden's fault that right wing people are making things up, when you really think about it" hot take.
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TheVipaGTS
04/25/21 3:35:37 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
That's not what I said at all. Are you prone to being full of shit?
This wouldnt have happened if Biden... No, Biden did nothing wrong here. He said he planned to do someone. His lack of a plan being released yet is no reason for conservatives (including some in congress) to say Biden said this! When he said no such thing.

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monkmith
04/25/21 3:36:02 PM
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they're sheep, some asshole on the internet feeds them bullcrap and instead of engaging their brain and looking up sources they just start bleating loudly.



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Machete
04/25/21 3:37:29 PM
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R1masher posted...
Nice melty


Knock it off with the trolling and go back to your botany
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NinjaWarrior455
04/25/21 3:37:55 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This whole situation could have been avoided if Biden didn't pledge to reduce emissions by an impossible amount without proposing an actual plan to do so. In a complete vacuum people can only speculate and the result is said study, that highlights one of the few ways to actually reach that 2030 target is by drastically reducing red meat consumption, is left to get passed around as "fact".

Obviously these people are fear mongering, but it only works in part because if someone actually tries to look up WHAT Biden's plan actually is they'll find... nothing. It's not that "leaders" are falling for bullshit. It's that they're openly exploiting an information gap to rally conservative voters against democrats.

I don't support what they're doing at all, but I also don't support making bullshit impossible promises on the global stage without a concrete plan to back it up.
Are you ever tired of being full of shit and carrying the water for these morons that spread this disinformation

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Quicksilver
04/25/21 3:40:02 PM
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So what is Joe Bidens plan?

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BudDupree48
04/25/21 3:41:43 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
So what is Joe Bidens plan?



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monkmith
04/25/21 3:42:28 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
So what is Joe Bidens plan?
well if we go by FOX "news" then first he's got to force everyone to gay marry before going on to kill god...

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UnfairRepresent
04/25/21 3:43:43 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This whole situation could have been avoided if Biden didn't pledge to reduce emissions by an impossible amount without proposing an actual plan to do so.
lol

"its Biden's fault we made up bullshit about Biden to discredit him"

That's so utterly pathetic

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Machete
04/25/21 3:45:34 PM
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monkmith posted...
first he's got to force everyone to gay marry before going on to kill god...


I bet buddupree believes this is happening
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Doom_Art
04/25/21 3:46:06 PM
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"It's actually Biden's fault that conservatives do stupid shit" is a pretty interesting deflection

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VigorouslySwish
04/25/21 3:47:24 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1386340800884269056?s=20

why does this type of bull shit keep happening to leaders on your side? Why do you continue to support it? And before anyone says both sides, yea it happens on the left, but way less often and not for things so trivial and easily proven like Biden only wants us to eat 4 pounds of red meat!! This is asinine.

You know how you look at their news and see a bunch of completely obvious 100% bullshit? That's exactly what they see when they look at your news.

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s0nicfan
04/25/21 3:50:24 PM
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I should have expected these responses. TC asks an "honest question" about how people fall for misinformation. I point out that one of the reasons is because when there's no information to check against its easier for misinformation to spread. Low tier trolls interpret that as "hurr it's biden's fault stupid people fall for misinformation" because they don't actually care about how it happens, they just wanted to say conservatives are stupid.

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Machete
04/25/21 3:53:36 PM
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VigorouslySwish posted...


You know how you look at their news and see a bunch of completely obvious 100% bullshit? That's exactly what they see when they look at your news.


So how many forced gay marriages have there been? Has xmas actually been stolen from christians? Is it proven that covid is real or not? Is it proven that sandy hook happened or not? Did the "pedo pizza place" even have a basement at all? Is trump still president?

Why do their opinions matter when they constantly deny reality?
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/25/21 3:53:53 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
they just wanted to say conservatives are stupid.
Bingo. Thats all anyone on this site wants to say nowadays.

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Doom_Art
04/25/21 3:54:20 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I point out that one of the reasons is because when there's no information to check against its easier for misinformation to spread.
You're almost there...

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Machete
04/25/21 3:55:52 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Bingo. Thats all anyone on this site wants to say nowadays.


What are you doing to help conservatives not go into fake news death spirals?
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MrKapowski
04/25/21 3:56:01 PM
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Machete posted...
So how many forced gay marriages have there been? Has xmas actually been stolen from christians? Is it proven that covid is real or not? Is it proven that sandy hook happened or not? Did the "pedo pizza place" even have a basement at all? Is trump still president?

Why do their opinions matter when they constantly deny reality?

How come your boy Shablagoo gets a pass for denying reality?

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MabusIncarnate
04/25/21 3:57:31 PM
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Well, first Biden took our guns, then he took our cheeseburgers, and then he allowed the gays to remain American citizens. As a result, Biden is taking our freedoms to kill people, be obese and hate the gays.

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tenlaar2
04/25/21 3:57:42 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
How come your boy Shablagoo gets a pass for denying reality?
A pass? Have you ever actually read a Shablagoo topic? The only redeeming thing about them is how hilarious it can get when people constantly destroy his poorly thought out "arguments" and he flails afterward, when he doesn't just abandon topic entirely.
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Blue_Dream87
04/25/21 3:59:07 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
How come your boy Shablagoo gets a pass for denying reality?

lmao this pathetic-ass attempt to both sides this when every leftist on CE dunks on Shab

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SothaSil
04/25/21 3:59:09 PM
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tenlaar2 posted...
A pass? Have you ever actually read a Shablagoo topic? The only redeeming thing about them is how hilarious it can get when people constantly destroy his poorly thought out "arguments" and he flails afterward, when he doesn't just abandon topic entirely.
He means because Machete is Shab's buddy and has gone from saying Shab is being misunderstood to straightup parroting Shab's arguments.

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BudDupree48
04/25/21 4:00:34 PM
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tenlaar2 posted...
A pass? Have you ever actually read a Shablagoo topic? The only redeeming thing about them is how hilarious it can get when people constantly destroy his poorly thought out "arguments" and he flails afterward, when he doesn't just abandon topic entirely.

Leave shabadadoo alone

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gatorsPENSbucs
04/25/21 4:00:49 PM
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Machete posted...
What are you doing to help conservatives not go into fake news death spirals?
I couldnt care less about politics and the same goes for the news actually. I think its pretty hilarious you and others here think its some obsession of mine.

and this whole labeling me as a conservative is pretty funny too, I think I took that what side are you test once and I was on the left side with that.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/21 4:01:13 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
yea it happens on the left
So why do you continue to support it?

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MabusIncarnate
04/25/21 4:04:18 PM
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The first week of his presidency, Biden sold the USA to China. CHINA! Best brush up on your Japanese America, we are being overrun.

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MrKapowski
04/25/21 4:04:29 PM
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tenlaar2 posted...
A pass? Have you ever actually read a Shablagoo topic? The only redeeming thing about them is how hilarious it can get when people constantly destroy his poorly thought out "arguments" and he flails afterward, when he doesn't just abandon topic entirely.


Blue_Dream87 posted...
lmao this pathetic-ass attempt to both sides this when every leftist on CE dunks on Shab

I'm specifically referring to Machete enabling Shablagoo

Calm down

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Blue_Dream87
04/25/21 4:05:13 PM
#37:


MrKapowski posted...
I'm specifically referring to Machete enabling Shablagoo

Calm down

Sorry, not all of us keep up to date on CE drama

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RustyFerret
04/25/21 4:05:17 PM
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"It [fake news] affects both the right and the left. It affects educated and uneducated. So the stereotypes of it being simply right-wing and simply uneducated are 100% not true," says Jeff Green, who is the CEO of Trade Desk, an internet advertising company that was recently commissioned by American TV channel CBS to investigate who is reading and sharing fake news online.

"On the left if you're consuming fake news you're 34 times more likely than the general population to be a college graduate," says Green.
If you're on the right, he says, you're 18 times more likely than the general population to to be in the top 20 percent of income earners.
And the study revealed another disturbing trend: the more you consume fake news, the more likely you are to vote. It's "fascinating and frightening at the same time," says Green.

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VigorouslySwish
04/25/21 4:05:52 PM
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Machete posted...
So how many forced gay marriages have there been? Has xmas actually been stolen from christians? Is it proven that covid is real or not? Is it proven that sandy hook happened or not? Did the "pedo pizza place" even have a basement at all? Is trump still president?

Why do their opinions matter when they constantly deny reality?

Their reality is different from your reality. You are 100% sure and they are as well. They don't see any of it as false because the evidence against it is handed out by people with the opposite agenda.

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BudDupree48
04/25/21 4:06:05 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Sorry, not all of us keep up to date on CE drama

It's very clear that some do :/ kinda weird

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Doom_Art
04/25/21 4:06:25 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I couldnt care less about politics and the same goes for the news actually.
i JuSt WaNnA gRiLl FoR gOd'S sAkE

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TheVipaGTS
04/25/21 4:06:33 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I should have expected these responses. TC asks an "honest question" about how people fall for misinformation. I point out that one of the reasons is because when there's no information to check against its easier for misinformation to spread. Low tier trolls interpret that as "hurr it's biden's fault stupid people fall for misinformation" because they don't actually care about how it happens, they just wanted to say conservatives are stupid.
Dude, your response was literally this could have been avoided if Biden had... which had nothing to do with what I asked. Even if Biden had a plan, leaders like Boebert would still push this bull shit, conservatives would believe it, and people will still support the leaders who continue to push it. You failed to answer my question.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/21 4:07:44 PM
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Does anybody remember when people in the media went apeshit about Trump dumping his box of fish food into the koi pond like some kind of savage...only to realize later that Prime Minister Abe did it first, and Trump followed his lead? It was literally a matter of watching the original video instead of some edited version that only showed Trump dumping the food and nothing else, but they were so quick to pounce on any perceived misbehavior that they didn't take three seconds to check the source before running wild with it.


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nemu
04/25/21 4:08:26 PM
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It's kind of just the usual back and forth hyperbole depending on which party has the president and which party has majority power. Though the right likes to advertise its stupidity with a bit more fervor.
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Doom_Art
04/25/21 4:09:03 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Does anybody remember when people in the media went apeshit about Trump dumping his box of fish food into the koi pond like some kind of savage...only to realize later that Prime Minister Abe did it first, and Trump followed his lead?
is this like the ice cream thing where the media talked about it for a few seconds but trump's supporters obsessed over it for several years

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Machete
04/25/21 4:09:16 PM
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MrKapowski posted...


How come your boy Shablagoo gets a pass for denying reality?


He doesn't "get a pass." We had a conversation about it and about source validity and vetting in general (he said other things unrelated to the china topic that I disagreed with and cited fake news sources as well) and we came to an understanding. As far as I know, he has not repeated the things he was saying that time. I said I planned to speak to him about it and I did. Not my fault people didn't want to believe me and instead chose to harass. I don't expect that to continue indefinitely though, and in fact it has predictably died down a lot since the incident happened 2 months ago.
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MabusIncarnate
04/25/21 4:09:30 PM
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Biden is on green screen, he actually has dementia and lives in a hyperbaric chamber, controlling Jewish lasers in space starting forest fires in California.

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VigorouslySwish
04/25/21 4:10:05 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Biden is on green screen, he actually has dementia and lives in a hyperbaric chamber, controlling Jewish lasers in space starting forest fires in California.

America......FUCK YEAH!

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sktgamer_13dude
04/25/21 4:10:10 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I should have expected these responses. TC asks an "honest question" about how people fall for misinformation. I point out that one of the reasons is because when there's no information to check against its easier for misinformation to spread. Low tier trolls interpret that as "hurr it's biden's fault stupid people fall for misinformation" because they don't actually care about how it happens, they just wanted to say conservatives are stupid.

Because the GOP isnt at fault for shit like PizzaGate, Democrats War on Christmas, and other stupid shit that is easily disprovable if you actually have a brain and use it but GOP leaders know that their base doesnt have either of those.

This isnt as easy as you think it is in GOP says thing that cant be disproved its GOP says thing and their base instantly believes it, no questions asked.
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tenlaar2
04/25/21 4:10:50 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
I'm specifically referring to Machete enabling Shablagoo

Calm down
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Machete
04/25/21 4:11:21 PM
#51:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I couldnt care less about politics and the same goes for the news actually. I think its pretty hilarious you and others here think its some obsession of mine.

and this whole labeling me as a conservative is pretty funny too, I think I took that what side are you test once and I was on the left side with that.


But you could still help them. Your "just want to call them dumb" argument would hold more weight. Just a thought.
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