Current Events > The Nier Scenario in FFXIV turns out to be canon to the Nier Series (Spoilers)

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You must remember yoko taro tendency of making all nier lore cannon to the orginal story.

What we know of all the lore is that the red girl survived the paradox virus that as used used defeat her and her clones ,and that her plan to escape earth and her programming still succeeded. (The entire plot of nier was that the red girl didn't want to die,but she could only live so long as she was fighting the enemy.

She was trying to evolve and did to expand enemies from just the androids to the aliens who created her and finally all non machine life.) 9s,2b,and a2 got to survive and were rebuilt on the machine ark that was sent to another planet.

In the epilogue given at the music concert, there are two canonical endings. One where a2 and everyone dies again, and one where a2 never awakens but 9s and 2b do. Yet they decided to continue to fight to stop the machines.

Thus did the ark land on the first. But by then 9s and 2b were fighting for awhile. In a desperate bid to surpass them, red girl decided to copy 2b by making p2. What's more an army of them to defeat the two. But with our aid even that was stopped.

When she was saying we should stop resisting, she wasn't talking to the aliens who just recently popped up on her ship. She was talking to 2b who has consistently fucked up her plans since the start of the 14th machine war.

So where does the Kaine,2b creature come in? Well remember what she was ultimately trying to do was do the impossible. Create life, as a non life form. The only being with memories of a living person both in automata and in all lore besides is A2.

She's from a generation of androids that were built using humans memories. And she's the last model. Not even the Ola units have memories since all human era androids were destroyed. A2 memory base was Kaine, a powerful warrior in her own right. And a2 was still in the machine ark defenseless. The only person to have ever defeat 2b. The only person to have live human memories.

The only creature in there machine and android war with true free will, able to live how she pleases. A2 is special. And more then likely she was in the egg. The creature being creatures was to be an amalgamation of the only things that red girl believed had surpassed her. The human android, and the android who never fails to stop plans. 9s has never been objectively special.

His hacking is something all s units can do, he's never stopped her plans alone, and his combat skills are inferior. So with the memories of Kaine, a2,and 2b, the red girl finally creates life from nothing. And it immediately succumbs to the white chlorination. Humanity plan was that by destroying the watchers forces the watcher attack on humanity would stop.

But a watcher influence since draken one has been that once it starts it cannot stop. Once a watcher arrives in your world,your species is doomed unless they are sealed once more. The queen was never sealed. So as long as humans exist ,so to will the queen corrupt them to spread to other worlds and corrupt them. The red girl immediately took on the traits of a watcher queen.

Just like flower zero. She had finally created life based on humans, and it was close enough to be devoured by the queen. It why during the fight it uses true magic, different from the diluted magic that the machines learned from there time on earth. (The red and black orbs.) But with it's death we assume it to be over. But with 2b and 9s knowing the history of humanity and of that creature,the creature androids and replicates were orginally designed to kill, they knew it wasn't over. Once a watcher arrives it's to late. All you can do is seal off the infection. And that's what they did. They went back and closed the door.

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Okay but when Toobie fight Sephiroth?

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