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teep_
04/28/21 12:25:07 PM
#101:


Is ZA WARUDO Part 3 or Part 4? Don't tell me what it is since idk that, just that I need to experience it in the original Japanese
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Guide
04/28/21 12:30:20 PM
#102:


With minimal spoilers, it means you should definitely watch part 3 subbed, and probably watch part 4 subbed.

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Kircheis
04/28/21 12:31:04 PM
#103:


ZA WARUDO is from Part 3.
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teep_
04/28/21 12:31:27 PM
#104:


Understood. I was gonna watch part 3 subbed anyway, guess I'll consider watching part 4 subbed too. But first I need to get home so I can start part 2!
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CookieMarvin
04/28/21 1:29:06 PM
#105:


also tbh watch 2 subbed too

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Gurifisu
04/28/21 1:51:32 PM
#106:


CookieMarvin posted...
also tbh watch 2 subbed too
I understand the appeal behind the campy dub, but certain scenes just don't hit as hard for me because of it. For example, it feels like the scene after the divine sandstorm just doesn't have the same tone

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teep_
04/28/21 1:52:59 PM
#107:


CookieMarvin posted...
also tbh watch 2 subbed too

Nah, I want more amazingly bad British accent goodness
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DezDroppedFreak
04/28/21 1:57:54 PM
#108:


CookieMarvin posted...
also tbh watch 2 subbed too


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CookieMarvin
04/28/21 2:23:00 PM
#109:


freak please make him watch it subbed

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LostForest
04/28/21 2:26:23 PM
#110:


I would say go with the sub for 3, but definitely go dub for 4.

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teep_
04/28/21 2:50:07 PM
#111:


@AlisLandale posted...
Tell us if you recognize the dub voice for Joseph, TC. I cant unhear a certain role they had and it makes Part 2s dub super surreal for me. >_>

It's vaguely familiar but not ringing any specific bells
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teep_
04/28/21 3:17:56 PM
#112:


I really like JoJo in this lol

Also it seems to have become a bit more adult. First Speedwagon/JoJo shipping and now breast implants
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teep_
04/28/21 3:49:10 PM
#113:


OK, I'm moving onto part 3

Fuck Nazis and this sort of representation of them

Fucking bullshit
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Gurifisu
04/28/21 3:55:45 PM
#114:


Imagine skipping one of the best parts.

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CookieMarvin
04/28/21 3:57:47 PM
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slmcknett
04/28/21 8:20:23 PM
#116:


Yeah idk what the Nazi stuff was about but Pt2 is the best part.

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Kircheis
04/28/21 11:10:48 PM
#117:


I'm pretty sure the whole point of the Nazi stuff was so you wouldn't feel about watching people get butchered by half-naked Aztec vampires. Well, that's what I choose to believe anyway, good stuff. Especially the squirrel scene, if you know it you know it. Try and give Part 2 another chance teep, it's a really fun arc.
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LostForest
04/28/21 11:52:10 PM
#118:


Kircheis posted...
I'm pretty sure the whole point of the Nazi stuff was so you wouldn't feel about watching people get butchered by half-naked Aztec vampires.

This. I thought it was weird at first, but you gotta disconnect yourself from reality for the sake of the show. Especially cuz like, in the context of the story, early on in WW2, the true extent of just how evil Germany was wasn't fully understood yet.

Even so, the Nazis are still portrayed as villains and are the reason the pillar men are able to escape in the first place.

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DezDroppedFreak
04/29/21 10:50:37 AM
#119:


I dont know what you mean by this representation because all you couldve seen so far is just generic villain tropes

I also echo what others have said and its also made very clear they are not good people. One guy gets fan service because spoilers but even then its still made abundantly clear hes not a good person

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mcpwnia
04/29/21 11:21:09 AM
#120:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
I dont know what you mean by this representation because all you couldve seen so far is just generic villain tropes

I also echo what others have said and its also made very clear they are not good people. One guy gets fan service because spoilers but even then its still made abundantly clear hes not a good person


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BlueBoy675
04/29/21 1:13:36 PM
#121:


Stroheim is an interesting character because Araki introduces him in a scene in which he does something objectively horrible, but then paints him in a more likable light throughout the story, as weird as that is. I honestly see him as more of a parody of the Nazis.

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teep_
04/29/21 3:39:20 PM
#122:


Decided to carry on. Y'all better be right

The German accents are offensive, I hope we can at least agree on that
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CookieMarvin
04/29/21 3:42:18 PM
#123:


stop watching dubs!!! but also ty for picking it back up, u would be starving yourself of excellent television

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DezDroppedFreak
04/29/21 3:47:40 PM
#124:


teep_ posted...
The German accents are offensive, I hope we can at least agree on that
I cant because dont know what they sound like because I watched it sub and only know the British ones from clips, but you were watching the dub for over the top accents.

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Kircheis
04/29/21 3:52:43 PM
#125:


Oh, is teep actually German? I don't really keep up with CEpeople's lives outside of this board so I never realized. I can understand why seeing Nazis depicted in something as campy and irreverent as JoJo might strike a nerve then. Admittedly I don't actually remember much about how they were depicted after Stroheim's introduction, I mostly just remember that some of my favorite scenes from Part 2 involve Nazis being slaughtered by half-naked Aztec vampires. I don't remember how much of Part 2 they were even present for tbh.
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slmcknett
04/29/21 4:02:11 PM
#126:


Stroheim is the only important Nazi, but I feel like this is one of those "even 1 scene is more than they should've had" situations.

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teep_
04/29/21 4:04:36 PM
#127:


Yeah, I'm German

The British accents in part one were so bad they were good again

JoJo has a decent accent in part 2 (Johnny Yong Bosch ftw) but the Nazi accents are atrocious

A few questions:

when does Wendee Lee's character appear? (I don't remember the episode number, but Strohheim just killed himself after telling JoJo to go to Europe)

apparently Lotus Juice worked on the soundtrack?
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slmcknett
04/29/21 4:09:39 PM
#128:


JYB voiced Jonathan. This JoJo is Ben Diskin, and yeah his British accent is fantastic. (He's Numbah 1 from Kids Next Door)

Wendee Lee should appear in like the next episode or so iirc.

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teep_
04/29/21 4:12:54 PM
#129:


Oh, my bad. Ben Diskin a GOAT, it seems

Tomorrow is JJK day, and Saturday is 86 Day, so I'll carry on on Sunday probably
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Kircheis
04/29/21 4:15:45 PM
#130:


Have you met Caesar yet? His accent is somehow the most hilarious thing, it's so bad.
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teep_
04/29/21 4:16:32 PM
#131:


The name doesn't ring a bell. Unless he was the guy JoJo attacked with the cactus
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Kircheis
04/29/21 4:25:51 PM
#132:


Caesar is that fabulous-looking blond guy you've seen in the opening, sounds like you haven't met him yet. You'll know you've actually met him when you hear Bryce Papenbrook's terrible Italian accent.
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BlueBoy675
04/29/21 5:08:09 PM
#133:


Kircheis posted...
Caesar is that fabulous-looking blond guy you've seen in the opening, sounds like you haven't met him yet. You'll know you've actually met him when you hear Bryce Papenbrook's terrible Italian accent.
I cant stand Bryce Papenbrook. Nothing against the guy personally, but hes just so awful in everything hes in. Hes one of the main reasons the dub for AoT is just horrendous

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Kircheis
04/29/21 5:20:23 PM
#134:


BlueBoy675 posted...

I cant stand Bryce Papenbrook. Nothing against the guy personally, but hes just so awful in everything hes in. Hes one of the main reasons the dub for AoT is just horrendous

He does have some roles under his belt that I actually really like though. >_> Like:

Masaomi Kida (Durarara)
Henry (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Makoto Naegi and Nagito Komaeda (Danganronpa series)
Kamui (Fire Emblem Echoes)
Oscar (Fire Emblem Heroes)

And...that's about it actually. Most of his more notable roles are shows I have absolutely no interest in. And I still hate what he did to my boy Inosuke though, it only took literal seconds for me to lose all hype I had for Demon Slayer's dub. >_>
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slmcknett
04/29/21 5:48:38 PM
#135:


I unironically think Caesar is one of Bryce's best performances lol

Mainly because he's actually doing a voice that isn't just "himself," like in all the other roles I've heard him in.

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Kircheis
04/29/21 5:55:18 PM
#136:


I do also like his performance as Caesar, but I'm still gonna roast his ridiculous accent lol. It's so cheesy.
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LostForest
04/29/21 6:01:06 PM
#137:


Caesar's voice is fine, but his Italian accent honestly sounds way more Latino/Spanish than it ever sounds Italian lol.

Golden Wind meanwhile, there's actually a few dub accents in there that sound pretty good.

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teep_
04/30/21 3:18:20 PM
#138:




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Kircheis
04/30/21 3:42:56 PM
#139:


You're a JoJo fan now so literally everything you watch is gonna look like a JoJo reference. That's the curse of being a JoJo fan, you just kind of learn to accept it.
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Beveren_Rabbit
04/30/21 3:48:16 PM
#140:


Jojo started in the 80's. By 1993 Part 3 was finished.
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Beveren_Rabbit
04/30/21 3:52:56 PM
#141:


There is nothing wrong with the Jojo dub. Certain scenes having a different tone or take altogether doesn't mean it's worse than the sub.
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ChrisTaka
04/30/21 3:59:35 PM
#142:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
There is nothing wrong with the Jojo dub. Certain scenes having a different tone or take altogether doesn't mean it's worse than the sub.

True, I just find it funny when everyone is speaking Japanese and then you have Joseph over here suddenly saying "OH NO" in english lol

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ThePrinceFish
04/30/21 4:01:49 PM
#143:


Caesar is the best JoBro

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MorganTJ
04/30/21 4:02:33 PM
#144:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
There is nothing wrong with the Jojo dub. Certain scenes having a different tone or take altogether doesn't mean it's worse than the sub.
I wouldn't say nothing, they're still not allowed to include all the music references. It's fine for the most part up to part 2 (maybe 3), but it gets super weird later on.
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ChrisTaka
04/30/21 4:02:55 PM
#145:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Caesar is the best JoBro

You spelled Bruno wrong

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ThePrinceFish
04/30/21 4:03:15 PM
#146:


I spelled what I spelled

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Gurifisu
04/30/21 4:23:50 PM
#147:


ChrisTaka posted...
You spelled Bruno wrong
He said Bro, not mom.

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BlueBoy675
05/01/21 8:33:11 AM
#148:


ChrisTaka posted...
True, I just find it funny when everyone is speaking Japanese and then you have Joseph over here suddenly saying "OH NO" in english lol
Yeah. All of the Engrish jokes are completely lost in the dub. You miss such classics like

Josephs OH MY GOD
Go ahead, Mister Joesturr
Goodbyyyyyye JoJo!
Yes I AM!

And I mean yeah all of those lines are still in the dub but they kinda lose their impact when everything else is in English as well

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LostForest
05/01/21 9:42:29 AM
#149:


BlueBoy675 posted...
And I mean yeah all of those lines are still in the dub but they kinda lose their impact when everything else is in English as well

You're not wrong, except for OH MY GOOOOD. Richard Epcar does a great performance in the dub. And even if it isn't as zany as hearing a Japanese VA saying it, his grovelly, exaggerated voice makes it just as good if not better IMO.

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teep_
05/01/21 4:15:52 PM
#150:


Watching the next ep

Is JoJo...jealous of Caesar?
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