Current Events > Ex-Porn Star Lana Rhoades: "porn isn't glamorous and doesn't pay well"

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ZannoL posted...

Out of curiosity.. do you dudes find her attractive?

Im gay, so she does nothing for me.

She's an easy 9/10. Pretty face, nice body, etc

Damn_Underscore posted...

what does the tattoo on her leg say?

Googled it and

Fun fact: my tattoo says I am a museum full of art, but you have shut your eyes For me its about the stigma associated with having been in adult work & being stereotyped by people, I felt like they couldnt see the real me because they were already set on who they thought I was from watching me on the internet.

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WingsOfGood posted...

She said it did not pay well. Her argument was not even that "it paid well but not well enough for loss of dignitiy"
It literally was just that it plain did not pay well.

Which we have proven false.

She claims some of the extreme scenes she participated in left her suicidal.

Its what I warn girls against its not that glamorous,

Rhoades said. Its not even well paying. Its a lot smarter to go into Instagram or just do [redacted].

She did say "porn doesn't pay", and she followed it up by talking about Instagram and The Other Website where people can produce their own sexual content. You won't have to do the degrading shit that devalues you and makes you regret being alive, and it pays just as well if not better.

Does she not have a point?

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Slayer_22 posted...

I never said this. I agree with her. It's not worth it. I said this in the post you quoted.

What the fuck, man? Hop off the high horse, man. Your white knight privileges are revoked.

you said

Slayer_22 posted...

Even then, 33k yearly is pretty good for your first job. I know I made 12k my first year of working.

again, completely ignoring what she had to do "because it was her first job"

WingsOfGood posted...

She said it did not pay well. Her argument was not even that "it paid well but not well enough for loss of dignitiy"
It literally was just that it plain did not pay well.

Which we have proven false.

WingsOfGood posted...

Read the op again.

You are making this shit up.

She thinks having 100,000 at 21 is nothing.

i listened to the entire podcast...she obviously meant it paid nothing compared to both what she had to do (she emphasized her loss of privacy and self) and compared to what people perceived porn stars to make

i don't think she literally meant 100k was shit, it was more hyperbole/in comparison to

but again people here just see 100k, get jealous and immediately move towards misogyny
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Also, even if she made millions, the argument of what your loss of dignity is worth is unquantifiable.

If she said she had 1 million at 21, someone could say that is not good money for the horrible horrible work she consented to do to make that.

It is an irrelevant argument.

What is relevant is how much she makes compared to a 21 year old with the same skills as her.
Those would be minimum wage earners.

awesome999 posted...

Googled it and

That's the most pretentious thing I've heard today lol.
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It may not be glamorous, I dont know but woman get paid a lot, the guys dont

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WingsOfGood posted...

Also, even if she made millions, the argument of what your loss of dignity is worth is unquantifiable.

If she said she had 1 million at 21, someone could say that is not good money for the horrible horrible work she consented to do to make that.

It is an irrelevant argument.

What is relevant is how much she makes compared to a 21 year old with the same skills as her.
Those would be minimum wage earners.

i don't understand this point at all

again, her situation and job are not the same as another 21 year olds

why do we need to compare it and reduce it down to "she's only 21 she doesn't deserve more because other 21 years olds dont get that much"

what do other 21 year olds not in her industry have to do with anything...?
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No_U_L7 posted...

again, completely ignoring what she had to do "because it was her first job"

Because it was relevant to a different argument. This particular argument had nothing to do with any of what YOU are talking about. I am arguing, in that post, that her saying she 'didn't get paid shit' is absolutely bullshit.

If I'm arguing the price of tea in china, I don't need to mention that China's government is a fucking travesty, do I? I was arguing what was relevant. Just because I don't acknowledge it doesn't mean I disagree. You are bringing up irrelevant shit and putting words in my mouth.
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No_U_L7 posted...

i don't understand this point at all

again, her situation and job are not the same as another 21 year olds

why do we need to compare it and reduce it down to "she's only 21 she doesn't deserve more because other 21 years olds dont get that much"

what do other 21 year olds not in her industry have to do with anything...?

Because the reason she can make more than minimum wage in porn is due to all the things you are saying make it not worth the pay.

Her argument that you can make more on the unmentionable site is fine, but that is a relatively new thing.

Just a few years ago, how can a person at age 18 chart a path to have $100k by 21?
Selling your body is basically it unless you are genius entrepreneur.

This is called a tradeoff.
Maybe they will have to pay more though due to the site I cannot name.

Slayer_22 posted...

Because it was relevant to a different argument. This particular argument had nothing to do with any of what YOU are talking about. I am arguing, in that post, that her saying she 'didn't get paid shit' is absolutely bullshit.

If I'm arguing the price of tea in china, I don't need to mention that China's government is a fucking travesty, do I? I was arguing what was relevant. Just because I don't acknowledge it doesn't mean I disagree. You are bringing up irrelevant shit and putting words in my mouth.

got it, the issue there is people are taking what she said literally

No_U_L7 posted...

i listened to the entire podcast...she obviously meant it paid nothing compared to both what she had to do (she emphasized her loss of privacy and self) and compared to what people perceived porn stars to make

i don't think she literally meant 100k was shit, it was more hyperbole/in comparison to

regardless, i still dont think 100k net is a lot after uprooting your entire life (including future) and living in the LA area
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ZannoL posted...

Former porn queen Lana Rhoades

claims some of the extreme scenes she participated in left her suicidal

hmm... I just fapped to that last night


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Let's make it real simple.

You are 18 year old Lana Rhoades.

You can:

1. Go to college and hope to make maybe $80,000 in a few years if your are lucky. You will have to take a loan and pay it off though.

2. Not go to college. Work a minimum wage job like Barista and barely afford to live.

3. Get naked, bang an actor and make $150,000- $200,000

At this time you did not know of that unmentionable site as this was 6 years ago.

Do you, as an 18 year old, think this is good pay for the tradeoff of everyone knowing you are a pornstar and such?

No_U_L7 posted...

got it, the issue there is people are taking what she said literally

Read what people say and don't immediately jump to defend someone and misconstrue their points just to keep arguing, maybe? Yeah?
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Well this topic is going places

Slayer_22 posted...

That's the most pretentious thing I've heard today lol.

Mentioning the fact that I can't read Arabic is pretentious?
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WingsOfGood posted...

Let's make it real simple.

You are 18 year old Lana Rhoades.

You can:

1. Go to college and hope to make maybe $80,000 in a few years if your are lucky. You will have to take a loan and pay it off though.

2. Not go to college. Work a minimum wage job like Barista and barely afford to live.

3. Get naked, bang an actor and make $150,000- $200,000

At this time you did not know of that unmentionable site as this was 6 years ago.

Do you, as an 18 year old, think this is good pay for the tradeoff of everyone knowing you are a pornstar and such?

It may not be something you realize the true cost of until after. Which is why she, on her personal podcast, is getting the info out there

Slayer_22 posted...

Read what people say and don't immediately jump to defend someone and misconstrue their points just to keep arguing, maybe? Yeah?

People ITT that are getting bent out of shape over her having 100k in her bank account need to do the same
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No_U_L7 posted...

People ITT that are getting bent out of shape over her having 100k in her bank account need to do the same

Everyone read it. Doesn't mean they like it.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Everyone read it. Doesn't mean they like it.

gotta set personal feelings and reality apart

disclaimer: it says she said this on a different podcast than her own. i did not listen to the one mentioned in the article, but she talks about similar things on her own podcast, i must have conflated the two
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She is so dumb jesus

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No_U_L7 posted...

and another factor people aren't considering:

you need to make an absolute minimum $82,077.47/year to comfortably live in los angeles, where her career is based

(source: https://la.curbed.com/2016/4/26/11511504/los-angeles-affordability

and using an inflation calculator)

i always forget how many people here live in fly over country where you can buy a 3 bedroom house for 20k

Households in Los Angeles, CA have a median annual income of $62,474

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Anteaterking posted...

Households in Los Angeles, CA have a median annual income of $62,474

Yep most people live poorly in LA
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No_U_L7 posted...

gotta set personal feelings and reality apart

disclaimer: it says she said this on a different podcast than her own. i did not listen to the one mentioned in the article, but she talks about similar things on her own podcast, i must have conflated the two

Says the guy that straight up ignored what I said to argue a point I wasn't making.
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WingsOfGood posted...

Because the reason she can make more than minimum wage in porn is due to all the things you are saying make it not worth the pay.

The things she describes as having made her suicidal in the past, almost certainly because whatever she was doing was not worth what they were paying her. Stuff she's explicitly trying to warn other young women off of.

Her argument that you can make more on the unmentionable site is fine, but that is a relatively new thing.

Which is why her comments are relevant right now. There's an alternative to the porn industry that gives its workers more control and gives them a more direct link to the money they make.

She's not making these comments a few years ago, she's making them now. Now is the time to dissuade more young women from entering the studio system and to go solo on platforms like The Unnamed Platform for their own wellbeing and their own bottom line.

And yeah, they won't be millionaires. But if they can learn to cultivate an audience on their own terms, they can carve out a niche and make some okay money without putting themselves in the hands of a system that will push them to stick two cocks in their asshole for a level of compensation that will likely not be enough to justify the personal consequences that come from that sex act.

This is called a tradeoff.
Maybe they will have to pay more though due to the site I cannot name.

You're committed to calling her an entitled bitch, aren't you?

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MrMallard posted...

The things she describes as having made her suicidal in the past, almost certainly because whatever she was doing was not worth what they were paying her. Stuff she's explicitly trying to warn other young women off of.

Which is why her comments are relevant right now. There's an alternative to the porn industry that gives its workers more control and gives them a more direct link to the money they make.

She's not making these comments a few years ago, she's making them now. Now is the time to dissuade more young women from entering the studio system and to go solo on platforms like The Unnamed Platform for their own wellbeing and their own bottom line.

And yeah, they won't be millionaires. But if they can learn to cultivate an audience on their own terms, they can carve out a niche and make some okay money without putting themselves in the hands of a system that will push them to stick two cocks in their asshole for a level of compensation that will likely not be enough to justify the personal consequences that come from that sex act.

You're committed to calling her an entitled bitch, aren't you?

You're way more eloquent than I am, you should be a lawyer
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ZannoL posted...

She claims some of the extreme scenes she participated in left her suicidal.

Was it Mandingo tearing her butthole a new one

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MrMallard posted...

The things she describes as having made her suicidal in the past, almost certainly because whatever she was doing was not worth what they were paying her. Stuff she's explicitly trying to warn other young women off of.

This is irrelvant to pay.

If they paid her 2 million she wouldn't have been suicidal? I don't buy it.

kuwab0 posted...

Was it Mandingo tearing her butthole a new one

not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, or if that's even actual scene...but yes, one of her complaints was an anal scene wrecking her butt hole to the point she may had never been able to do it again
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WingsOfGood posted...

This is irrelvant to pay.

If they paid her 2 million she wouldn't have been suicidal? I don't buy it.

2 million means she never has to do it again and can quit the industry and never have to work again. that sort of light at the end of the tunnel makes a big difference in someone's mental health as opposed to being "stuck"
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Lana isn't doing porn anymore? shit.

iirc wasn't she a homeschooled introvert until she did porn?

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No_U_L7 posted...

2 million means she never has to do it again and can quit the industry and never have to work again. that sort of light at the end of the tunnel makes a big difference in someone's mental health as opposed to being "stuck"

You can quit the industry with $100,000 in savings and the house, car, etc you bought.

Infact, that is what she did is it not? So saying she wasn't paid enough to quit the industry is a weak argument.

But in reality, even millions is not worth the stigma even if you never have to work again. Worth the stigma and it paying well are two completely different arguments.

WingsOfGood posted...

You can quit the industry with $100,000 in savings and the house, car, etc you bought.

Infact, that is what she did is it not? So saying she wasn't paid enough to quit the industry is a weak argument.

But in reality, even millions is not worth the stigma even if you never have to work again. Worth the stigma and it paying well are two completely different arguments.

no, you'd have to worry about working again...

which is why she is saying it's a smarter move to do that other site instead

it's only a stigma if it affects you negatively. if you no longer have any possible employers, it matters much less
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If she didn't do porn she wouldn't get the exposure that she needed to make that money she's making now on the other sites.

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No_U_L7 posted...

no, you'd have to worry about working again...

You have enough to pay for college and not working while doing it till you got your degree.

Or enough to start a small company.

Even millionaires worry about the future and fyi, having that much money means you got more worries and expenses. For one, you don't want to live in a neighborhood with cheap houses as your neighbors know you are a millionaire and they will rob you.

Everything is relative.

So if the stigma is the issue, the amount of pay is irrelevant.

Looking at pay alone, she made bank.

WingsOfGood posted...

This is irrelvant to pay.

If they paid her 2 million she wouldn't have been suicidal? I don't buy it.

I don't think you can put a price on it, but I think she would have been better off if she felt like she was being fairly compensated for the stuff she was doing. That's what this article, and this thread, is ostensibly about - porn apparently doesn't pay well enough for what they want you to do.

Though I will say in regards to suicidal thoughts and intent due to one's involvement with the porn industry - there should be a wider effort to bring therapy into the business, and to get stars who are having a bad time into therapy. Sometimes, that will result in a star making the decision to leave the industry for their own wellbeing. But it's the right thing to do when you've got former stars talking about how miserable and exploited they felt during their time in the spotlight.

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mach25687 posted...

If she didn't do porn she wouldn't get the exposure that she needed to make that money she's making now on the other sites.

thats the same argument people make for unpaid interns

i just dont think it's the way things should be done

WingsOfGood posted...

You have enough to pay for college and not working while doing it till you got your degree.

Or enough to start a small company.

Even millionaires worry about the future and fyi, having that much money means you got more worries and expenses. For one, you don't want to live in a neighborhood with cheap houses as your neighbors know you are a millionaire and they will rob you.

Everything is relative.

So if the stigma is the issue, the amount of pay is irrelevant.

Looking at pay alone, she made bank.

so she'd have to go to college...and after graduating find an employer?

so that defeats the purpose of not having to worry about the future

im sure everyone worries to some extent, but there's lot more safety if you have a couple million...

and no, in no way shape or form would i ever call 100k "bank". she couldn't even afford to live in LA for a year without working off of 100k
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MrMallard posted...

I don't think you can put a price on it, but I think she would have been better off if she felt like she was being fairly compensated for the stuff she was doing. That's what this article, and this thread, is ostensibly about - porn apparently doesn't pay well enough for what they want you to do.

Though I will say in regards to suicidal thoughts and intent due to one's involvement with the porn industry - there should be a wider effort to bring therapy into the business, and to get stars who are having a bad time into therapy. Sometimes, that will result in a star making the decision to leave the industry for their own wellbeing. But it's the right thing to do when you've got former stars talking about how miserable and exploited they felt during their time in the spotlight.

there is a recent movement to do so and there are support groups
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No_U_L7 posted...

and no, in no way shape or form would i ever call 100k "bank". she couldn't even afford to live in LA for a year without working off of 100k

Wat

WingsOfGood posted...

Wat

not everyone lives in middle america where that is a lot of money. that is a very minuscule amount on either coast
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No_U_L7 posted...

not everyone lives in middle america where that is a lot of money. that is a very minuscule amount on either coast

How much is your monthly rent?

WingsOfGood posted...

How much is your monthly rent?

im about to buy a 750k condo that is 500 square feet and mortgage is 3.5k a month including a $800 monthly HOA fee
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Damn_Underscore posted...

And again, even if she did make $33k that is an amazing deal for her (assuming she wasn't mistreated)

Lmao what. I was making that with literally no experience at all in retail the first six months when I was promoted at fucking 19. That is in no way shape or form an amazing deal

Axiom posted...

Lmao what. I was making that with literally no experience at all in retail the first six months when I was promoted at fucking 19. That is in no way shape or form an amazing deal

bUt iT WAs heR FirST JOb
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A quicker point I want to make:

She still has an OF and risky instagram. She didn't quit porn; she realized curating it herself via subscribers, rather than sleazy production studios, is the better way to go.

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No_U_L7 posted...

im about to buy a 750k condo that is 500 square feet and mortgage is 3.5k a month including a $800 monthly HOA fee

12 (3500+800)
12 (4200)
=
$50,040

This leaves her $50,000 for food and everthing else.

Your claim:

she couldn't even afford to live in LA for a year without working off of 100k

FALSE
Even with your living arrangements which of course she wouldn't been buying a $750k condo.

WingsOfGood posted...

12 (3500+800)
12 (4200)
=
$50,040

This leaves her $50,000 for food and everthing else.

Your claim:

FALSE
Even with your living arrangements which of course she wouldn't been buying a $750k condo.

i dont live in LA

ok. she couldnt live in LA for 1.25 years off 100k. happy? it doesnt really make a difference
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ZannoL posted...

Former porn queen

damn :(


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ZannoL posted...

Out of curiosity.. do you dudes find her attractive?





Im gay, so she does nothing for me.

She looked better when she first started out, before she started doing dumb shit like getting lip injections.

Also, good for her.

pfh1001 posted...

Out of curiosity.. do you dudes find her attractive?

She was pre-surgeries. Riley Reid is still hotter regardless.

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Lmao Lana is basically living the lifestyle that rappers live at this point. Flexing her expensive cars and shit. Im not saying shes wrong about porn, but her talking financial anything at this point is a joke.

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100K at 21? No wonder she retired, never have to work again a day in her life, good for her.

Is there anyone on the planet who thinks porn is glamorous? Or that $100K is nothing?!

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