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skermac
04/20/21 9:58:43 PM
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Laws should have long been passed

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monkmith
04/20/21 10:00:08 PM
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because the police union is one of the biggest lobbying groups in the country and bankrolls enough politicians to jam up the system.

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SSJPurple
04/20/21 10:02:25 PM
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I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police...we just want a better trained and higher quality police.

Why is it lawyers take years of school to practice law but we expect police to enforce it with 6 months of training? It makes no sense.
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ShyOx
04/20/21 10:05:35 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police...we just want a better trained and higher quality police.

Why is it lawyers take years of school to practice law but we expect police to enforce it with 6 months of training? It makes no sense.

Probably because the branding is terrible optics #defundthepolice

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monkmith
04/20/21 10:07:09 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police...we just want a better trained and higher quality police.

Why is it lawyers take years of school to practice law but we expect police to enforce it with 6 months of training? It makes no sense.
because being a lawyer is a paid profession, the better you are the higher a price you can demand of your client. there's return on investment. cops are paid relatively cheap wages in comparison.

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SSJPurple
04/20/21 10:12:21 PM
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monkmith posted...
because being a lawyer is a paid profession, the better you are the higher a price you can demand of your client. there's return on investment. cops are paid relatively cheap wages in comparison.

This would be a non issue. If we could get police the higher quality training I mentioned a higher paycheck would be a shoe in.

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OffTempo
04/20/21 10:21:23 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police...we just want a better trained and higher quality police.

Why is it lawyers take years of school to practice law but we expect police to enforce it with 6 months of training? It makes no sense.
6 months of the academy, 1 year of FTO, and 1 year of being on probation. Policing isn't something that is just taught in the classroom, the academy only trains you so much for the beat. Its also an issue of funding, bigger cities don't always provide a whole lot of funding and more funding = more training.

The lawyer police comparison doesn't really make sense once you realize that in law school you don't just learn criminal, state and constitutional law. You're learning Admiralty, Business, Environmental, First Amendment, Health Care, Intellectual Property Law, Patent, Family law etc. Not everyone who goes through law school ends up a prosecutor or defense attorney.

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Alucard188
04/20/21 10:22:10 PM
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Why would politicians want to reform the thing that directly benefits them?

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SiO4
04/20/21 11:04:20 PM
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Because being 'tough on crime' has been a slogan for decades.
Never white color crime of course....just other people crime.
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shnangyboos
04/20/21 11:07:42 PM
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What is white color crime?

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monkmith
04/20/21 11:12:47 PM
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shnangyboos posted...
What is white color crime?
when an investment banker sets up a panzi scheme and steals the life savings of dozens/hundreds of people.

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Antifar
04/20/21 11:15:47 PM
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Would cops follow reforms? Chokeholds were banned by the NYPD when a cop killed Eric Garner with one.

Additionally,
https://gizmodo.com/nypd-union-doxes-mayors-daughter-on-twitter-1843813751

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shnangyboos
04/20/21 11:18:53 PM
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monkmith posted...
when an investment banker sets up a panzi scheme and steals the life savings of dozens/hundreds of people.


That's white collar, which I assumed he meant, but he followed it with other people crime.

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monkmith
04/20/21 11:19:03 PM
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Antifar posted...
Would cops follow reforms? Chokeholds were banned by the NYPD when a cop killed Eric Garner with one.

Additionally,
https://gizmodo.com/nypd-union-doxes-mayors-daughter-on-twitter-1843813751
wasn't that less a choke hold and more them literally just burking him?

oh and that story is delightful... why are police unions still around again?

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monkmith
04/20/21 11:20:00 PM
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shnangyboos posted...
That's white collar, which I assumed he meant, but he followed it with other people crime.
oh, missed that...

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monkeysRfunny
04/20/21 11:28:03 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police
https://www.nbc29.com/2021/04/19/abolish-police
-noise-demonstration-held-outside-charlottesville-police-department/

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SiO4
04/20/21 11:35:59 PM
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shnangyboos posted...
What is white color crime?


LOL probably a Freudian Slip in this case.
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SiO4
04/20/21 11:37:34 PM
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shnangyboos posted...


That's white collar, which I assumed he meant, but he followed it with other people crime.


That was intentional though. That's a little read between the lines moment.
But other people can be anyone that isn't in w/e circle they are in.
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skermac
04/21/21 11:37:46 AM
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SSJPurple posted...
I just wish they understood nobody wants to abolish police...we just want a better trained and higher quality police.

Why is it lawyers take years of school to practice law but we expect police to enforce it with 6 months of training? It makes no sense.

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Questionmarktarius
04/21/21 11:44:03 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Why would politicians want to reform the thing that directly benefits them?
oh damn
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