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TroutPaste 04/18/21 12:43:13 PM #1: |
A group of the worlds richest and most storied soccer clubs has agreed in principle on a plan to create a breakaway European club competition that would, if it comes to fruition, upend the structures, economics and relationships that have bound global soccer for nearly a century.
After months of secret talks, the breakaway teams which include Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain; Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea in England; and Juventus and A.C. Milan in Italy could make an announcement as early as Sunday, according to multiple people familiar with the plans. At least 12 teams have either signed up as founding members or expressed interest in joining the breakaway group, including six from Englands Premier League, three from Spains top division and three from Italys, according to the people with knowledge of the plans. European soccer officials moved quickly to try to block the plan. The Premier League condemned the concept in a statement and sent a letter to its 20 member clubs warning them not to take part, and it and the leagues in Spain and Italy held emergency board meetings on Sunday. Full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/sports/soccer/super-league-united-liverpool-juventus-madrid.html FIFA running shit like the mafia, though. Saying they'll ban players from the World Cup if they play in this UEFA found a powerful ally in opposition to the plans in FIFA, soccers global governing body. FIFA warned that any player who took part in such an unsanctioned league would be banned from appearing in the World Cup. The statement came after UEFAs president, Aleksander Ceferin, demanded support from his FIFA counterpart, Gianni Infantino, amid mounting speculation that the breakaway would have FIFAs backing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/18/21 12:44:14 PM #2: |
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FIFA running shit like the mafia, though. Saying they'll ban players from the World Cup if they play in thisFIFA is, against all odds, right! It's incredibly stupid and cynical and I'm embarrassed that Tottenham ownership thinks it's a good idea. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AndyKnow 04/18/21 12:44:51 PM #3: |
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teep_ 04/18/21 12:45:08 PM #4: |
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TroutPaste 04/18/21 12:45:10 PM #5: |
ngl those games would be competitive and entertaining... at least for awhile. Problem is, what if they lose the top talent or the prestige? How do they naturally let new teams into their league?
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K181 04/18/21 12:45:36 PM #6: |
Hasn't this basically pissed off literally everybody every time it gets suggested, including the fans of the teams that want to form superleagues?
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Antifar 04/18/21 12:46:03 PM #7: |
K181 posted...
Hasn't this basically pissed off literally everybody every time it gets suggested, including the fans of the trwms that want to form superteams?Yes. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 04/18/21 12:47:02 PM #8: |
Who wouldnt want to see the best teams play against each other tho?
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AsucaHayashi 04/18/21 12:52:32 PM #10: |
Returning_CEmen posted...
Who wouldnt want to see the best teams play against each other tho? champions league for clubs already exists and world cup for countries obv. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 04/18/21 12:53:49 PM #11: |
Revnir posted...
Barcelona isn't in Spain Let me know when Catalonia is recognized by anyone. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/18/21 12:54:32 PM #12: |
Returning_CEmen posted...
Who wouldnt want to see the best teams play against each other tho?Among other issues, this list of "best teams" currently doesn't include the teams at the top of England and Germany. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teep_ 04/18/21 12:55:31 PM #13: |
Fooxit
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Vicious_Dios 04/18/21 1:02:17 PM #14: |
I don't give a fuck about soccer, but maybe with these upper echelons playing against one another we'll finally see a Goddamn goal happen in a game now.
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Funkydog 04/18/21 1:16:27 PM #15: |
Returning_CEmen posted...
Who wouldnt want to see the best teams play against each other tho?You'd miss out on one of the greatest sporting achievements of Leicester City's win though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 04/18/21 1:18:37 PM #16: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
I don't give a fuck about soccer, but maybe with these upper echelons playing against one another we'll finally see a Goddamn goal happen in a game now. Hardly. Good players and teams score more against bad players and teams. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 04/18/21 3:11:11 PM #17: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
champions league for clubs already exists and world cup for countries obv.I see, I guess this is pointless then --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/18/21 6:21:55 PM #18: |
This thread has more on the proposed structure
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Zikten 04/18/21 6:32:37 PM #19: |
Cool. FIFA shouldn't own a monopoly
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Antifar 04/18/21 6:34:04 PM #20: |
Zikten posted...
Cool. FIFA shouldn't own a monopolyThe solution to that isn't the richest clubs insulating themselves from risk and competition. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alphagamble 04/18/21 6:36:35 PM #21: |
Terrible idea
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GBH713 04/18/21 6:39:16 PM #22: |
Antifar posted...
The solution to that isn't the richest clubs insulating themselves from risk and competition.The teams are still intending to compete in their national leagues (though the leagues aren't going to support this) if you think that they're intending to leave their leagues to do this instead. This basically replaces the Champions League. Might have misunderstood you though. --- GBH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/18/21 6:49:49 PM #23: |
GBH713 posted...
The teams are still intending to compete in their national leagues (though the leagues aren't going to support this) if you think that they're intending to leave their leagues to do this instead. This basically replaces the Champions League.Even on that basis, the Champions League doesn't guarantee these teams' place in it year after year. Tottenham and Arsenal aren't gonna be in the CL next year. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Neoconkers 04/18/21 6:51:43 PM #24: |
Darts did it in I think the 80s, not sure how a much bigger sport would fare with a split like this
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Parappa09 04/18/21 6:53:47 PM #26: |
i cant see this actually happening
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Antifar 04/18/21 7:03:39 PM #27: |
metallica846 posted...
Just do it. Fuck FIFA.The biggest victims of this won't be FIFA but other clubs in these countries, who will see their leagues devalued --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/18/21 7:20:18 PM #29: |
metallica846 posted...
And?And all the fans hate this idea. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 04/18/21 7:21:37 PM #30: |
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radical rhino 04/19/21 12:42:50 AM #31: |
Why does everyone hate this? I know next to nothing about European soccer but doesnt this mean that the big name teams will face other big name teams instead of beating up on teams with far less talented rosters?
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TroutPaste 04/19/21 12:44:05 AM #32: |
radical rhino posted...
Why does everyone hate this? I know next to nothing about European soccer but doesnt this mean that the big name teams will face other big name teams instead of beating up on teams with far less talented rosters? It prevents revenue sharing with smaller markets and leagues ... Which could destroy the existing framework. Also very tone deaf during the pandemic and empty stadiums --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 04/19/21 12:46:18 AM #33: |
It's also stupid because the 15 teams can never be demoted, they're always in
Then the other 5 teams are temporarily allowed in. So if they were the bottom 5, as the main clubs, they aren't punished the same way --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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billcom6 04/19/21 12:47:55 AM #34: |
One thing I am confused about. Would the teams still be in their own national leagues as well?
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TroutPaste 04/19/21 12:49:14 AM #35: |
billcom6 posted...
One thing I am confused about. Would the teams still be in their own national leagues as well? They are supposed to be But the national leagues might tell them to fuck off... That's what's up in the air --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssj3vegeta 04/19/21 12:50:16 AM #36: |
billcom6 posted...
One thing I am confused about. Would the teams still be in their own national leagues as well? dats what da super league is saying But deir respective leagues have threatened to kick dem out, along with FIFA banning players to play in deir national team At da end of da day doe, dey all will succumb to da Super League once dey are paid doe, money always wins baby dis happened to basketball in europe back in 2000 apparently --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Letron_James 04/19/21 12:50:21 AM #37: |
TroutPaste posted...
It's also stupid because the 15 teams can never be demoted, they're always in But when was the last time any of these teams have even been poor enough to be kicked down a league tier? I can see in the super long term that being an issue, but for the next 20 or so years these teams will be competitive in their respective current leagues and not in danger of being demoted anyways --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Geiki Ganger 04/19/21 1:11:30 AM #38: |
This is going to decimate the grassroot programs in nearly all of Europe. Pure greed on the part of the clubs who just want the revenue all to themselves.
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Questionmarktarius 04/19/21 1:23:04 AM #39: |
MLS and Liga-MX are in discussions for a merger. May as well roll in some European teams, and tell FIFA to fuck off.
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