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daynlokki
04/29/21 2:10:59 AM
#354:


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That's a stretch. Anakin the character is a major antagonist in the totality of the films, yeah. But Jake Lloyd the actor never played Anakin in any kind of villainous light. Therefore, he doesn't count.
The character itself is still a villain despite him not being one in the early movies. There is a reason during one of the scenes young Anakin has Darth Vaders shadow.
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Kitt
04/29/21 2:32:41 AM
#355:


daynlokki posted...
The character itself is still a villain despite him not being one in the early movies. There is a reason during one of the scenes young Anakin has Darth Vaders shadow.
That's foreshadowing something in the future, sure. But at that moment in time Anakin wasn't a villian and that's when Jake Lloyd was portraying him, ergo Jake Lloyd wasn't playing a bad guy.

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daynlokki
04/29/21 2:39:47 AM
#356:


Kitt posted...
That's foreshadowing something in the future, sure. But at that moment in time Anakin wasn't a villian and that's when Jake Lloyd was portraying him, ergo Jake Lloyd wasn't playing a bad guy.
Character is one and the same. You wouldnt point at someone playing 9 year old Hitler and say hes anything but a villain.
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Kitt
04/29/21 2:57:39 AM
#357:


daynlokki posted...
Character is one and the same. You wouldnt point at someone playing 9 year old Hitler and say hes anything but a villain.
Yes, Anakin the character eventually becomes a villain later on in his life, but within the context of the movie that Jake Lloyd portrayed that character in, he wasn't a villain.

If there's some oddball movie out there where, for whatever reason, a 9 year-old Hitler is one of the characters, and he spends the whole movie acting like an innocuous 9 year-old, he's objectively not the villain of that movie.

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daynlokki
04/29/21 12:45:13 PM
#358:


Kitt posted...
Yes, Anakin the character eventually becomes a villain later on in his life, but within the context of the movie that Jake Lloyd portrayed that character in, he wasn't a villain.

If there's some oddball movie out there where, for whatever reason, a 9 year-old Hitler is one of the characters, and he spends the whole movie acting like an innocuous 9 year-old, he's objectively not the villain of that movie.
Technically though we knew Anakin was a villain even in those movies.

He also played Anakin in several games where Anakin turned into Vader. Reminder that his presence alone was enough to get two Jedis to choose to train him without the permission of the Jedi council.
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Kitt
04/29/21 1:34:41 PM
#359:


daynlokki posted...
Technically though we knew Anakin was a villain even in those movies.
We knew he would eventually become a villain. But in the Phantom Menace, Anakin -- portrayed by Jake Lloyd -- is not the villain of that specific movie.

He also played Anakin in several games where Anakin turned into Vader.
Okay, now I can see some kind of argument being made here for a game where he's voicing the younger version of a villain within said game. But even then, it's still tough to say seeing as Young Anakin is never treated as a villain, even though we know he's going to eventually become one.


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daynlokki
04/29/21 1:41:25 PM
#360:


Kitt posted...
We knew he would eventually become a villain. But in the Phantom Menace, Anakin -- portrayed by Jake Lloyd -- is not the villain of that specific movie.

Okay, now I can see some kind of argument being made here for a game where he's voicing the younger version of a villain within said game. But even then, it's still tough to say seeing as Young Anakin is never treated as a villain, even though we know he's going to eventually become one.
I mean Yoda definitely said not to train him regardless. He was too old to be a Padawan. Yoda already saw the darkness in the first movie.
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Kitt
04/30/21 9:17:53 AM
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Winona Ryder?
Ed O'Neill?
Jason Statham? (I'm sure he's definitely played a bad guy/died in something. I just can't think of anything off the top of my head)
Reese Witherspoon?
Frankie Muniz? (Pretty sure he dies in Stay Alive but I haven't seen that movie in ages, so I don't remember)

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Southernfatman
04/30/21 9:23:39 AM
#364:


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Ed O'Neill

Miami Vice

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TyVulpine
04/30/21 9:35:16 AM
#365:


Southernfatman posted...
Miami Vice
also The 10th Kingdom

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MrToothHasYou
04/30/21 4:20:40 PM
#366:


Kitt posted...
Winona Ryder?
The Star Trek reboot

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lolife67
04/30/21 4:24:39 PM
#367:


Kitt posted...
Jason Statham?
Main villain in Fast & Furious 7.

Kitt posted...
Frankie Muniz?
Played a murderous cult leader in a Hawaii Five-O episode.
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Killmonger
04/30/21 4:25:37 PM
#368:


Kitt posted...
Winona Ryder?
Ed O'Neill?
Jason Statham? (I'm sure he's definitely played a bad guy/died in something. I just can't think of anything off the top of my head)
Reese Witherspoon?
Frankie Muniz? (Pretty sure he dies in Stay Alive but I haven't seen that movie in ages, so I don't remember)
Ghosts of Mars.


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Kitt
04/30/21 4:39:23 PM
#369:


lolife67 posted...
Played a murderous cult leader in a Hawaii Five-O episode.
Wait, really? Lmao

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lolife67
04/30/21 4:45:25 PM
#370:


Kitt posted...
Wait, really? Lmao
Yeah, it was pretty great lol He was a former child star/actor, too
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joe40001
05/01/21 2:15:53 AM
#371:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Actual sexual predator.

This has been debunked.

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Kitt
05/01/21 5:45:55 PM
#373:


What about Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher?

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MrToothHasYou
05/01/21 5:59:38 PM
#374:


Kitt posted...
What about Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher?
Ashton dies in the Directors Cut of Butterfly Effect and Mila plays an antagonist in Extract as well as playing the eventual Wicked Witch of the West in Oz the Great and Powerful

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Kitt
05/01/21 7:26:48 PM
#375:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Ashton dies in the Directors Cut of Butterfly Effect and Mila plays an antagonist in Extract as well as playing the eventual Wicked Witch of the West in Oz the Great and Powerful
I figured Ashton dies in that. I haven't seen it in forever and don't remember anything fro. It because it kinda sucked.

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joe40001
05/02/21 1:18:53 PM
#376:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
No it hasnt. She gave physical ques to say no and eventually literally said no.

That was her telling of a series of events where she pursued him and then at a certain point told him no at which point he stopped.

Like I don't know much about these things, but if somebody asks to go with you to your place and then is flirty/kissy with you but then abruptly changes their mind so long as you aren't being an aggressive maniac I'd imagine a person is given a little lag time to pick up on "hints". Or she can just use her words like she did.

Could he have handled it better? Possibly, I wasn't there. But like you are taking all the weight out of the term "sexual predator" if you apply it to both violent rapists and guys who were making out with somebody who was into it and then changed their mind and the guy didn't notice right away.

If you want to call him a sleazeball off of one incident and take it on faith it went exactly as she said, that's fine, but like we should probably reserve the term sexual predators for sexual predators.

IIRC she initiated and pursued him for a considerable duration and willingly gave cues she was interested and very happily went to his place. Not that he's not accountable after that, but at that point he's definitely not being a predator.

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joe40001
05/02/21 1:23:29 PM
#377:


How about:

Angela Lansbury

Jonah Hill

or Betty White

Actually I got one that's probably true, but maybe cheating:
Stan Lee

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Kitt
05/02/21 1:30:31 PM
#378:


joe40001 posted...
How about:

Angela Lansbury

Jonah Hill

or Betty White

Actually I got one that's probably true, but maybe cheating:
Stan Lee
Jonah Hill ends up becoming the villain in Megamind.

Stan Lee (potraying himself) dies in a Robot Chicken sketch.

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TyVulpine
05/02/21 1:34:58 PM
#379:


Betty White dies in an episode of The Bold & The Beautiful

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joe40001
05/02/21 2:28:40 PM
#382:


Neil deGrasse Tyson?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1183205/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

Weird Al?

Paul Reubens?

Somebody whose only ever been the main person on a kids show, like the guy who played barney? Or the blues clues guy? Or the actress who played Stephanie from lazytown.

There are likely people who have only had a few lines as various cameos where they'd also qualify

Like John McCain shows up in Wedding Crashers, 24, and parks and recreation and that's it.

Oh dang, what about Fred Rogers? Does he count, he is "acting".

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TyVulpine
05/02/21 2:51:08 PM
#383:


Paul Reubens
off-screen death in Batman Returns (played Penguins dad)
an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer

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Kitt
05/02/21 3:01:56 PM
#384:


I remember Mr. Rogers was a villian in an episode of the Black Dynamite animated series, but obviously that doesn't count. I just wanted to mention it because it was hilarious.

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daynlokki
05/03/21 2:01:05 PM
#385:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I'm pretty sure that was just a promotional photo.
Its literally in the movie. If you pause the movie at the right time Anakin has the full shadow of Darth Vader.
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Kitt
05/04/21 2:16:13 PM
#387:


Catherine Zeta-Kones?
Taye Diggs?
Jay Mohr?
Keanu Reeves?

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 2:20:05 PM
#388:


Kitt posted...
Keanu Reeves?
"Future prison Ted" was a bit of a dick.
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Kitt
05/04/21 2:28:03 PM
#389:


Questionmarktarius posted...
"Future prison Ted" was a bit of a dick.
That reminds me, I still have to watch the new Bill & Ted and also catch the original one for the first time.

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TyVulpine
05/04/21 3:24:33 PM
#390:


Questionmarktarius posted...
"Future prison Ted" was a bit of a dick.
Pretty much every version except the elderly B&T were dicks.

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 3:25:17 PM
#391:


TyVulpine posted...
Pretty much every version except the elderly B&T were dicks.
Even the "2020" Bill & Ted were kinda dicks.
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lolife67
05/04/21 3:27:23 PM
#392:


TyVulpine posted...
Paul Reubens

an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
That happened in the movie, not the show.
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daynlokki
05/04/21 5:15:02 PM
#393:


Kitt posted...
Catherine Zeta-Kones?
Taye Diggs?
Jay Mohr?
Keanu Reeves?
  1. Bad guy in Oceans 12
  2. Dies in Equilibrium
  3. Dies in Cherry Falls and strangely also on SNL
  4. Dies in Bill and Ted. Robot duplicates throw him off a cliff. He ends up in the afterlife. Also dies in Devils advocate.
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Kitt
05/04/21 5:39:18 PM
#394:


daynlokki posted...
1. Bad guy in Oceans 12
2. Dies in Equilibrium
3. Dies in Cherry Falls and strangely also on SNL
4. Dies in Bill and Ted. Robot duplicates throw him off a cliff. He ends up in the afterlife. Also dies in Devils advocate.
I haven't seen it yet, but doesn't Keanu also die in Knock, Knock?

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daynlokki
05/04/21 6:30:04 PM
#395:


Kitt posted...
I haven't seen it yet, but doesn't Keanu also die in Knock, Knock?
No idea. I know he commits seppuku in 47 Ronin too though.
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Funkydog
05/04/21 6:31:24 PM
#396:


There's also The Matrix first and third films for Keanu, which I would've thought would be an obvious one to discount him >.>

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au_gold
05/04/21 6:47:37 PM
#397:


Eminem

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daynlokki
05/04/21 6:51:10 PM
#398:


Funkydog posted...
There's also The Matrix first and third films for Keanu, which I would've thought would be an obvious one to discount him >.>
Isnt here still coming back for Matrix 4?
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bigtiggie23
05/04/21 6:52:06 PM
#399:


Kitt posted...
Catherine Zeta-Kones?
Taye Diggs?
Jay Mohr?
Keanu Reeves?

I know it's not a movie or TV show but Jay Mohr was the main villain of Saint's Row 2.
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Funkydog
05/04/21 6:53:18 PM
#400:


daynlokki posted...
Isnt here still coming back for Matrix 4?
Both him and Carrie Anne afaik.

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Irony
05/04/21 6:54:12 PM
#401:


Kitt posted...
Jovovich was the villain in the new Hellboy
Barrymore died in Scream

And yeah, I think Jake Lloyd didn't act for long enough to be in anything where he died/played a bad guy.
If you think about it he was the villain in Jingle All the Way

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Kitt
05/04/21 7:03:12 PM
#402:


bigtiggie23 posted...
I know it's not a movie or TV show but Jay Mohr was the main villain of Saint's Row 2.
Wait, really? How did I not know that?

au_gold posted...
Eminem
In his terrible cartoon (yes, there was a Slim Shady cartoon) his animated counterpart based on his IRL persona pretty much dipped back and forth between being a huge dick and a flat out villain.

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daynlokki
05/04/21 7:18:15 PM
#404:


mobilebloechel posted...
Sean Bean
What hasnt he died in?
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