Current Events > Black woman mistakes Hispanic woman as Asian, and assaults her on bus

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Rob Cesternino 04/14/21 4:08:11 PM #1:	https://www.theeastsiderla.com/neighborhoods/eagle_rock/70-year-old-woman-badly- beaten-on-metro-bus-in-eagle-rock/article_88e97dbc-9c97-11eb-8505-fb94c3d499b3.html Another passenger -- who was described as a Black woman age 25 to 30 -- called the elderly woman a racial epithet that has been applied to people of Chinese descent. The victim is in fact Mexican-American. She and her family - longtime residents of Highland Park - are often mistaken for Asian, her son said. The victim was was attacked and injured by the other passenger and was ultimately dragged from the back of the bus to the front, according to her son. Nobody would help. Not even the bus driver, Pete said. The attack only ended when a passenger called 911. The suspect was later arrested on another bus after police issued a bulletin, Pete said. While the victim is Latina, she and her family - longtime residents of Highland Park - are often mistaken for Asian, her son said. --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt <cite>Rob Cesternino posted [p:952831705] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theeastsiderla.com/neighborhoods/eagle_rock/70-year-old-woman-badly- beaten-on-metro-bus-in-eagle-rock/article_88e97dbc-9c97-11eb-8505-fb94c3d499b3.html <quote>Another passenger -- who was described as a Black woman age 25 to 30 -- called the elderly woman a racial epithet that has been applied to people of Chinese descent. The victim is in fact Mexican-American. She and her family - longtime residents of Highland Park - are often mistaken for Asian, her son said. The victim was was attacked and injured by the other passenger and was ultimately dragged from the back of the bus to the front, according to her son. Nobody would help. Not even the bus driver, Pete said. The attack only ended when a passenger called 911. The suspect was later arrested on another bus after police issued a bulletin, Pete said. While the victim is Latina, she and her family - longtime residents of Highland Park - are often mistaken for Asian, her son said.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 04/14/21 4:11:41 PM #2:	Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:952831821] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 04/14/21 4:12:49 PM #3:	refmon posted... Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? Why mention that the victim is Asian then? --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:952831859] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black?</quote>Why mention that the victim is Asian then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Redfeather 04/14/21 4:14:41 PM #4:	Sounds like a mentally ill person. Dragging an elderly woman by the hair is extreme. <cite>Redfeather posted [p:952831928] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a mentally ill person. Dragging an elderly woman by the hair is extreme. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/14/21 4:15:09 PM #5:	Frizzurd posted... Why mention that the victim is Asian then? because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952831953] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Frizzurd posted... </cite> <quote>Why mention that the victim is Asian then?</quote> because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 04/14/21 4:16:05 PM #6:	Redfeather posted... Sounds like a mentally ill person Racists usually are. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:952831986] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Redfeather posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like a mentally ill person</quote>Racists usually are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Redfeather 04/14/21 4:16:55 PM #7:	pogo_rabid posted... Racists usually are. lol fair enough <cite>Redfeather posted [p:952832022] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Racists usually are.</quote>lol fair enough </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescente 04/14/21 4:17:19 PM #8:	Wow, this is beyond words. I don't even know what to say anymore. <cite>Crescente posted [p:952832037] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Wow, this is beyond words. I don't even know what to say anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 04/14/21 4:18:27 PM #9:	Fam_Fam posted... because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant. Why do you want to hide the fact that the attacker is black? --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:952832069] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant.</quote>Why do you want to hide the fact that the attacker is black? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 04/14/21 4:19:22 PM #10:	Fam_Fam posted... because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant. So we don't need to mention when the perpetrator is white then? --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:952832110] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>because the attack was based on the person being thought to be asian, which was part of the cause of the attack, whereas the attack did not happen because of the race of the perpetrator, and is irrelevant.</quote> So we don't need to mention when the perpetrator is white then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/14/21 4:21:40 PM #11:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... Why do you want to hide the fact that the attacker is black? i don't? I didn't post anything about the attack. Frizzurd posted... So we don't need to mention when the perpetrator is white then? no one "needs" to do anything. people provide what they think is relevant to understanding the news story. if the person being white is not relevant to what I'm trying to convey, then i would not include it. if it was, then i would. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952832198] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite> <quote>Why do you want to hide the fact that the attacker is black?</quote> i don't? I didn't post anything about the attack. Frizzurd posted... </cite> <quote>So we don't need to mention when the perpetrator is white then?</quote> no one "needs" to do anything. people provide what they think is relevant to understanding the news story. if the person being white is not relevant to what I'm trying to convey, then i would not include it. if it was, then i would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 04/14/21 4:25:51 PM #12:	Okay, because I see posts all the time that provide irrelevant information like that. --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:952832354] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Okay, because I see posts all the time that provide irrelevant information like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalosiaTana 04/14/21 4:32:51 PM #13:	No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions. --- Figure it out. <cite>CalosiaTana posted [p:952832586] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlipFlopPrdator 04/14/21 4:33:25 PM #14:	Highly racist behavior damn --- F*** Craigslist. <cite>FlipFlopPrdator posted [p:952832610] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Highly racist behavior damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 04/14/21 4:34:26 PM #15:	More blood in Bush's hands. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:952832637] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>More blood in Bush's hands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 04/14/21 4:36:33 PM #16:	Not just white people either. I see when someone is gay being mentioned too. It's like everyone's bitter, and trying to put one over on another. --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:952832703] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Not just white people either. I see when someone is gay being mentioned too. It's like everyone's bitter, and trying to put one over on another. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 04/14/21 6:17:19 PM #17:	CalosiaTana posted... No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions. --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:952836044] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>CalosiaTana posted... </cite> <quote>No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 04/14/21 6:32:41 PM #18:	Because people would assume that the attacker was white before reading about it. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:952836486] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Because people would assume that the attacker was white before reading about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/15/21 9:37:58 AM #19:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Because people would assume that the attacker was white before reading about it. why would someone assume the race was any particular race without other information, let alone that they were white? also, (why) is the race relevant? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952855814] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Because people would assume that the attacker was white before reading about it.</quote> why would someone assume the race was any particular race without other information, let alone that they were white? also, (why) is the race relevant? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 04/15/21 5:38:38 PM #20:	Fam_Fam posted... why would someone assume the race was any particular race without other information, let alone that they were white? also, (why) is the race relevant? Because apparently white people are the bad guys in the world. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:952872203] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>why would someone assume the race was any particular race without other information, let alone that they were white? also, (why) is the race relevant?</quote> Because apparently white people are the bad guys in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/16/21 7:54:37 AM #21:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Because apparently white people are the bad guys in the world. not sure what you'd say/think such a thing. people of all races are good/bad. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952891845] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Because apparently white people are the bad guys in the world.</quote> not sure what you'd say/think such a thing. people of all races are good/bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelbuFrahma4 04/16/21 8:29:42 AM #22:	wtf --- "We'll never see Day-Lewis and Kubrick, or Kurosawa and Eastwood, but we have seen Bale and Nolan, a cinematic dream pairing come to life!" <cite>MelbuFrahma4 posted [p:952892505] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>wtf </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 04/16/21 8:35:29 AM #24:	refmon posted... Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? The same reason literally every crime says the race. I doubt this bothers you every time it's 'cop kills black man' or something. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952892642] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? </quote> The same reason literally every crime says the race. I doubt this bothers you every time it's 'cop kills black man' or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Davos 04/16/21 8:50:38 AM #25:	Terrible . If she'd have been a white cop then the same posters on here so freely condemning this racist women would be finding excuses for her actions. Racist violence is never okay. No matter who it is or who's doing it. Shame a shitload of posters on here can't grasp that. <cite>Davos posted [p:952893001] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Terrible . If she'd have been a white cop then the same posters on here so freely condemning this racist women would be finding excuses for her actions. Racist violence is never okay. No matter who it is or who's doing it. Shame a shitload of posters on here can't grasp that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 04/16/21 10:35:48 AM #26:	CalosiaTana posted... No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions. Where the fuck have you been these past few weeks? That's all the media has been talking about. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:952895748] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>CalosiaTana posted... </cite> <quote>No one cares about black on asian crime. Post when a white guy does it if you want reactions.</quote>Where the fuck have you been these past few weeks? That's all the media has been talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical rhino 04/16/21 10:53:54 AM #27:	Its a hate crime. The race of the attacker is critical information. Dont be stupid. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical rhino posted [p:952896282] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Its a hate crime. The race of the attacker is critical information. Dont be stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solution_45 04/16/21 10:56:23 AM #28:	refmon posted... Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? Why not? Or are we only allowed to mention race when the attacker is white? <cite>Solution_45 posted [p:952896351] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black?</quote> Why not? Or are we only allowed to mention race when the attacker is white? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 04/16/21 10:59:49 AM #29:	ce always wants to handwave racism when it comes from black people --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:952896444] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>ce always wants to handwave racism when it comes from black people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AndyKnow 04/16/21 3:27:41 PM #30:	is Asian Tag. --- https://youtu.be/eMm1rP-m_YM <cite>AndyKnow posted [p:952905154] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>is Asian Tag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AtelierRyza3462 04/16/21 3:28:49 PM #31:	Ugh --- Now Playing: Atelier Ryza 2 / Outer Worlds /// https://imgur.com/tNNXYaz https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeArmMVf/ / https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeDNHwmu/ - pon/pone <cite>AtelierRyza3462 posted [p:952905205] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Ugh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/16/21 8:13:19 PM #32:	radical rhino posted... Its a hate crime. The race of the attacker is critical information. Dont be stupid. why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952913947] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>radical rhino posted... </cite> <quote>Its a hate crime. The race of the attacker is critical information. Dont be stupid.</quote> why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 04/16/21 8:14:13 PM #33:	Throw that racist bitch in prison <cite>What_ posted [p:952913965] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Throw that racist bitch in prison </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 04/16/21 8:15:27 PM #34:	Rob Cesternino posted... called the elderly woman a racial epithet that has been applied to people of Chinese descent. Love how this article gives one party preferential treatment. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:952914002] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Rob Cesternino posted... </cite> <quote>called the elderly woman a racial epithet that has been applied to people of Chinese descent.</quote>Love how this article gives one party preferential treatment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/16/21 11:52:39 PM #35:	Fam_Fam posted... why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. Fam_Fam posted... why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. So we don't need to mention if they're white? What about white on black cop crimes? Do the races matter there? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952920292] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. </quote> Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> why is it critical? if they were [any race] and attacking someone because they are [insert race], then it is a hate crime. hate crime - a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds. has nothing to do with the race, or any other characteristic of the of the attacker, other than their motivation. </quote> So we don't need to mention if they're white? What about white on black cop crimes? Do the races matter there?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/17/21 8:35:54 AM #36:	Slayer_22 posted... So we don't need to mention if they're white? What about white on black cop crimes? Do the races matter there? why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952928119] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>So we don't need to mention if they're white? What about white on black cop crimes? Do the races matter there?</quote> why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 04/17/21 8:40:01 AM #37:	refmon posted... Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black? Are you fucking serious --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:952928190] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Why did you feel the need to mention that shes black?</quote>Are you fucking serious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 04/17/21 8:41:35 AM #38:	Fam_Fam posted... why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here? Because you're being unnecessarily contrarian with no real stance on race related issues. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:952928223] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here?</quote>Because you're being unnecessarily contrarian with no real stance on race related issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/17/21 8:53:47 AM #39:	Fam_Fam posted... why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here? I'm just asking a hypothetical that has to do with your comment. In that specific situation, would you agree or disagree that race should be disclosed? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952928443] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> why are you bringing up random situations that have nothing to do with the topic here? </quote> I'm just asking a hypothetical that has to do with your comment. In that specific situation, would you agree or disagree that race should be disclosed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/17/21 8:59:55 AM #40:	SquirtleSkwad posted... Because you're being unnecessarily contrarian with no real stance on race related issues. i wasn't being "contrarian". I said that the attacker's race has no impact on a hate crime charge (which was based on the race of the attacker), and thus no relevance to the story. I also stated that people make their decisions around what to include based on if the alleged attacker's race is relevant to the circumstances or to the readers' understanding of what happened. The logical conclusion of this stance is that there's no need to say that the attacker is black in this situation, as whether or not it was a hate crime and what the punishment should be is not changed by knowing the race of the attacker. in terms of your police officer hypothetical, race would matter if the person posting believes that knowing the races of the individuals involved would change your understanding and/or provide useful context. For example, cop shoots unarmed black man for resisting arrest would be a different headline to most people than cop shoots unarmed man for resisting arrest, so it would probably make sense to include. the soundness of the decision to shoot and the possibility of the crime being race-related would surely influence if the killing was justified and/or what punishment is appropriate, if any. If you think "white cop" or "asian cop" or "black cop" or "gay cismale cop" add to the understanding of the story, then feel free to add that. it is certainly worth considering what it adds, and the writer's intention for adding/excluding the details. but i've stated my logic/criteria. If you feel differently, feel free to share your opinion. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952928549] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>SquirtleSkwad posted... </cite> <quote>Because you're being unnecessarily contrarian with no real stance on race related issues.</quote> i wasn't being "contrarian". I said that the attacker's race has no impact on a hate crime charge (which was based on the race of the attacker), and thus no relevance to the story. I also stated that people make their decisions around what to include based on if the alleged attacker's race is relevant to the circumstances or to the readers' understanding of what happened. The logical conclusion of this stance is that there's no need to say that the attacker is black in this situation, as whether or not it was a hate crime and what the punishment should be is not changed by knowing the race of the attacker. in terms of your police officer hypothetical, race would matter if the person posting believes that knowing the races of the individuals involved would change your understanding and/or provide useful context. For example, cop shoots unarmed black man for resisting arrest would be a different headline to most people than cop shoots unarmed man for resisting arrest, so it would probably make sense to include. the soundness of the decision to shoot and the possibility of the crime being race-related would surely influence if the killing was justified and/or what punishment is appropriate, if any. If you think "white cop" or "asian cop" or "black cop" or "gay cismale cop" add to the understanding of the story, then feel free to add that. it is certainly worth considering what it adds, and the writer's intention for adding/excluding the details. but i've stated my logic/criteria. If you feel differently, feel free to share your opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/17/21 3:08:03 PM #41:	Fam_Fam posted... in terms of your police officer hypothetical, race would matter if the person posting believes that knowing the races of the individuals involved would change your understanding and/or provide useful context. For example, cop shoots unarmed black man for resisting arrest would be a different headline to most people than cop shoots unarmed man for resisting arrest, so it would probably make sense to include. the soundness of the decision to shoot and the possibility of the incident being inappropriate with a race-related bias would surely influence if the killing was justified and/or what punishment is appropriate, if any. the race of the attacker in something that is explicitly a hate crime does not change ones assessment on if it is a hate crime or an appropriate punishment. That seems to be what's happening here. Considering it is a hate crime. But I bet if this was a white on black hatecrime, damn, bet you'd be alllllll over it. :/ In truth, the public don't need to know shit. We aren't judge/jury/executioner. The extra info is only there to drum up controversy. And this particular controversy is something you're obviously staunchly against. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952938095] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>in terms of your police officer hypothetical, race would matter if the person posting believes that knowing the races of the individuals involved would change your understanding and/or provide useful context. For example, cop shoots unarmed black man for resisting arrest would be a different headline to most people than cop shoots unarmed man for resisting arrest, so it would probably make sense to include. the soundness of the decision to shoot and the possibility of the incident being inappropriate with a race-related bias would surely influence if the killing was justified and/or what punishment is appropriate, if any. the race of the attacker in something that is explicitly a hate crime does not change ones assessment on if it is a hate crime or an appropriate punishment. </quote> That seems to be what's happening here. Considering it is a hate crime. But I bet if this was a white on black hatecrime, damn, bet you'd be alllllll over it. :/ In truth, the public don't need to know shit. We aren't judge/jury/executioner. The extra info is only there to drum up controversy. And this particular controversy is something you're obviously staunchly against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Geiki Ganger 04/17/21 3:17:32 PM #42:	The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. --- Nintendo 3DS Friend Code: 3368 - 1137 - 5460 http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q155/Gamecubesupreme/sf7y9s.jpg <cite>Geiki Ganger posted [p:952938395] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/17/21 3:32:30 PM #43:	Geiki Ganger posted... The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. This too. Imagine the absolute outrage of people assuming every hate crime is white on black because they don't know the hate crime wasn't that at all. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952938860] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Geiki Ganger posted...</cite> <quote>The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. </quote> This too. Imagine the absolute outrage of people assuming every hate crime is white on black because they don't know the hate crime wasn't that at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/17/21 3:40:05 PM #44:	Geiki Ganger posted... The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. True. There was a topic about the two teens that tried to carjack the uber driver and got him killed. Both the article linked, and the op, didn't mention that they were black, so every reply assumed they were white. There were comments talking about how the girls would get away with it because of privelege, or how the article definitely would have mentioned race if it were black teens. Sad, the conclusions some users jump to. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:952939061] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Geiki Ganger posted... </cite> <quote>The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs.</quote>True. There was a topic about the two teens that tried to carjack the uber driver and got him killed. Both the article linked, and the op, didn't mention that they were black, so every reply assumed they were white. There were comments talking about how the girls would get away with it because of privelege, or how the article definitely would have mentioned race if it were black teens. Sad, the conclusions some users jump to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/17/21 4:38:48 PM #45:	NoxObscuras posted... True. There was a topic about the two teens that tried to carjack the uber driver and got him killed. Both the article linked, and the op, didn't mention that they were black, so every reply assumed they were white. There were comments talking about how the girls would get away with it because of privelege, or how the article definitely would have mentioned race if it were black teens. Sad, the conclusions some users jump to. i immediately assumed they were black actually <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952940759] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite> <quote>True. There was a topic about the two teens that tried to carjack the uber driver and got him killed. Both the article linked, and the op, didn't mention that they were black, so every reply assumed they were white. There were comments talking about how the girls would get away with it because of privelege, or how the article definitely would have mentioned race if it were black teens. Sad, the conclusions some users jump to.</quote> i immediately assumed they were black actually </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/17/21 5:06:50 PM #46:	Fam_Fam posted... i immediately assumed they were black actually Sure you did lol. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952941618] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> i immediately assumed they were black actually </quote> Sure you did lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 04/17/21 5:21:00 PM #47:	Slayer_22 posted... That seems to be what's happening here. Considering it is a hate crime. But I bet if this was a white on black hatecrime, damn, bet you'd be alllllll over it. :/ In truth, the public don't need to know shit. We aren't judge/jury/executioner. The extra info is only there to drum up controversy. And this particular controversy is something you're obviously staunchly against. what am i against...? hate crimes? Yes. police brutality, yes. the person who committed the crime is 100% in the wrong, and their race influences nothing about it being wrong. Slayer_22 posted... Sure you did lol. i 100% did. I kind of felt guilty about it, but was right. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952942037] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>That seems to be what's happening here. Considering it is a hate crime. But I bet if this was a white on black hatecrime, damn, bet you'd be alllllll over it. :/ In truth, the public don't need to know shit. We aren't judge/jury/executioner. The extra info is only there to drum up controversy. And this particular controversy is something you're obviously staunchly against.</quote> what am i against...? hate crimes? Yes. police brutality, yes. the person who committed the crime is 100% in the wrong, and their race influences nothing about it being wrong. Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Sure you did lol.</quote> i 100% did. I kind of felt guilty about it, but was right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/17/21 6:16:21 PM #48:	Fam_Fam posted... what am i against...? hate crimes? Yes. police brutality, yes. the person who committed the crime is 100% in the wrong, and their race influences nothing about it being wrong. It influences more than it being wrong if it's a hate crime lol. Fam_Fam posted... i 100% did. I kind of felt guilty about it, but was right. I'm sure you did, buddy. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952943530] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> what am i against...? hate crimes? Yes. police brutality, yes. the person who committed the crime is 100% in the wrong, and their race influences nothing about it being wrong. </quote> It influences more than it being wrong if it's a hate crime lol. Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>i 100% did. I kind of felt guilty about it, but was right. </quote> I'm sure you did, buddy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 04/17/21 6:19:08 PM #49:	Frizzurd posted... Why mention that the victim is Asian then? ... --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:952943617] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Frizzurd posted... </cite> <quote>Why mention that the victim is Asian then?</quote> ... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 04/17/21 6:20:55 PM #50:	Geiki Ganger posted... The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs. plus mentioning race lets us know if it was a hate crime --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:952943675] in Black woma... [t:79405354]...</cite> <quote>Geiki Ganger posted... </cite> <quote>The mentioning of different races as qualifiers is necessary to avoid people assuming the person is white, which will happen because white people are the default mode in this country and on GameFAQs.</quote> plus mentioning race lets us know if it was a hate crime </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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