Current Events > Wealthiest 5% of humans contributed 37% of emissions growth between 1990-2015

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The worlds wealthy must radically change their lifestyles to tackle climate change, a report says.

It says the world's wealthiest 1% produce double the combined carbon emissions of the poorest 50%, according to the UN.


The wealthiest 5% alone the so-called polluter elite - contributed 37% of emissions growth between 1990 and 2015.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560

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remember when they had that huge environmental summit with guest speakers like Leonardo DiCaprio.

then like a few hours later he departed on his 300 foot mega yacht.

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Not surprised. They will completely fuck up the planet, and then be the first ones to fly off to greener pastures when available while leaving the rest of us to deal with their mess.

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chrono625 posted...

remember when they had that huge environmental summit with guest speakers like Leonardo DiCaprio.

then like a few hours later he departed on his 300 foot mega yacht.

what percentage of emissions would you estimate are from yachts?

Hate when the advice is "don't forget to turn off your lights and unplug electronics to save emissions!"

Bitch it's 90% factories and rich people

chrono625 posted...

remember when they had that huge environmental summit with guest speakers like Leonardo DiCaprio.

then like a few hours later he departed on his 300 foot mega yacht.

lol

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https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening

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Is this including factories and shit that they own that produce goods and whatnot that the majority of the population use, or is this just their personal travel and electricity and stuff?

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They each need to dredge up an island and plant trees

Makes for a good yacht dock too

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CHM_Punk posted...

graphics like this are very misleading if they don't take the relative population of those areas into account

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CHM_Punk posted...

I recommend remedial mathematics courses.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Is this including factories and shit that they own that produce goods and whatnot that the majority of the population use, or is this just their personal travel and electricity and stuff?

This is a very valid question.

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CHM_Punk posted...

Youre not refuting evidence against the carbon emitted by both China and India, and keep in mind that China invests about 1% more in renewables than the United States while simultaneously emitting more carbon than the United States.

love idiots like there blaming developing countries for industrializing quickly like the west did before them.

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CHM_Punk posted...

you should consider engaging with the words that I actually said instead of posting a screenshot from an unrelated website

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The entire world is contributing to green house gasses. We as a civilization need to step up. Drive more electric, eat less beef, study up on green energy.

You don't say?

This is why I pay no mind to climate change. If it's real and it's fatal, we're dead. If eliminating greed is the thing that will save us, we are simply going to die. They don't care. Whoever dies with the most toys win. When we're all dead, they'll be the winners.

So fuck it. I'm hoping climate change deniers are right. Because if they aren't, we're going to die. And I won't be the person waiting around for the end. I'll be the man tending to his garden as if it were any other Tuesday.

CHM_Punk posted...

Your words are whining about the source material potentially being misleading. The image is from MediaBiasFactCheck and highlights the factual reporting and solid record of Our World in Data. The doomsday rhetoric that a number of posters on CE operate under about the United States being so terrible and bad does not line up with the hard evidence that can be provided lol.

I wasn't whining or talking about doomsday rhetoric, I didn't mention the United States at all, and I didn't refer to any country (or anything for that matter) as "terrible." I said that the graphic was misleading -- which, in this context, it is

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Also keep in mind top 5% of the world population includes a disproportionate number of Americans.

You could very well be a part of that group and not know it.

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I imagine the culprits aren't really the Leonardo Dicaprios of the world and instead the people that actually own these huge gas and auto industries that are creating the pollution. Not to say Leo is blameless but he's not the focus.

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CHM_Punk posted...

Your words are whining about the source material potentially being misleading. The image is from MediaBiasFactCheck and highlights the factual reporting and solid record of Our World in Data. The doomsday rhetoric that a number of posters on CE operate under about the United States being so terrible and bad does not line up with the hard evidence that can be provided lol.

You do understand that that graph shows the US producing about half the CO2 emissions as China despite having less than 1/4 of its population, right? The amount produced is reflected by the size of a region's colored area, not its vertical placement. The regions are ordered arbitrarily on the vertical axis.

The first plot, of annual CO2 emissions, has the US at about 5 billion tons and China at about 10 billion tons. The second plot a couple posts above this shows that the US has produced 3-4 times the amount of China in the last 250ish years combined, but that's not a particularly relevant number for anything.

CO2 isn't the only relevant gas anyway...

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CHM_Punk posted...

I never once stated that the United States does not play their role in carbon emissions, but please carry on with your America bad rhetoric. The narrative painted by Facebook environmentalists sitting on their ass sharing Greenpeace and David Avocado Wolfe posts that also happen to be writing rant statuses about the United States not doing much or anything about climate change is grossly inaccurate.

You definitely sound like an absolute nutter if that's your response to deconstructing a graph. Of course the US is doing a lot, but a lot of its policies are directed towards the same things (like product standards) rather than the large-scale industrial reforms that would be needed to sufficiently combat the issue.

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