Current Events > Leaked emails prove Trump's team purposely inflated suicides to deter lockdowns

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Rathinor
04/10/21 9:12:23 AM
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Imagine supporting this shit administration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-emails-cdc-covid-risks-b1829184.html

Recently unearthed emails show members of the Trump administration taking victory laps after they successfully managed to convince the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention to change reports on the severity of the coronavirus.

In the email, Mr Alexander called it a "small victory but a victory nonetheless, yippee!!!"

Later in the report, Mr Alexander tells Mr Caputo that he and Dr Scott Atlas - a doctor with no background in infectious disease or epidemiology that Mr Trump used as the public face of the White House's coronavirus taskforce - successfully pressured the CDC to alter a weekly report discussing virus deaths among young Americans.

Apparently Mr Alexander and Mr Caputo wanted to create data suggesting a spike in suicides occurring during the pandemic, despite the fact that suicides in 2020 actually decreased by six per cent
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DepreceV2
04/10/21 9:13:33 AM
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No surprising at all. Fucking terrible thing #4536789 that Trump has done

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gunplagirl
04/10/21 9:25:32 AM
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And yet he'll never spend a day in court, much less jail.

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Joeydollaz
04/10/21 9:25:40 AM
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Remember he talked to Bob Woodward and said he feared national panic?

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SPE
04/10/21 10:31:44 AM
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Rathinor posted...
Imagine supporting this shit administration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-emails-cdc-covid-risks-b1829184.html

remember all those concerned democratic voters and concerned impartial journalists from places like cnn who gave cuomo hell for the cooked COVID statistics?

theyre curiously silent about this. Its almost like theyre controlled opposition

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Joel95
04/10/21 10:33:55 AM
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Suicide rate dropped last year? I guess this just proves how fucked capitalism is.
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SPE
04/10/21 10:46:52 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Fuck Cuomo and his deliberate killing of old people

yes, yes, we agree on that. you didnt even say fuck trump and his ____ ITT though.

conservatives have a double standard (I know youre not a conservative) and it is expected, but liberals do as well and it also favors the MAGA/GOP/Q, so were all fucked.

all of the the people pushing the creepy Biden memes, the hair sniffing bullshit, and all of the politicians from BOTH SIDES clutching their pearls about some Hunter leaked pics are curiously silent about gaetz and his sex trafficking and him showing naked pics of women who didnt consent to other politicians IN THE HOUSE FLOOR.... see the double standard?

this shit is why trump or someone worse (cotton? Hawley?) will be back on 2024 and we will become a racial ethnostate, maybe 2028 at the latest.

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TheRealDill2000
04/10/21 10:51:48 AM
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SPE posted...
this shit is why trump or someone worse (cotton? Hawley?) will be back on 2024 and we will become a racial ethnostate, maybe 2028 at the latest.

Trump has a charisma and charm that the other "contenders" can't match. If Trump doesn't run, the Dems will win in a landslide.
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SPE
04/10/21 10:54:58 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Trump has a charisma and charm that the other "contenders" can't match. If Trump doesn't run, the Dems will win in a landslide.

its hard for a party to win if their voters are not allowed to go to the polls, and laws are being enacted for that purpose, like in GA

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JScriv
04/10/21 10:55:17 AM
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Lockdowns and increased unemployment absolutely lead to increased suicides. The U.S. did minimum lockdowns hence the negligible change. Here in Canada our suicides and overdoses are way up, with suicide and teen help hotlines experiencing a good +300% increase in call volume.

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CruelBuffalo
04/10/21 10:58:34 AM
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JScriv posted...
Lockdowns and increased unemployment absolutely lead to increased suicides. The U.S. did minimum lockdowns hence the negligible change. Here in Canada our suicides and overdoses are way up, with suicide and teen help hotlines experiencing a good +300% increase in call volume.


California and New York both went to heavy lockdowns and together are a big portion of the US population
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Machete
04/10/21 10:59:53 AM
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Literally everything trump has done since being born is criminal
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JScriv
04/10/21 11:04:30 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
California and New York both went to heavy lockdowns and together are a big portion of the US population
Im not familiar with the lockdowns of individual states, but at least here in Ontario, our lockdowns were severe enough to cause an unemployment increase of like 6-7%. We all know that increased unemployment is going to lead to increased suicides and such.

I just think that making claims like lockdowns wont cause increased suicides is a bit nave.

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IMNOTRAGED
04/10/21 11:32:50 AM
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JScriv posted...
Lockdowns and increased unemployment absolutely lead to increased suicides. The U.S. did minimum lockdowns hence the negligible change. Here in Canada our suicides and overdoses are way up, with suicide and teen help hotlines experiencing a good +300% increase in call volume.

Overdoses and hotline calls are up, suicides don't seem to be.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/suicides-alberta-bc-saskatchewan-canada-2020-no-increase-1.5902908

"As someone who studies suicide a lot, I care about distress very much," he said. "But there's not a straight line between distress and suicide."
Various distress centres have reported increased call volumes during the pandemic, but Olson said that can actually have an upside.
"That suggests to us that people are reaching out," he said.
"And that helps offset suicide deaths."

Black said another factor is "a well known phenomenon called the pull-together effect," which has been seen during disasters or other situations where an entire community is affected by a hardship that demands collective action.

"The pull-together is counter-intuitive," Black said. "When we're distressed and we're all trying to do something together for society for the benefit for others, it actually does significantly decrease suicide rates."
A third factor, in Olson's view, is the relatively strong financial and social supports governments in Canada have provided during the pandemic.
He said researchers who issued forecasts and warnings early in the pandemic about the risk of suicide increasing amid public-health restrictions came with a big caveat.

"And the caveat they often often suggested was: 'unless the government intervened with social supports,'" he said.
"That was done, I think, really well in Canada," he said. "So I think that is a major reason why we have seen a decline in suicide rates."

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