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solosnake
04/09/21 9:39:40 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/johnson-johnson-vaccine-georgia-reactions/

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Dark_SilverX
04/09/21 9:40:49 PM
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is J&J shooting mouth wash into people's arms?

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Talib_21
04/10/21 2:17:54 AM
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Man I signed up to get vaccinated next Thursday too

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ADFrench2
04/10/21 2:19:41 AM
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I was wanting J&J due to the one-dose...

But after waiting in line and being in and out in 60 minutes this past week with the 1st dose of Pfizer, I really don't mind going back. It wasn't a bad wait.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:20:26 AM
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fuck this, Im not taking that J&J shit

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Talib_21
04/10/21 2:22:03 AM
#6:


ADFrench2 posted...
I was wanting J&J due to the one-dose...

But after waiting in line and being in and out in 60 minutes this past week with the 1st dose of Pfizer, I really don't mind going back. It wasn't a bad wait.

I have an appointment for next Thursday and its no wait at all, in and out. (Well you gotta sit there for like 20 minutes after the shot) but now Ill just skip it I guess


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ADFrench2
04/10/21 2:23:39 AM
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Talib_21 posted...
I have an appointment for next Thursday and its no wait at all, in and out. (Well you gotta sit there for like 20 minutes after the shot) but now Ill just skip it I guess

I felt like the 15 minute wait was just to calm down the public and reassure us that people are here around and you will be fine. More psychological than anything else.

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PerseusRad
04/10/21 2:23:45 AM
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man I was considering going like Tuesday to get one. I missed a good window for the two-shot ones, so I thought its be a good opportunity.

idk, Ill do more research about whats up cause now Im worried Im letting myself get too scared.

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MrMallard
04/10/21 2:26:33 AM
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I wouldn't trust a Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the bastards probably put asbestos in it.

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Talib_21
04/10/21 2:29:16 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/health/jj-vaccine-slowdown/index.html

Down 84 percent in one week

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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 2:29:17 AM
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I fucking bet AstraZeneca was behind this shit somehow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/politics/johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine.html

Every time something fucked up happens with vaccines you can find their name in the headline.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:32:51 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I fucking bet AstraZeneca was behind this shit somehow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/politics/johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine.html

Every time something fucked up happens with vaccines you can find their name in the headline.

is AstraZeneca supplying anything at all to Pfizer/Moderna or being produced in the same facilities as those? Or did it share assembly plants with just J&J?

This + their 30 million doses they hid from authorities abroad is suspicious af and I dont like it. And I dont care what any fuckin CEman says about it tbh. We need to be asking these questions

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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 2:34:45 AM
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pure_temper posted...
is AstraZeneca supplying anything at all to Pfizer/Moderna or being produced in the same facilities as those? Or did it share assembly plants with just J&J?

AFAIK Pfizer & Moderna have completely independent production lines.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:36:57 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
AFAIK Pfizer & Moderna have completely independent production lines.

Is there any way we can be sure?

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Bio1590
04/10/21 2:39:46 AM
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Cool now proudclad's decided his flavour of this week is "vaccine skeptic"
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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 2:42:14 AM
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pure_temper posted...
Is there any way we can be sure?

100% no because there's no telling what business deals AstraZeneca & JJ have made and haven't disclosed but Pfizer / BioNTech have their own production facilities. Moderna does not but they aren't made in Baltimore. They're made in Massachusetts.

I can't find any evidence that AstraZeneca or JJ are doing anything with vaccines there.

Pfizer however seems to be immune to external fuckery. Any fuck ups that happen with Pfizer will be on them.


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trappedunderice
04/10/21 2:42:55 AM
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If you or someone you know had the covid 19 vaccination in the last year you may be entitled to a compensation.
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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:44:28 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Cool now proudclad's decided his flavour of this week is "vaccine skeptic"

read the news article and shut up lol

And btw i have all my vaccines up to date because ive worked in a NICU before and it was required, youre literally on CE like 5 years later w/ exactly the same views and exactly the same toxic schtick.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:46:07 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
100% no because there's no telling what business deals AstraZeneca & JJ have made and haven't disclosed but Pfizer / BioNTech have their own production facilities. Moderna does not but they aren't made in Baltimore. They're made in Massachusetts.

I can't find any evidence that AstraZeneca or JJ are doing anything with vaccines there.

Pfizer however seems to be immune to external fuckery. Any fuck ups that happen with Pfizer will be on them.

Pfizer and Moderna news seems good at least. I guess it could just be AstraZeneca rushing to market and J&J not even being the mRNA approach that is causing their problems. Time will tell I guess.

do you have any preferences between Moderna/Pfizer?

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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 2:50:03 AM
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pure_temper posted...
Pfizer and Moderna news seems good at least. I guess it could just be AstraZeneca rushing to market and J&J not even being the mRNA approach that is causing their problems. Time will tell I guess.

do you have any preferences between Moderna/Pfizer?

Pfizer seems to be slightly better than Moderna in every category. The side effects are more mild and the wait for the second shot is shorter. Protection is roughly the same.

Edit: and this doesn't matter to the average person but Pfizer has less strict transport / storage needs than Moderna.

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Talib_21
04/10/21 2:52:12 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I fucking bet AstraZeneca was behind this shit somehow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/politics/johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine.html

Every time something fucked up happens with vaccines you can find their name in the headline.

Should I cancel my J&J shot for next Thursday?


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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 2:53:29 AM
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Talib_21 posted...
Should I cancel my J&J shot for next Thursday?
No. Take any vaccine you can get. Even AstraZeneca. Just if you have a choice get Pfizer or Moderna and don't get AstraZeneca unless there's literally nothing else available.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:54:54 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
No. Take any vaccine you can get. Even AstraZeneca. Just if you have a choice get Pfizer or Moderna and don't get AstraZeneca unless there's literally nothing else available.

why not only Pfizer or Moderna? not concerned about J&J and AZ after these incidents?

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Talib_21
04/10/21 2:56:12 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
No. Take any vaccine you can get. Even AstraZeneca. Just if you have a choice get Pfizer or Moderna and don't get AstraZeneca unless there's literally nothing else available.
Well I can probably get the Phizer in a month or so, damn Im torn this sucks. I could have got the Moderna shot back on February but I had a lot going on.

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MrDrMan
04/10/21 2:58:48 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
No. Take any vaccine you can get. Even AstraZeneca. Just if you have a choice get Pfizer or Moderna and don't get AstraZeneca unless there's literally nothing else available.

Fuck that. Im sticking Pfizer or Moderna. It was easy to find available appointments. I was able to find and book an appointment within five minutes.

No reason to settle for Johnson & Johnson at this point.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 2:59:27 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Fuck that. Im sticking Pfizer or Moderna. It was easy to find available appointments. No reason to settle for Johnson & Johnson at this point.

yeah thats my thinking too

no AstraZeneca for me either

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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 3:00:40 AM
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pure_temper posted...
why not only Pfizer or Moderna? not concerned about J&J and AZ after these incidents?

It's a matter of ethics principle not that I don't think the vaccine works. Plus there's no reason to suspect anything weird is happening with JJ. But the cliffs are:

  • JJ lied to people for years about talc and tons of people are getting mesothelioma now because of it.
  • JJ's vaccine itself is only as effective as the first shot of Pfizer / Moderna
  • AstraZeneca lied about vaccine data, and hid 29 million doses from the UK & EU.
  • The wait for the second shot of AstraZeneca is 12 weeks.


These companies shouldn't be supported for ethical reasons. Not because the vaccine is harmful (it isn't as far as I can tell)

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The Popo
04/10/21 3:12:22 AM
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I got the J&J vaccine on Monday. Zero symptoms from it.

Theyre pulling the J&J due to side effects like nausea and feinting, but are the people experiencing these still an incredibly small fraction of all that received the shot?

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Talib_21
04/10/21 3:14:55 AM
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The Popo posted...
I got the J&J vaccine on Monday. Zero symptoms from it.

Theyre pulling the J&J due to side effects like nausea and feinting, but are the people experiencing these still an incredibly small fraction of all that received the shot?
You were good to go? I have an appointment halfway through my shift so Im worried

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UnholyMudcrab
04/10/21 3:17:54 AM
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This seems kinda dumb. A tenth of a percent of people get some side effects we were all told were possible, so it's time to pull it?

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The Popo
04/10/21 3:19:18 AM
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Talib_21 posted...
You were good to go? I have an appointment halfway through my shift so Im worried

Yeah. No symptoms at all. And I just talked to an 85 year old client today while working. Told him I got the J&J on Monday. He said he got that one too, and he had zero symptoms from it.

UnholyMudcrab posted...
This seems kinda dumb. A tenth of a percent of people get some side effects we were all told were possible, so it's time to pull it?

Exactly. One out of a thousand people got nauseous, and the exchange is greatly reducing the odds of a serious illness from Covid.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 12:29:41 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
This seems kinda dumb. A tenth of a percent of people get some side effects we were all told were possible, so it's time to pull it?

We don't know the long-term safety profile of it and enough people saw side effects that it's worth suspending.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 12:31:21 PM
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The Popo posted...
Exactly. One out of a thousand people got nauseous, and the exchange is greatly reducing the odds of a serious illness from Covid.

I mean if you're old enough that covid is a risk for serious illness, then get it if you want it. But hell nah I'm not getting J&J.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-johnson-johnson-talc/johnson-johnson-sets-aside-almost-4-billion-for-talc-verdict-filing-shows-idUSKBN2AN07W

imagine still supporting this company in any way

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ZeroX91
04/10/21 12:34:17 PM
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8/1000 is .8% ....seems a bit like an over reaction but I'm not a statistician

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WingsOfGood
04/10/21 12:37:30 PM
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Yea J&J not the most trustable company.

Remember they put abestos in baby powder which gave people cancer.
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WingsOfGood
04/10/21 12:39:14 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

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Jagr_68
04/10/21 12:40:28 PM
#38:


WingsOfGood posted...
Yea J&J not the most trustable company.

Remember they put abestos in baby powder which gave people (yes including babies cancer and said it wasn't their fault.


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COVxy
04/10/21 12:41:28 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Edit: and this doesn't matter to the average person but Pfizer has less strict transport / storage needs than Moderna.

The opposite is true.

pure_temper posted...
read the news article and shut up lol

You still post about AZ blood clots despite it being explained to you why it's not an actual worry. Not sure you're acting reasonably.

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creativerealms
04/10/21 12:42:24 PM
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It was the one I was the least interested in anyway.

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Vampire_Wreath
04/10/21 12:43:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Pfizer seems to be slightly better than Moderna in every category. The side effects are more mild and the wait for the second shot is shorter. Protection is roughly the same.

Edit: and this doesn't matter to the average person but Pfizer has less strict transport / storage needs than Moderna.

How about you compare and contrast the storage and transport needs, because I thought the Pfizer needed a deep freezer?

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divot1338
04/10/21 12:43:44 PM
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The rate of these claims is in line with the number of people from the clinical trial placebo group who also claimed to have adverse reactions.

This is just bullshit from people who dont want to take the vaccine but know they need to and are upset.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 12:44:09 PM
#43:


COVxy posted...
You still post about AZ blood clots despite it being explained to you why it's not an actual worry. Not sure you're acting reasonably.

I don't post about AZ blood clots. I post about AZ. Fuck that company, they have no credibility and neither does J&J.

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pure_temper
04/10/21 12:44:36 PM
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divot1338 posted...
The rate of these claims is in line with the number of people from the clinical trial placebo group who also claimed to have adverse reactions.

hit me w/ the source and I'll read it

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/10/21 12:45:03 PM
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Gimme dat J&J

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Vampire_Wreath
04/10/21 12:48:01 PM
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I've got to do a presentation comparing Pfizer and Moderna so keep going kids I'll be taking notes

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Tyranthraxus
04/10/21 1:00:39 PM
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Vampire_Wreath posted...
How about you compare and contrast the storage and transport needs, because I thought the Pfizer needed a deep freezer?

Actually I had it mixed up they both require a freezer but Moderna is good for 30 days after thawing while Pfizer is only good for 5.

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COVxy
04/10/21 2:36:38 PM
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pure_temper posted...
I don't post about AZ blood clots. I post about AZ. Fuck that company, they have no credibility and neither does J&J.

You may be able to see how saying "i don't trust AZ" in a topic about blood clot side effects to the AZ vaccine may seem to provide credence to the claim, no?

Tyranthraxus posted...
Actually I had it mixed up they both require a freezer but Moderna is good for 30 days after thawing while Pfizer is only good for 5.

Moderna also only requires -20 freezers, while Pfizer requires -80 freezers.

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solosnake
04/10/21 2:39:08 PM
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COVxy posted...
Moderna also only requires -20 freezers, while Pfizer requires -80 freezers.
I think Pfizer changed that

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Bio1590
04/10/21 3:07:28 PM
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pure_temper posted...


read the news article and shut up lol

And btw i have all my vaccines up to date because ive worked in a NICU before and it was required, youre literally on CE like 5 years later w/ exactly the same views and exactly the same toxic schtick.

My dude you are literally also still "literally on CE like 5 years later" except you now have another garbage gimmick different from the 30 others you've adopted over the years.

and lmao "toxic schtick" yeah okay let's let the guy who literally advocated for the US indiscriminately killing a billion people in the Middle East+surrounding areas via nuclear strikes because at the core of it all he's still a pro-Christian fascist claim other people are "toxic".
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