Current Events > Republicans also raised the smoking age to 21

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In the immortal words of William Wallace: SMALL GOVERNMENT.

really?
Thought it was the democrats

I live in CA tho


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Isn't that good though l? The brain isn't fully developed at 18.

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Drugs are bad

They should all be legal

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armandro posted...

really?
Thought it was the democrats

I live in CA tho

it was not the democrats

Patty_Fleur posted...

Isn't that good though l? The brain isn't fully developed at 18.

afraid to look cool?

How many people actually start smoking at legal age? I'll throw a wild guess out and say 80% of smokers start much earlier.

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https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/health/california-smoking-age-21

oh we did it before the rest of the country
thats why I thought

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If it were me I'd ban it outright, though we all know how that goes. Nothing against people who want to smoke a bit of weed now and then, but cigarettes and cigars are disgusting.

People leaving their cigarette butts all over the ground, makes parking lots look horrible. Even when there is a cigarette receptacle people still toss their smokes on the ground. At least with weed it should decompose over time, though I know nothing about how long that would take.

Guide posted...

How many people actually start smoking at legal age? I'll throw a wild guess out and say 80% of smokers start much earlier.

It's just like anything, there's always ways around. I started smoking at 16, was able to have cigarettes at all times until I was old enough to buy them. Same with beer and liquor at 18. I smoked for nearly 15 years and wound up quitting like 8 years ago or so, but raising the age didn't do a whole lot. If you want to get them, you'll get them.

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Ivany2008 posted...

If it were me I'd ban it outright, though we all know how that goes. Nothing against people who want to smoke a bit of weed now and then, but cigarettes and cigars are disgusting.

People leaving their cigarette butts all over the ground, makes parking lots look horrible. Even when there is a cigarette receptacle people still toss their smokes on the ground. At least with weed it should decompose over time, though I know nothing about how long that would take.

they will start making weed cigarettes with filters in the near future anyway

Robot2600 posted...

they will start making weed cigarettes with filters in the near future anyway

Probably. Or laced with all kinds of crap no one needs in their body.

I feel like we aren't acknowledging that the ethical issue is you should be able to smoke/drink if you are old enough to join the military.

Robot2600 posted...

they will start making weed cigarettes with filters in the near future anyway

EDIT: I feel like we aren't acknowledging that the ethical issue is you should be able to smoke/drink if you are old enough to join the military.

Agreed

Ivany2008 posted...

Probably. Or laced with all kinds of crap no one needs in their body.

Also agreed, like tar and all the chemicals in tobacco cigarettes

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If you're gonna have your drinking age at 21, might as well have your smoking age to match that.

Of course, it's a travesty that you'll let an 18 year old sign their life away to the army and potentially fight and die for their country, but you won't let them have a beer. If they're old enough for battle, they're old enough to have a drink. So either bump that up - which you won't, because a younger and more impressionable audience can be influenced by the military and you're less likely to be swayed by that rhetoric the older you get, and the army needs as many foot soldiers as they can get - or bring the age restrictions down and acknowledge 18 as the start of adulthood.

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nice

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Guide posted...

How many people actually start smoking at legal age? I'll throw a wild guess out and say 80% of smokers start much earlier.

I'm have dorkish tendencies so I didn't start til I was 23

Almost 3 months clean tho B^)

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MrMallard posted...

If you're gonna have your drinking age at 21, might as well have your smoking age to match that.

Of course, it's a travesty that you'll let an 18 year old sign their life away to the army and potentially fight and die for their country, but you won't let them have a beer. If they're old enough for battle, they're old enough to have a drink. So either bump that up - which you won't, because a younger and more impressionable audience can be influenced by the military and you're less likely to be swayed by that rhetoric the older you get, and the army needs as many foot soldiers as they can get - or bring the age restrictions down and acknowledge 18 as the start of adulthood.

To be fair, I don't know if it was at every post, but I was 18 in the active Army at Ft Dix and they let anyone in uniform buy beer at the PX, I was going through a case a week. I agree with your sentiment regardless, but they seemed pretty lax about it at least.

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Old enough to buy a rifle, old enough to join the military, but too young to drink and smoke and rent a car.

bknight posted...

Old enough to buy a rifle, old enough to join the military, but too young to drink and smoke and rent a car.

It makes sense, mostly. An 18 year old making stupid decisions is going to be more useful and cost effective in the military.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

To be fair, I don't know if it was at every post, but I was 18 in the active Army at Ft Dix and they let anyone in uniform buy beer at the PX, I was going through a case a week. I agree with your sentiment regardless, but they seemed pretty lax about it at least.

I'm 95% sure 18-20 year olds can buy beer on base, but only on base.

Or whatever the proper vernacular is, I'll admit I don't know.

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Cigarettes should be banned. If you want to smoke tobacco then grow it yourself or buy the dried leaves and either roll your own or use a pipe

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A smarter way would be to have higher standards and regulations for tobacco production but useless age limits are easier I guess.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

To be fair, I don't know if it was at every post, but I was 18 in the active Army at Ft Dix and they let anyone in uniform buy beer at the PX, I was going through a case a week. I agree with your sentiment regardless, but they seemed pretty lax about it at least.

No one in the army cares. I don't think I've ever heard of a single instance of the UCMJ ever punishing anyone for improper possession of alcohol.

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DrizztLink posted...

I'm 95% sure 18-20 year olds can buy beer on base, but only on base.

Or whatever the proper vernacular is, I'll admit I don't know.

I can respect that.

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I would be fine with making every drug legal except in smoking form.

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Good. It should be even higher imo.

Raise drinking age to 25. Driving age to 21. Remove tax exempt status from religious institutions.

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Flauros posted...

Good. It should be even higher imo.

Raise drinking age to 25. Driving age to 21. Remove tax exempt status from religious institutions.

https://youtu.be/rsRjQDrDnY8

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