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Doom_Art
04/09/21 12:52:29 AM
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I just don't know why you need to keep stretching believability like this. Why is it so hard for you to admit Trump was very well-positioned to pull off something like this?

Heck if it irks you so much you don't even need to say he did it, just that it would've been easy for him to do so lol

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 12:55:10 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What other jobs were they moved to that made this easier?

And this is what I'm talking about lol

New job is irrelevant. You think Trump power to appoint means he can have the guy killed lol.
And Clinton and Bush made the same kinds of appointments. So a dude in the same job has connections when he leaves.
For example, director of cia. He might be retired, but does he have friends who still work there? Did he mentor the guys in charge now?

The irony is you think anyone saying Clinton did it is an idiot, yet the same logic you use to peddle a Trump conspiracy works just the same for them.

It is like you forgot I had a whole list and have told yourself I think Clinton did it. You have begun trolling your own thread.
A self parody.
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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 12:57:37 AM
#54:


Doom_Art posted...
I just don't know why you need to keep stretching believability like this. Why is it so hard for you to admit Trump was very well-positioned to pull off something like this?

Heck if it irks you so much you don't even need to say he did it, just that it would've been easy for him to do so lol

When did I say he wasn't well positioned?

I said he wouldn't care to hide it. He does stuff like this openly. Like one poster said, he would have bragged about.

You are the one thinking a potus is the only one capable then laughing at the idea of other potus being the ones to do it like Bush and Clinton who are better connected then Trump.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 12:58:15 AM
#55:


WingsOfGood posted...
New job is irrelevant.
Then why did you bring it up

WingsOfGood posted...
For example, director of cia. He might be retired, but does he have friends who still work there? Did he mentor the guys in charge now?

So that makes him more likely than the guy who actually works there rn?

wtf is this shit lol

WingsOfGood posted...
have told yourself I think Clinton did it
I mean I didn't really say anything but you certainly seem to think this though

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BrianEno
04/09/21 12:58:27 AM
#56:


Doom_Art posted...
It would certainly make sense given their history together and the fact that he was pretty well positioned at the time to make something like that happen.


Why didn't Democrats bring up Epstein even once during either of Trump's two impeachments?
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 12:59:17 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
You are the one thinking a potus is the only one capable
Not at all, I just it's more likely to have been the guy currently in office and connected than the people who've been out of power for a decade or two ha ha

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 12:59:40 AM
#58:


BrianEno posted...
Why didn't Democrats bring up Epstein even once during either of Trump's two impeachments?
wat

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 12:59:58 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I mean I didn't really say anything but you certainly seem to think this though

Is that why I listed the Queen?

Man, you are truly a top notch thinker.
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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:00:06 AM
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Doom_Art posted...

wat


Do you not understand English? Are you Quebecois or something?
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legendarylemur
04/09/21 1:00:58 AM
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Don't even have to be Trump lol. A lot of people in high public power wanted him dead before they went down with him

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:01:24 AM
#62:


WingsOfGood posted...
Is that why I listed the Queen?
I'm not responsible for your thoughts, my dude.

BrianEno posted...
Do you not understand English? Are you Quebecois or something?
It was just a really dumb post and I wanted to give you a second crack at it to save face before you get banned again tomorrow lol

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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:02:41 AM
#63:


Doom_Art posted...

I'm not responsible for your thoughts, my dude.

It was just a really dumb post and I wanted to give you a second crack at it to save face before you get banned again tomorrow lol


Let me dumb it down for you: If Trump and Epstein were such buddies, why was that never brought up to impeach Trump?
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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:03:09 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Not at all, I just it's more likely to have been the guy currently in office and connected than the people who've been out of power for a decade or two ha ha

Trump wasn't well connected. The people he appointed didn't really like him and many left and turned on him.

Political power is about connections. Bush and Clinton are way better connected in this way than Trump ever was.

But someone like the Royal family or Saudi princes are far better connected than even then.

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:03:33 AM
#65:


I'm just trying to piece together why you think those things are connected

I know you're unfamiliar with how the legal system works, but still

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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:04:58 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
'm just trying to piece together why you think those things are connected


Do you not think being involved in a pedophile sex trafficking ring is an impeachable offense? If it is, why wasn't brought up to impeach Trump? The answer is either:

A. Trump wasn't involved; or

B. Democrats are just as complicit as any Republicans in the Epstein matter.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:05:01 AM
#67:


WingsOfGood posted...
Trump wasn't well connected.
I mean this is just flat out not true.

Maybe it was true in like 2016 and 17 but he otherwise stacked his administration with loyalists for the most part

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:05:05 AM
#68:


Doom_Art posted...
I know you're unfamiliar with how the legal system works, but still

Epstein was killed by the legal system?
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:06:21 AM
#69:


BrianEno posted...
Do you not think being involved in a pedophile sex trafficking ring is an impeachable offense? If it is, why wasn't brought up to impeach Trump? The answer is either:

A. Trump wasn't involved; or

B. Democrats are just as complicit as any Republicans in the Epstein matter.
SMAL this is embarrassing even for you lol

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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:08:20 AM
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You just don't want any pedophiles on your team to go down. I want them all to be exposed and brought to justice regardless of party:

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/ghislaine-maxwell-allegedly-confirms-jeffrey-epstein-secretly-taped-donald-trump-bill-clinton-news.127017.html

Ghislaine Maxwell Confirms Epstein Secretly Taped Donald Trump, Bill Clinton: Report

A former producer revealed in his book that she allegedly told him about the tapes but insisted she doesn't know where they are.

It's believed that many in the upper echelon of society are scrambling as more information about Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein comes to light. The latter's name continues to run through conspiracy theory channels as sleuths attempt to uncover the details behind his alleged suicide and the circumstances surrounding his death. Maxwell, however, is currently incarcerated as she faces accusations that she was Epstein's reported right-hand-woman for his purported sex ring for the rich, wealthy, famous, and powerful that allegedly included private islands designated for politicians and celebrities to sexually assault underage girls.

Former CBS producer Ira Rosen has published a new book titled Ticking Clock: Behind the Scenes at 60 Minutes where he details a conversation he allegedly had with Ghislaine Maxwell back in 2016 ahead of the U.S. presidential election. Rosen claims that at the time, Maxwell admitted that Epstein had secret tapes of his famous friends, including then-presidential candidate Donald Trump, as well as former White House couple Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Rosen says that in early 2016 he asked Maxwell, "I want the tapes. I know he [Epstein] was videotaping everyone and I want the tapes of Trump with the girls," Rosen claims he said. Maxwell was supporting Hillary Clinton's bid for president at the time and refused to help him. "She gave me a stern look and pointed a finger in my face. She said: 'I am the daughter of a press baron. I know the way you people think. If you do one side, you must do the other. If you get the tapes on Trump you have to do Clinton.'"

Maxwell also reportedly insisted that she didn't know where the tapes were, just that they exist. Rosen also writes in his book that two years prior, Maxwell propositioned him and told him if he slept with her she would tell him all of her father's secrets. He claims he refused her offer...

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:08:36 AM
#71:


Doom_Art posted...
I mean this is just flat out not true.

Maybe it was true in like 2016 and 17 but he otherwise stacked his administration with loyalists for the most part

Who were Trump's big connections hmm? Bet you can't and won't answer.

Didn't the intelligence community aka the government paid black ops assasins hate him cause he mocked them?
And he said he was smarter than the big military generals.
Oh! But asks them to kill a dude cause that dude has dirt on him and they totally do it for him.

You didn't think this through very well.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:09:26 AM
#72:


Bold of you to assume I give a shit about Bill Clinton

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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:10:13 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Bold of you to assume I give a shit about Bill Clinton


Bold of you to assume any Americans give a fuck about Canadians.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:10:58 AM
#74:


WingsOfGood posted...
Who were Trump's big connections hmm? Bet you can't and won't answer.
"People he appointed and who owe him favors"

Essentially the same quality of answer you provided to me when I asked you the same question lol


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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:11:33 AM
#75:


BrianEno posted...
Bold of you to assume any Americans give a fuck about Canadians.
Iunno where I said that lol

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:11:50 AM
#76:


Doom_Art posted...
"People he appointed and who owe him favors"

Essentially the same quality of answer you provided to me when I asked you the same question lol

What people? Who are these people exactly mr.conspiracy theorist?
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coh
04/09/21 1:12:06 AM
#77:


It was the Clintons
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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:12:47 AM
#78:


Speaking of Canadians:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-nygard-idUSKBN28P2IP

WINNIPEG, Manitoba/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Canadian fashion mogul Peter Nygard was charged on Tuesday with sex trafficking, racketeering and other crimes targeting dozens of women and underage girls over a quarter century in three countries, U.S. authorities said.

Canadian police arrested Nygard in Winnipeg, Manitoba, on Monday at the U.S. governments request under the countries extradition treaty.

Acting U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss in Manhattan said Nygard, 79, had since 1995 used his influence and businesses to recruit and maintain victims in the United States, Canada and the Bahamas to sexually gratify himself and his associates...

...Nygard wore a white face mask, a gray sweatshirt and sweatpants, with his long white hair pulled back in a bun, at an initial appearance in a Winnipeg courtroom.

He was led away while wearing handcuffs and leg chains. Nygard plans to seek bail, and his next scheduled hearing is on Jan. 13, 2021.

Nygard also faces class-action civil litigation in Manhattan by 57 unnamed women accusing him of sexual misconduct. He has denied wrongdoing.

Born in Finland, Nygard grew up in Manitoba, eventually running his own namesake clothing companies and becoming one of Canadas wealthiest people.

Authorities said that victims were assaulted by Nygard or his associates, with some drugged to ensure they met his sexual demands, and that Nygard often targeted victims who came from disadvantaged backgrounds or had suffered abuse.

The nine-count indictment said Nygard used multiple means to recruit victims.

These allegedly included company-funded Pamper Parties named for their free food, drink and spa services, and held at his properties in Marina del Rey in California and the Bahamas.

The indictment said Nygard took some victims - he called them girlfriends - to swingers clubs where they would be intimidated into having sex with other men, to facilitate Nygard having sex with other women and for his own sexual gratification.

Nygard also used threats of arrest, reputational harm and lawsuits to silence potential accusers, the indictment said.

In February, Nygard stepped down as chairman of Nygard International after its New York headquarters near Times Square was raided by the FBI.

The company filed for bankruptcy in March.

Nygard has also been embroiled in a decade-long feud, including defamation claims and other litigation, with billionaire hedge fund manager Louis Bacon, who owns an adjacent property in a gated Bahamas community.


And:

https://youtu.be/Rj4Tl850GxA
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:13:15 AM
#79:


WingsOfGood posted...
What people? Who are these people exactly mr.conspiracy theorist?
Exactly, I'm still waiting on that answer from you lol

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:14:39 AM
#80:


Doom_Art posted...
Exactly, I'm still waiting on that answer from you lol

You are the one who said it first.

You are not waiting on an answer from me, you attacked your own argument as to why you are a conspiracy theorist who thinks Trump did it and was the most well positioned.

Now you refuse to say who exactly you believe he appointed that made him that.

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:16:11 AM
#81:


WingsOfGood posted...
You are not waiting on an answer from me
I am though

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darkphoenix181
04/09/21 1:17:11 AM
#82:


TC making a pathetic attempt as usual.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:18:03 AM
#83:


I'm just saying the lengths to which some of y'all will go to defend Trump is just plain weird, that's all

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Patty_Fleur
04/09/21 1:20:00 AM
#84:


What if he actually just committed suicide?

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:20:06 AM
#85:


Doom_Art posted...
I am though

Post 33.

You brought up appointments.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79395648/952629168

Doom_Art said
The Bushes are certainly influential politically but it takes a pretty large heaping of stupid to think that they or the Clintons are more capable of assassinating a prisoner than the guy who appointed the heads of just about every law enforcement agency lol


Yet you cannot name who he appointed who could pull this off.

Hmmmmm
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BrianEno
04/09/21 1:20:54 AM
#86:


Patty_Fleur posted...
What if he actually just committed suicide?


At the exact moment the cameras malfunctioned? Sure. Why not.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:21:03 AM
#87:


WingsOfGood posted...
Yet you cannot name who he appointed who could pull this off.
You literally quoted it.

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:21:59 AM
#88:


Doom_Art posted...
You literally quoted it.

So you refuse to backup your argument?

Are you now agreeing Trump did not appoint anyone who could have pulled this off?
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Patty_Fleur
04/09/21 1:22:32 AM
#89:


BrianEno posted...
At the exact moment the cameras malfunctioned? Sure. Why not.

Oh. I didn't know that.

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:22:35 AM
#90:


WingsOfGood posted...
So you refuse to backup your argument?
Hey I mentioned specific individuals, which you have yet to do


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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:23:02 AM
#91:


Lol why you following me. Just cause I school you in an argument no reason to get emotional.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:23:41 AM
#92:


What are you talking about lol

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darkphoenix181
04/09/21 1:29:03 AM
#93:


Doom_Art posted...
Hey I mentioned specific individuals, which you have yet to do

This actually makes me curious, where do you think you had done this? Don't see you dropping any names ITT. Maybe you should name them so we can arrest them. Trump may be out of office but maybe his loyalist is not.
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foreverzero212
04/09/21 1:29:58 AM
#94:


Doom_Art posted...
Who would have been more powerful than the President?
> The president is the most powerful person in the world. So powerful that an incompetent buffoon that has every embarrassing conversation leaked could have a guy like Epstein killed and we'd never know it.

> Guys Biden is just the president, he can't even try to legalize weed or raise the minimum wage, learn how politics works he's a great guy trying his hardest but he has no power.

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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:30:05 AM
#95:


Hey I don't pretend to be a genius my dude, I'm just asking questions and spitballing here.

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:31:10 AM
#96:


Test
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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:31:39 AM
#97:


Tc blocked me. I was unable to post. Real classy.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:32:36 AM
#98:


If I blocked you how are you posting ITT right now lol

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WingsOfGood
04/09/21 1:34:26 AM
#99:


Doom_Art posted...
If I blocked you how are you posting ITT right now lol

You unblocked me?
Idk man, you follow me, then it said I am unable to post ITT.

You just trolling but I bet you really do believe Trump did this is the funny thing.

If you want to be on the level on conspiracy dudes, more power to you.
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Doom_Art
04/09/21 1:35:45 AM
#100:


So you're saying I followed you

Then ignored you

Then blocked you

Then unblocked you for some reason

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04/09/21 1:37:02 AM
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