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scar the 1 03/30/21 6:24:00 AM #1: |
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/02/finland-vaccine-covid-patent-ip
Excerpts: Sakselas team has had a patent-free COVID-19 vaccine ready since May 2020, which they dubbed the Linux of vaccines in a nod to the famous open-source operating system that also originated from Finland. The work is based on publicly available research data and predicated on the principle of sharing all new findings in peer-reviewed journals. tl;dr:
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teep_ 03/30/21 6:27:14 AM #2: |
disgusting
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scar the 1 03/30/21 6:32:11 AM #3: |
The relationship between state and capital exemplified with utmost clarity
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scar the 1 03/30/21 1:32:31 PM #4: |
Bump
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Tyranthraxus 03/30/21 1:33:53 PM #5: |
Angry Karl marx noises
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monkmith 03/30/21 1:38:00 PM #6: |
so who would manufacture the patent free vaccine again?
the actual problem with going for a patent free vaccine is that no pharma company will dedicate their manufacturing line to it, because they're a business and they want money and patent free = less money. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 03/30/21 1:38:22 PM #7: |
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scar the 1 03/30/21 1:58:01 PM #8: |
monkmith posted...
so who would manufacture the patent free vaccine again?Well if that's truly the case, maybe countries should unionize in some way so they are in a better bargaining position, in lieu of developing their own manufacturing lines. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 03/30/21 2:00:33 PM #9: |
So this one prevents the virus from replicating while the others dont?
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monkmith 03/30/21 2:21:42 PM #10: |
scar the 1 posted...
Well if that's truly the case, maybe countries should unionize in some way so they are in a better bargaining position, in lieu of developing their own manufacturing lines.sure, but that's not something that happens over night. the only way we were going to get a vaccine in a timely manner was to work through big pharma since they're the ones that control the production, the alternative would have been a few years of legislating instead of vaccine production, or just the government seizing the production facilities; neither of which would have ended well. but here's the thing. a patent free vaccine still has significant use now. covid isn't going away, its going to become a seasonal virus like the flu, so vaccine production is going to have to continue for the foreseeable future. but with a patent free vaccine and a few years of time to build production you could easily see smaller companies step up. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 03/30/21 2:26:00 PM #11: |
monkmith posted...
so who would manufacture the patent free vaccine again? The same companies that manufactory generic drugs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 03/30/21 2:29:01 PM #12: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
So this one prevents the virus from replicating while the others dont?that's what the article claims, but they dont list the study they draw that claim from and i'm guessing since its a poorly funded patent free vaccine it was a small one and might not be reliable. it doesn't make much sense, seeing that while the delivery mechanism is different the end result, immune response to the spike protein, is the same. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 03/30/21 2:30:37 PM #13: |
JE19426 posted...
The same companies that manufactory generic drugs.yes i'm sure the wal-letin production line can be swapped over to producing live viral cultures... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 03/30/21 2:31:43 PM #14: |
I'm sure jacobin has an objective take on this story
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JE19426 03/30/21 2:45:47 PM #15: |
monkmith posted...
yes i'm sure the wal-letin production line can be swapped over to producing live viral cultures... Damn, if only they were multi-billion dollar companies able to build new production lines, oh wait they are. Also the vaccine doesn't use live viral cultures. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 03/30/21 3:33:25 PM #16: |
JE19426 posted...
Damn, if only they were multi-billion dollar companies able to build new production lines,so what you're saying is they should have just waited a year for them to build said lines? that's a worse solution the the trump administrations... JE19426 posted... Also the vaccine doesn't use live viral cultures.The Finnish vaccine uses an adenovirus to carry the genetic instructions for synthesizing the spike protein. https://www.futurity.org/mrna-vaccines-adenovirus-covid-19-2489252/ please read up on the subject before you correct me about this thanks. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 03/30/21 3:36:54 PM #17: |
Guillotines are the only answer here.
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JE19426 03/30/21 3:37:09 PM #18: |
monkmith posted...
so what you're saying is they should have just waited a year for them to build said lines? Nope. that's a worse solution the the trump administrations... What the hell does the Trump administration have to do with this? Are you seriously trolling or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 03/30/21 5:05:17 PM #19: |
Even if we are to buy the premise that we are at the complete mercy of big pharma (which I'm not necessarily buying), I don't think it changes much. If anything, it's an even stronger indication that things need to change.
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