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coh
03/23/21 2:29:17 PM
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https://english.pravda.ru/opinion/123335-americans_guns/

For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or "talking to them", it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?

No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.


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Turbam
03/23/21 2:29:41 PM
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I don't have any guns

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ohiostate124
03/23/21 2:29:57 PM
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BeyondWalls
03/23/21 2:31:15 PM
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Gobstoppers12
03/23/21 2:31:20 PM
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The constitution gives me the right to bear arms, so I'm gonna.

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Delirious_Beard
03/23/21 2:32:00 PM
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TC you're a really bad poster. just wanted to let you know

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The Trent
03/23/21 2:32:25 PM
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why would i give up my guns

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:33:10 PM
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tldr; herp derp freedom
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pure_temper
03/23/21 2:34:19 PM
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We must never give up the 2nd Amendment. I immediately lose respect for anyone who attempts it with weasel words like "assault weapons" for what it is worth to anyone here.

Because it suggests someone lacks knowledge of 1) what the real problems are 2) America's long history of gun ownership and 3) what happens when the People become the State's bitch (see Hong Kong)

We must never allow that to happen here and we won't. Fuck that. (And on that note: Free Hong Kong, free Xinjiang, free Tibet.)

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KINDERFELD
03/23/21 2:35:18 PM
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Yup lets get more like that shithole Russia.

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Machete
03/23/21 2:36:38 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
The constitution gives me the right to bear arms, so I'm gonna.


You're the tupe of person who is extremely likely to seriously injure yourself and/or others by accident as a result of firearm operation incompetence.
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Frizzurd
03/23/21 2:37:06 PM
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so these gun nuts are fine with minorities open carrying as well right? ....and the idea that rednecks can fight the government's forces while also having funded the military industrial complex lol

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KINDERFELD
03/23/21 2:37:57 PM
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Frizzurd posted...
so these 2nd Amendment folk are fine with minorities open carrying as well right? lol

They're praying for more of them to carry so they can gun them down and claim self-defense.

There is data that shows, the more racist your views, the higher the likelihood of you owning a gun.

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ThanksUglyGod
03/23/21 2:37:59 PM
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You can take away my right to vote
You can take away my right to assemble
But come for my guns and there will be HELL to pay
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ohiostate124
03/23/21 2:38:04 PM
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Frizzurd posted...
so these 2nd Amendment folk are fine with minorities open carrying as well right? lol
Yes?
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RustyFerret
03/23/21 2:38:30 PM
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Frizzurd posted...
so these 2nd Amendment folk are fine with minorities open carrying as well right? lol
Gun control is historically racist, good point.
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seankimberley42
03/23/21 2:40:00 PM
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
  • States with more guns have more gun deaths
  • Developed countries with more guns also have more gun deaths
  • America is an outlier when it comes to gun deaths, but not overall crime
  • States with tighter gun control laws have fewer gun-related deaths
  • The states with the most guns report the most suicides and policies that limit access to guns have decreased suicides
  • In states with more guns, more police officers are also killed on duty
  • Americans make up less than 5 percent of the worlds population, yet they own roughly 45 percent of all the worlds privately held firearms.


https://lawcenter.giffords.org/facts/gun-violence-statistics/

  • Access to a gun doubles the risk of homicide
  • Unintentional shootings comprise 1.3% of gun deaths and 18% of gun injuries.33
  • Living in a home with a firearm significantly increases the risk of death by an unintentional gunshot injury
  • 1,500 children are shot and killed each year.
  • Gun violence is the second-leading cause of death among children overall and the first-leading cause of death among black children
  • Every year, 600 American women are shot to death by intimate partners.51 Of all women murdered with a gun in the US, half are killed by their intimate partners.
  • When an abuser has access to a gun, a domestic violence victim is five times more likely to be killed
  • In 2017, gun deaths reached their highest level in at least 40 years, with 39,773 deaths that year alone.
  • Gun deaths increased by 16% from 2014 to 2017
  • The ten states with the highest gun death rates have some of the weakest gun laws in the nation.
  • Americans are 25 times more likely to die from gun violence than residents of peer nations.
  • Gun homicides have increased over 30% since 2014.
  • Gun violence costs over 229 billion every year.


https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/reports/2017/10/05/440373/myth-vs-fact-debunking-gun-lobbys-favorite-talking-points/

  • An FBI study of 160 active-shooting incidents from 2000 to 2013 found that only one was stopped by an individual with a valid firearms permit. In contrast, 21 incidents were stopped by unarmed citizens
  • Expansive concealed carry permitting laws are linked to an increase in violent crime. A 2017 study by researchers at Stanford University found that, 10 years after enacting these laws, states experienced a 13 percent to 15 percent rise in violent crimes
  • Using a gun for defense during a robbery has no significant benefits. A 2015 analysis by researchers at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health of the National Crime Victimization Survey found that the likelihood of sustaining an injury during a robbery was nearly identical between people who attempted to defend themselves with a gun and those who took no defensive action.
  • A gun is more likely to be stolen than used to stop a crime. According to a CAP analysis of the National Crime Victimization Survey, guns are nearly twice as likely to be stolen than to be used for self-defense


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/01/defensive-gun-ownership-myth-114262
  • the Good Guy With A Gun is a myth and the one study claiming guns stopped hundreds of thousands of crimes was debunked
But sure, keep on holding those guns in a death grip.

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Gobstoppers12
03/23/21 2:40:15 PM
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Machete posted...
You're the tupe of person who is extremely likely to seriously injure yourself and/or others by accident as a result of firearm operation incompetence.
Based on what evidence?

I've had a gun for over ten years. What makes you think I'm incapable of handling it?

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Funkydog
03/23/21 2:40:37 PM
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One day America will be able to have a sensible talk about gun control/restriction and who gets access to them, but this century isn't it.

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The Trent
03/23/21 2:41:14 PM
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guns are fucking dope, we don't need to bring numbers and studies into it to know that

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slmcknett
03/23/21 2:41:33 PM
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People def shouldn't be able to just own AR-15s.

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ohiostate124
03/23/21 2:42:00 PM
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slmcknett posted...
People def shouldn't be able to just own AR-15s.
Why not? Do you even know what an ar15 is?
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Gobstoppers12
03/23/21 2:42:14 PM
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seankimberley42 posted...
But sure, keep on holding those guns in a death grip.
Okay. I will.

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:42:18 PM
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what exactly is the 2nd amendment?
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Dark_SilverX
03/23/21 2:42:43 PM
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It's time for Americans to give up their guns so we can be equal with the rest of the world.

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The Trent
03/23/21 2:42:50 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
what exactly is the 2nd amendment?

you have the right to shoot bullets into the air on new year's eve and cinco de mayo

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SPE
03/23/21 2:43:07 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
The constitution gives me the right to bear arms, so I'm gonna.

@Gobstoppers12

so can you walk around with a hand grenade and a bazooka?

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Machete
03/23/21 2:43:51 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Based on what evidence?

I've had a gun for over ten years. What makes you think I'm incapable of handling it?


You are gobstoppers12
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Reis
03/23/21 2:43:56 PM
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i concur, imagine being a minority in america and not wanting to be armed when all these white supremacists are so emboldened
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Gobstoppers12
03/23/21 2:44:18 PM
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SPE posted...
@Gobstoppers12

so can you walk around with a hand grenade and a bazooka?
If I've got the right ownership permits.

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Eyeratosthenes
03/23/21 2:44:42 PM
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oh if i had guns i'd give them up so hard

give em up. instead of stick em up i say give em up, with respect to myself

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Machete
03/23/21 2:44:52 PM
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ohiostate124 posted...

Why not? Do you even know what an ar15 is?


Why does that particular gun make so much blood rush to so many people's small malformed genitalia?
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pure_temper
03/23/21 2:44:52 PM
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Reis posted...
i concur, imagine being a minority in america and not wanting to be armed when all these white supremacists are so emboldened

I mean you may be saying this as a joke but it's literally true. Exercise your rights. I know I do.

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:45:09 PM
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do you need a permit to own a gun in the USA?
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ohiostate124
03/23/21 2:45:34 PM
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Machete posted...
Why does that particular gun make so much blood rush to so many people's small malformed genitalia?
Idk but they sure do have a boner for trying to ban them when they dont even understand anything about them.
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SPE
03/23/21 2:45:51 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
If I've got the right ownership permits.

citation needed.

bazooka permit? U kidding bro? Lol

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Gobstoppers12
03/23/21 2:45:55 PM
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Machete posted...
You are gobstoppers12
Okay.

What evidence is there that Gobstoppers12 is an unsafe gun owner?

I present evidence that he has owned a gun for ten years and handled it without incident hundreds of times. What's your counter? Be specific.

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The Trent
03/23/21 2:46:07 PM
#40:


ROOTFayth posted...
do you need a permit to own a gun in the USA?

FUCK no

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:47:01 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Okay.

What evidence is there that Gobstoppers12 is an unsafe gun owner?

I present evidence that he has owned a gun for ten years and handled it without incident hundreds of times. What's your counter? Be specific.
why the hell would you need to handle your gun hundreds of time, do you hunt or something?
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Malcrasternus
03/23/21 2:47:17 PM
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Funkydog posted...
One day America will be able to have a sensible talk about gun control/restriction and who gets access to them, but this century isn't it.

Literally thousands of gun laws on the federal and individual state level already, yet we do nothing about making mental health and healthcare in general free and available to all who need it like the rest of the developed world has. Or plan so far is to just shove more pills down people's throats and charge them at triple digit markup.

slmcknett posted...
People def shouldn't be able to just own AR-15s.

The most popular rifle in America doesn't even account a full percent of overall causes of deaths. More people are killed by hands and feet than rifles of all types.

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:47:21 PM
#43:


The Trent posted...
FUCK no
hahahahaha this is ridiculous
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The Trent
03/23/21 2:47:23 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
why the hell would you need to handle your gun hundreds of time, do you hunt or something?

do it for the gram

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Zikten
03/23/21 2:47:36 PM
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I wouldn't mind gun bans. But if we have to have guns there is no reason for citizens to have anything other than shotguns and pistols
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The Trent
03/23/21 2:47:39 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
hahahahaha this is ridiculous

land of the gun baby

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pure_temper
03/23/21 2:48:03 PM
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We can give up our guns as soon as authorities and corporations stop building Black Mirror surveillance bots/drones.

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ROOTFayth
03/23/21 2:48:36 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
The most popular rifle in America doesn't even account a full percent of overall causes of deaths. More people are killed by hands and feet than rifles of all types.
I mean probably because there are WAY MORE hands and feets in the USA than fuckin AR-15s
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Eyeratosthenes
03/23/21 2:48:42 PM
#49:


Zikten posted...
I wouldn't mind gun bans. But if we have to have guns there is no reason for citizens to have anything other than shotguns and pistols
have you seen rambo 5

what if 40 juarez cartel guys attack your farm? you'd look pretty stupid with just a shotgun, wouldnt you?

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Orchestrion
03/23/21 2:48:44 PM
#50:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Okay.

What evidence is there that Gobstoppers12 is an unsafe gun owner?

I present evidence that he has owned a gun for ten years and handled it without incident hundreds of times. What's your counter? Be specific.

i think its less about harm to yourself and more about being concerned youre a gun owner given the racist horseshit youve been spewing on this site for years.


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pure_temper
03/23/21 2:49:39 PM
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Zikten posted...
I wouldn't mind gun bans. But if we have to have guns there is no reason for citizens to have anything other than shotguns and pistols

no one cares, also at this rate ill gladly vote against whoever you are voting for if this is the view you wish to have when Hong Kongs freedoms literally just got seized in plain view and when authorities and big corps are building surveillance bots/drones

you see AOCs tweet about the surveillance bot patrolling low income communities? What happens when they have bots with shoulder-mounted turrets and drones that can follow you into buildings?

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