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ZannoL 03/13/21 10:53:43 AM #1:	https://fxn.ws/38BLloS House Republicans are protesting the inclusion of several books on the Navy's 2021 reading list. Republican Reps. Doug Lamborn of Colorado and Vicky Hartzler of Missouri on Thursday evening sent a letter to Adm. Michael Gilday expressing concern about the inclusion of the following books on the Chief of Naval Operations Professional Reading Program (CNO-PRP) reading list: Ibram X. Kendi's "How to be an Antiracist," Michelle Alexander's "The New Jim Crow" and Jason Pierceson's "Sexual Minorities and Politics." Is anyone even surprised at this? <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951666703] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>https://fxn.ws/38BLloS <quote>House Republicans are protesting the inclusion of several books on the Navy's 2021 reading list. Republican Reps. Doug Lamborn of Colorado and Vicky Hartzler of Missouri on Thursday evening sent a letter to Adm. Michael Gilday expressing concern about the inclusion of the following books on the Chief of Naval Operations Professional Reading Program (CNO-PRP) reading list: Ibram X. Kendi's "How to be an Antiracist," Michelle Alexander's "The New Jim Crow" and Jason Pierceson's "Sexual Minorities and Politics."</quote> Is anyone even surprised at this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 10:56:25 AM #2:	So their argument is... "these books highlight oppression and we don't think we should be discussing that? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951666770] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>So their argument is... "these books highlight oppression and we don't think we should be discussing that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/13/21 10:56:43 AM #3:	Ruvan22 posted... So their argument is... "these books highlight oppression and we don't think we should be discussing that? They want people to remain as ignorant as possible. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951666783] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>So their argument is... "these books highlight oppression and we don't think we should be discussing that?</quote>They want people to remain as ignorant as possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 03/13/21 10:58:14 AM #5:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... The military has homework? Basically just a list of recommended books. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951666828] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... </cite> <quote>The military has homework?</quote>Basically just a list of recommended books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 03/13/21 10:58:50 AM #6:	If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:951666840] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 03/13/21 10:59:23 AM #7:	But I thought brainwashing only happened under communism --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:951666856] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>But I thought brainwashing only happened under communism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 03/13/21 11:42:40 AM #8:	Vicious_Dios posted... If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service. And yet here we are. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:951667925] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service.</quote>And yet here we are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/13/21 11:45:48 AM #9:	Vicious_Dios posted... If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service. We're talking about the military here, so, yes, duh --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951668034] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>If you need books to teach you that racism is bad then you have other problems you need to rectify before signing up for service.</quote>We're talking about the military here, so, yes, duh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:54:18 AM #10:	it sounds like they don't want the military to be a vehicle for left-wing racism, sounds fair, racism and militaries are a bad mix <cite>mft1 posted [p:951668271] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>it sounds like they don't want the military to be a vehicle for left-wing racism, sounds fair, racism and militaries are a bad mix </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 2:00:59 PM #11:	mft1 posted... it sounds like they don't want the military to be a vehicle for left-wing racism, sounds fair, racism and militaries are a bad mix How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951671784] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>it sounds like they don't want the military to be a vehicle for left-wing racism, sounds fair, racism and militaries are a bad mix</quote> How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 2:03:23 PM #12:	Ruvan22 posted... How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"? Don't try to think about it too hard. These people get offended if someone says "Be a good person" because they view that as subliminal anti-white rhetoric. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951671854] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"?</quote>Don't try to think about it too hard. These people get offended if someone says "Be a good person" because they view that as subliminal anti-white rhetoric. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 4:01:57 PM #13:	Ruvan22 posted... How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"? None of those book titles sound like "acknowledging racism exists", they're critical race theory texts. <cite>mft1 posted [p:951675365] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>How is acknowledging racism existed/exits "left wing racism"?</quote>None of those book titles sound like "acknowledging racism exists", they're critical race theory texts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/13/21 4:03:14 PM #14:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... The military has homework? If you want to make it a career, there is a plethora of things that will take up your free time. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:951675403] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... </cite> <quote>The military has homework?</quote>If you want to make it a career, there is a plethora of things that will take up your free time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 03/13/21 4:20:06 PM #16:	mft1 posted... None of those book titles sound like "acknowledging racism exists", they're critical race theory texts. Maybe you didn't read the titles? https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509283 https://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595586431 https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Minorities-Politics-Jason-Pierceson/dp/1442227699 They are all acknowledging that racism and prejudice exist, and (per the definition of CRT), "seek to critically examine the law as it intersects with issues of race, and to challenge mainstream liberal approaches to racial justice.[1] CRT examines social and cultural issues as they relate to race, law, and social and political power." So yes, they are examples of it - are you saying CRT and seeking to understand how racism came to be and how it is maintained is a bad thing? Or (in your words) "left wing racism"? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951675893] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>None of those book titles sound like "acknowledging racism exists", they're critical race theory texts.</quote> Maybe you didn't read the titles? https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509283 https://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595586431 https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Minorities-Politics-Jason-Pierceson/dp/1442227699 They are all acknowledging that racism and prejudice exist, and (per the definition of CRT), "seek to critically examine the law as it intersects with issues of race, and to challenge mainstream liberal approaches to racial justice.[1] CRT examines social and cultural issues as they relate to race, law, and social and political power." So yes, they are examples of it - are you saying CRT and seeking to understand how racism came to be and how it is maintained is a bad thing? Or (in your words) "left wing racism"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 03/13/21 4:21:30 PM #17:	The same people who spent the past week yelling censorship over Dr. Suess --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:951675936] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>The same people who spent the past week yelling censorship over Dr. Suess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 03/13/21 4:22:34 PM #18:	Brainwashing <cite>coh posted [p:951675974] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Brainwashing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/13/21 4:25:37 PM #19:	antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:951676063] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 03/13/21 4:30:11 PM #20:	And I'm sure more people in the military are gonna be reading some shit like The Turner Diaries --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:951676189] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>And I'm sure more people in the military are gonna be reading some shit like The Turner Diaries </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/13/21 4:31:56 PM #21:	Blue_Dream87 posted... And I'm sure more people in the military are gonna be reading some shit like The Turner Diaries Brave of you to assume we actually read things. 99% of us didn't even read our contracts that we signed --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:951676247] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted... </cite> <quote>And I'm sure more people in the military are gonna be reading some shit like The Turner Diaries</quote>Brave of you to assume we actually read things. 99% of us didn't even read our contracts that we signed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 4:32:22 PM #22:	ledbowman posted... antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree Imagine being offended by antiracism. You're telling on yourself again. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951676263] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree</quote>Imagine being offended by antiracism. You're telling on yourself again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/13/21 4:36:55 PM #23:	not offended i just think its dumb --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:951676411] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>not offended i just think its dumb </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 03/13/21 4:37:48 PM #24:	ledbowman posted... antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree so you are pro-racism them. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:951676439] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>antiracism is moronic so i guess i agree</quote> so you are pro-racism them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 4:37:58 PM #25:	ledbowman posted... not offended i just think its dumb So.. how to be aware of racism and work again it shouldn't be talked about? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951676441] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>not offended i just think its dumb</quote> So.. how to be aware of racism and work again it shouldn't be talked about? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/13/21 4:47:07 PM #26:	i'm just realistic that having prejudices is part of having a human mind instead of buying into some masturbatory over intellectualized way of saying we should treat each other equally --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:951676714] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>i'm just realistic that having prejudices is part of having a human mind instead of buying into some masturbatory over intellectualized way of saying we should treat each other equally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 4:49:02 PM #27:	ledbowman posted... i'm just realistic that having prejudices is part of having a human mind instead of buying into some masturbatory over intellectualized way of saying we should treat each other equally So you feel these prejudices that are built in can't be changed? Despite society now versus 60 years ago? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951676772] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>i'm just realistic that having prejudices is part of having a human mind instead of buying into some masturbatory over intellectualized way of saying we should treat each other equally</quote> So you feel these prejudices that are built in can't be changed? Despite society now versus 60 years ago? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/13/21 4:51:54 PM #28:	Ruvan22 posted... So you feel these prejudices that are built in can't be changed? Despite society now versus 60 years ago? the prejudices are still there --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:951676864] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>So you feel these prejudices that are built in can't be changed? Despite society now versus 60 years ago?</quote>the prejudices are still there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 4:53:40 PM #29:	"Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951676911] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>"Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 4:53:43 PM #30:	ledbowman posted... the prejudices are still there I asked if you felt they can't be/haven't changed. Do you feel society has made no change and thus we just give up? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951676913] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>the prejudices are still there</quote> I asked if you felt they can't be/haven't changed. Do you feel society has made no change and thus we just give up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 03/13/21 4:54:49 PM #31:	To be fair, any sailor can still read any book they want. And I couldn't say I've met any who would know what books are on the CNO's recommended reading list at all. <cite>Esrac posted [p:951676946] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, any sailor can still read any book they want. And I couldn't say I've met any who would know what books are on the CNO's recommended reading list at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 03/13/21 4:55:53 PM #32:	I tried The New Jim Crow, couldn't get into it. --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:951676981] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>I tried The New Jim Crow, couldn't get into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/13/21 4:59:32 PM #33:	Books like "How to be an Antiracist" are actually quite problematic. They literally advocate discrimination and make arguments like "it is impossible to not be racist." It's not good to have dumb books (even ones that claim noble goals) pushed onto people. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951677081] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Books like "How to be an Antiracist" are actually quite problematic. They literally advocate discrimination and make arguments like "it is impossible to not be racist." It's not good to have dumb books (even ones that claim noble goals) pushed onto people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/13/21 5:01:10 PM #34:	joe40001 posted... Books like "How to be an Antiracist" are actually quite problematic. They literally advocate discrimination and make arguments like "it is impossible to not be racist." It's not good to have dumb books (even ones that claim noble goals) pushed onto people. I skimmed the description on Amazon and while I saw the latter I didn't see the former - where did it say advocate discrimination? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951677126] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Books like "How to be an Antiracist" are actually quite problematic. They literally advocate discrimination and make arguments like "it is impossible to not be racist." It's not good to have dumb books (even ones that claim noble goals) pushed onto people.</quote> I skimmed the description on Amazon and while I saw the latter I didn't see the former - where did it say advocate discrimination? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/13/21 5:01:41 PM #35:	hockeybub89 posted... "Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over". Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951677151] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over".</quote> Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 03/13/21 5:06:59 PM #36:	joe40001 posted... Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right? "society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist" --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:951677312] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right?</quote>"society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 5:07:17 PM #37:	joe40001 posted... Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right? How could anyone learn to not be racist if everyone will always be racist? Are the books really invalidating themselves like that? That would be like if the KKK wrote a book "How To Be Racist" and opened with "No one is racist and non-whites are deserving of respect." You may be reading wrong. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951677322] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Huh, I actually agree with you. You acknowledge that that is the thesis in books like "how to be an anti-racist" right?</quote>How could anyone learn to not be racist if everyone will always be racist? Are the books really invalidating themselves like that? That would be like if the KKK wrote a book "How To Be Racist" and opened with "No one is racist and non-whites are deserving of respect." You may be reading wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/13/21 5:07:36 PM #38:	Ruvan22 posted... I skimmed the description on Amazon and while I saw the latter I didn't see the former - where did it say advocate discrimination? I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951677330] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>I skimmed the description on Amazon and while I saw the latter I didn't see the former - where did it say advocate discrimination?</quote> I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 03/13/21 5:09:19 PM #40:	joe40001 posted... I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances. What are the examples they give? Affirmative action? Feel free to post the quote when you find it Are the other two books also "problematic" iyo? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951677384] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances.</quote> What are the examples they give? Affirmative action? Feel free to post the quote when you find it Are the other two books also "problematic" iyo? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 5:09:27 PM #41:	averagejoel posted... "society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist" so when will racism be over <cite>mft1 posted [p:951677389] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>"society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist"</quote>so when will racism be over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 5:09:39 PM #42:	joe40001 posted... I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances. Technically, banning murder and pedophilia is discrimination, but I doubt you'd make the argument in a discussion on those topics. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951677396] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's something like "the only way to fight racist discrimination is with anti-racist discrimination" basically saying discrimination is a good thing if it in service of correcting representation imbalances.</quote>Technically, banning murder and pedophilia is discrimination, but I doubt you'd make the argument in a discussion on those topics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/13/21 5:10:18 PM #43:	averagejoel posted... "society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist" No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: There is no in-between safe space of not racist. Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism. There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist. The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951677417] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>"society is racist and that societal racism has an effect on the people raised in society" is not the same as "everyone is always going to be racist"</quote> No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: There is no in-between safe space of not racist.Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism.There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist.The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/13/21 5:12:31 PM #44:	hockeybub89 posted... Technically, banning murder and pedophilia is discrimination, but I doubt you'd make the argument in a discussion on those topics. I'm not actually sure that would count as discrimination. But what I'm talking about are things like "it's ok to reject more qualified people based solely on their race." (Not a direct quote but ideas like this are part of the overall argument) --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951677475] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Technically, banning murder and pedophilia is discrimination, but I doubt you'd make the argument in a discussion on those topics.</quote> I'm not actually sure that would count as discrimination. But what I'm talking about are things like "it's ok to reject more qualified people based solely on their race." (Not a direct quote but ideas like this are part of the overall argument) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 5:12:32 PM #45:	joe40001 posted... No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: * There is no in-between safe space of not racist. * Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism. * There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist. * The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism. So it says someone can exist in the state of not being a racist. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951677476] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: * There is no in-between safe space of not racist. * Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism. * There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist. * The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism.</quote>So it says someone can exist in the state of not being a racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/13/21 5:14:09 PM #46:	hockeybub89 posted... "Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over". good luck changing human nature. don't wear yourself out --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:951677525] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"Everyone is always going to be racist" might actually be a worse take than "Racism is over".</quote>good luck changing human nature. don't wear yourself out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 5:14:45 PM #47:	joe40001 posted... I'm not actually sure that would count as discrimination. But what I'm talking about are things like "it's ok to reject more qualified people based solely on their race." (Not a direct quote but ideas like this are part of the overall argument) How do you equate "fuck racists" with "discrimination on the basis of race is ok"? Do the books actually say all racists are a certain race or that a certain race is always racist? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951677548] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not actually sure that would count as discrimination. But what I'm talking about are things like "it's ok to reject more qualified people based solely on their race." (Not a direct quote but ideas like this are part of the overall argument)</quote>How do you equate "fuck racists" with "discrimination on the basis of race is ok"? Do the books actually say all racists are a certain race or that a certain race is always racist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/13/21 5:16:15 PM #48:	ledbowman posted... good luck changing human nature. don't wear yourself out I should alert the world to my presence then. Clearly I am a sentient non-human, possibly an alien. This will change everything. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951677599] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>good luck changing human nature. don't wear yourself out</quote>I should alert the world to my presence then. Clearly I am a sentient non-human, possibly an alien. This will change everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 03/13/21 5:16:36 PM #49:	joe40001 posted... No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: * There is no in-between safe space of not racist. * Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism. * There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist. * The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism. That doesnt contradict the person youre quoting, and all sounds good to me. this board is such a fucking shithole, god damn. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:951677610] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>No the book says you can't be "not racist". Quotes: * There is no in-between safe space of not racist. * Whats the problem with being not racist? It is a claim that signifies neutrality: I am not a racist, but neither am I aggressively against racism. * There is no neutrality in the racism struggle. The opposite of racist isnt not racist. It is antiracist. * The claim of not racist neutrality is a mask for racism.</quote>That doesnt contradict the person youre quoting, and all sounds good to me. this board is such a fucking shithole, god damn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 03/13/21 5:17:39 PM #50:	mft1 posted... so when will racism be over racism is not a singular event. contribute to the conversation or shut the fuck up --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:951677654] in Republican... [t:79346606]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>so when will racism be over</quote>racism is not a singular event. contribute to the conversation or shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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