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harley2280 03/09/21 9:59:48 PM #51:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Just withhold the money. They aint gonna come after you, like last time Im in the same boat of being too poor to get insurance (fuck paying $300/mo for a $10k deductible- cheapest I found), but too rich to live off of the state with handouts Good times. If you do actually fall into that category you can file for an exemption from the penalty. I fell into that category when I was in college and had to file for one every year and it was granted. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951540148] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Just withhold the money. They aint gonna come after you, like last time Im in the same boat of being too poor to get insurance (fuck paying $300/mo for a $10k deductible- cheapest I found), but too rich to live off of the state with handouts Good times. </quote> If you do actually fall into that category you can file for an exemption from the penalty. I fell into that category when I was in college and had to file for one every year and it was granted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:00:20 PM #52:	harley2280 posted... As an actual Health Insurance expert the Affordable Care Act is one of the best things to happen to American Healthcare in the last 100 years. It would be even better if Republicans hadn't fucked it over and forced it to take out a public option. We already have that type of set up with Medicare. It would have been super easy to adopt. Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540177] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>As an actual Health Insurance expert the Affordable Care Act is one of the best things to happen to American Healthcare in the last 100 years. It would be even better if Republicans hadn't fucked it over and forced it to take out a public option. We already have that type of set up with Medicare. It would have been super easy to adopt.</quote>Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:00:53 PM #53:	uh wasn't the increased individual tax deduction basically making this a non-issue for anyone with a low-ish income or am i remembering that wrong Is TC gas lighting --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951540191] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>uh wasn't the increased individual tax deduction basically making this a non-issue for anyone with a low-ish income or am i remembering that wrong Is TC gas lighting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:01:20 PM #54:	Fade2black001 posted... Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer this seems like concern trolling and I'm gonna need some sources on this happening because of Obamacare and not because of serious greed/exploitation in America --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951540205] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted... </cite> <quote>Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer</quote> this seems like concern trolling and I'm gonna need some sources on this happening because of Obamacare and not because of serious greed/exploitation in America </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aki_Sora 03/09/21 10:01:51 PM #55:	Just follow other countries that have universal healthcare. Like why many Asia countries can have universal healthcare but America first world country cannot --- This is GameFAQs and stating an opinion is a declaration of WAR! https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561199023744394/ <cite>Aki_Sora posted [p:951540224] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Just follow other countries that have universal healthcare. Like why many Asia countries can have universal healthcare but America first world country cannot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 03/09/21 10:02:28 PM #56:	Too poor to afford insurance? Maybe a hefty fine will make ya think about your situation --- https://imgur.com/EX6Md7k https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L https://imgur.com/A3kur0P https://imgur.com/Hj9RrC6 <cite>Flauros posted [p:951540249] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Too poor to afford insurance? Maybe a hefty fine will make ya think about your situation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:02:34 PM #57:	pure_temper posted... this seems like concern trolling and I'm gonna need some sources on this happening because of Obamacare and not because of serious greed/exploitation in America I posted a link to the news article.... Here https://tinyurl.com/n8rmeb95 --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540253] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>this seems like concern trolling and I'm gonna need some sources on this happening because of Obamacare and not because of serious greed/exploitation in America</quote>I posted a link to the news article.... Here https://tinyurl.com/n8rmeb95 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DD Divine 03/09/21 10:04:07 PM #58:	pure_temper posted... wrong as fuck. everyone should have healthcare by being a fucking human being you, I like. --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. <cite>DD Divine posted [p:951540321] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>wrong as fuck. everyone should have healthcare by being a fucking human being</quote> you, I like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:04:13 PM #59:	Flauros posted... Too poor to afford insurance? Maybe a hefty fine will make ya think about your situation Yep --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540327] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>Too poor to afford insurance? Maybe a hefty fine will make ya think about your situation</quote>Yep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:05:12 PM #60:	DD Divine posted... you, I like. Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want? --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540358] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>DD Divine posted... </cite> <quote>you, I like.</quote>Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:06:11 PM #61:	Fade2black001 posted... harley2280 posted... As an actual Health Insurance expert the Affordable Care Act is one of the best things to happen to American Healthcare in the last 100 years. It would be even better if Republicans hadn't fucked it over and forced it to take out a public option. We already have that type of set up with Medicare. It would have been super easy to adopt. Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951540394] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote> harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote> As an actual Health Insurance expert the Affordable Care Act is one of the best things to happen to American Healthcare in the last 100 years. It would be even better if Republicans hadn't fucked it over and forced it to take out a public option. We already have that type of set up with Medicare. It would have been super easy to adopt. </quote>Then they shouldn't make poor people even poorer</quote> What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:07:54 PM #62:	harley2280 posted... What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society. I mean you're not wrong but damn I'm poor enough as it is and they want to make me poorer... --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540457] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society.</quote>I mean you're not wrong but damn I'm poor enough as it is and they want to make me poorer... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:11:14 PM #63:	Fade2black001 posted... harley2280 posted... What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society. I mean you're not wrong but damn I'm poor enough as it is and they want to make me poorer... No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951540584] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote> What makes poor people poorer is having to go to the ER and getting $100,000 bill that they'll never be able to pay off because they don't have health insurance. What makes poor people poorer is stupid decisions about money in the short term instead of looking at the overall picture and assessing risks. It would be super nice and easy to just tax everyone an extra half dollar except everyone flips shit about that even though it's the most coat effective way to do it. Because people are brainwashed into thinking taxes are evil when they're really just the cost of living in a functional society.</quote>I mean you're not wrong but damn I'm poor enough as it is and they want to make me poorer...</quote> No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:13:12 PM #64:	Fade2black001 posted... Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want? i already fucking answered this and you cowered back in fear. you literally worship Lucifer dude, change your sig. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951540644] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted... </cite> <quote>Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want?</quote> i already fucking answered this and you cowered back in fear. you literally worship Lucifer dude, change your sig. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:14:36 PM #65:	> complains about paying almost nothing extra in a year because the standard deduction is higher now for both individuals and households > doesn't complain about corporations (just the truly evil ones and the owners who don't share stock w/ all workers) holding them pinned down at the neck w/ their boots --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951540691] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>> complains about paying almost nothing extra in a year because the standard deduction is higher now for both individuals and households > doesn't complain about corporations (just the truly evil ones and the owners who don't share stock w/ all workers) holding them pinned down at the neck w/ their boots </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:14:41 PM #66:	harley2280 posted... No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month. Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it. --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540696] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month.</quote>Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 03/09/21 10:15:55 PM #67:	Oh, it's proudclad. It makes sense now. --- https://imgur.com/UM1VO2V https://imgur.com/fd6WS3f <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:951540739] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Oh, it's proudclad. It makes sense now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:17:10 PM #68:	pure_temper posted... i already fucking answered this and you cowered back in fear. you literally worship Lucifer dude, change your sig. Da hell? --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540788] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>i already fucking answered this and you cowered back in fear. you literally worship Lucifer dude, change your sig.</quote>Da hell? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:17:51 PM #69:	_MorningStar posted... Oh, it's proudclad. It makes sense now. The big giant robot boss from FF7? --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540803] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>_MorningStar posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, it's proudclad. It makes sense now.</quote>The big giant robot boss from FF7? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/09/21 10:18:34 PM #70:	Fade2black001 posted... Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it. How do you think insurance works? The point of insurance is to subsidise high risk patients with low risk patients. The reason for the individual mandate was to ensure that it's financially viable to insure high risk patients, perhaps with pre-existing conditions. So, when you become a high risk patient, you'll be the one mooching off of other young healthy people who almost never actually use the service. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:951540819] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted... </cite> <quote>Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it.</quote> How do you think insurance works? The point of insurance is to subsidise high risk patients with low risk patients. The reason for the individual mandate was to ensure that it's financially viable to insure high risk patients, perhaps with pre-existing conditions. So, when you become a high risk patient, you'll be the one mooching off of other young healthy people who almost never actually use the service. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:18:59 PM #71:	Fade2black001 posted... harley2280 posted... No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month. Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it. No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951540834] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote> No they don't. They want to stop you from having to file bankruptcy for a medical bill that you'll never be able to afford to pay, and that costs gets out onto other customers, or tax payers if you have to go on Medicaid. It's no different than Medicare. If you don't pick it up you have to pay a penalty. The average cost of Part B is $146 a month.</quote>Well for someone who has never been to the ER in his entire life I think I'll be fine (famous last words I know). I should be able to make the choice of having it or not and take my chances but instead it is forced upon me for having it.</quote> No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 03/09/21 10:19:38 PM #72:	Where is the best place to buy health insurance? I want it, but I really cant afford the $300/mo and redic deducible. I pay a few bucks for life insurance, because I do fear the debt I'd leave --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:951540855] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Where is the best place to buy health insurance? I want it, but I really cant afford the $300/mo and redic deducible. I pay a few bucks for life insurance, because I do fear the debt I'd leave </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:20:36 PM #73:	harley2280 posted... No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance. Huh? elaborate please --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540879] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance.</quote>Huh? elaborate please </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:22:23 PM #74:	COVxy posted... How do you think insurance works? The point of insurance is to subsidise high risk patients with low risk patients. The reason for the individual mandate is to ensure that it's financially viable to insure high risk patients, perhaps with pre-existing conditions. So, when you become a high risk patient, you'll be the one mooching off of other young healthy people who almost never actually use the service. Yeah I know but it should not be forced upon me though --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951540935] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>How do you think insurance works? The point of insurance is to subsidise high risk patients with low risk patients. The reason for the individual mandate is to ensure that it's financially viable to insure high risk patients, perhaps with pre-existing conditions. So, when you become a high risk patient, you'll be the one mooching off of other young healthy people who almost never actually use the service.</quote>Yeah I know but it should not be forced upon me though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:23:41 PM #75:	Fade2black001 posted... harley2280 posted... No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance. Huh? elaborate please People like you make stupid fucking decisions that drive up costs. When something happens. (It's not a matter of if. Something will happen you're not an immortal.) The other people are still going to have to share your costs even though you never paid into the system. Which in turn drives up there costs. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951540978] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote> No you shouldn't. Because people like you make stupid fucking decisions and drive up the costs for everyone else. It's the same thing that happens with car insurance.</quote>Huh? elaborate please</quote> People like you make stupid fucking decisions that drive up costs. When something happens. (It's not a matter of if. Something will happen you're not an immortal.) The other people are still going to have to share your costs even though you never paid into the system. Which in turn drives up there costs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/09/21 10:24:24 PM #76:	Fade2black001 posted... Yeah I know Doesn't really sound like you do. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:951541000] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah I know</quote> Doesn't really sound like you do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:26:05 PM #77:	harley2280 posted... People like you make stupid fucking decisions that drive up costs. When something happens. (It's not a matter of if. Something will happen you're not an immortal.) The other people are still going to have to share your costs even though you never paid into the system. Which in turn drives up there costs. So you're saying you want something bad to happen to me? After 35 years of my life I never even broken a bone. I am willing to take chances without Health Insurance but I can't opt out of that now can I? I am forced to have and pay for it. --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951541050] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>People like you make stupid fucking decisions that drive up costs. When something happens. (It's not a matter of if. Something will happen you're not an immortal.) The other people are still going to have to share your costs even though you never paid into the system. Which in turn drives up there costs.</quote>So you're saying you want something bad to happen to me? After 35 years of my life I never even broken a bone. I am willing to take chances without Health Insurance but I can't opt out of that now can I? I am forced to have and pay for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:28:18 PM #78:	COVxy posted... Doesn't really sound like you do. I understand it but I shouldn't have to be forced into paying for something I don't want and use that money for other things for me. --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951541108] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Doesn't really sound like you do.</quote>I understand it but I shouldn't have to be forced into paying for something I don't want and use that money for other things for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/09/21 10:28:59 PM #79:	Are taxes theft? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:951541129] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Are taxes theft? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:29:32 PM #80:	COVxy posted... Are taxes theft? we both know they're gonna say yes and still insist they believe in Jesus lmao --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951541152] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Are taxes theft?</quote> we both know they're gonna say yes and still insist they believe in Jesus lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:30:00 PM #81:	Fade2black001 posted... So you're saying you want something bad to happen to me? No, but now I'm saying you clearly can't fucking read or comprehend anything above a 5th grade level if that's what you got from my statement. I don't give a flying if something bad happens to you or not. The point is it's not about you as an individual. You're not special. Nothing revolves around you. Nothing about you or your wants matter in the slightest. It's about things that work better for society as a whole. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951541176] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote>So you're saying you want something bad to happen to me?</quote> No, but now I'm saying you clearly can't fucking read or comprehend anything above a 5th grade level if that's what you got from my statement. I don't give a flying if something bad happens to you or not. The point is it's not about you as an individual. You're not special. Nothing revolves around you. Nothing about you or your wants matter in the slightest. It's about things that work better for society as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 03/09/21 10:30:16 PM #82:	Fade2black001 posted... DD Divine posted... you, I like. Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want? Because we live in a fucking society? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:951541186] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted...</cite> <quote>DD Divine posted... </cite> <quote> you, I like.</quote>Why should I be forced into having healthcare? Why should I have to pay for something I do not want? </quote> Because we live in a fucking society?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 03/09/21 10:31:07 PM #83:	I can't even imagine not wanting health insurance, holy shit --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:951541217] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>I can't even imagine not wanting health insurance, holy shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 03/09/21 10:31:15 PM #84:	Graycap posted... IIRC the individual mandate is still gone. Which is good because it was punitive corporatist garbage. Yep, that would be pretty gross if Biden brings it back --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:951541224] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Graycap posted... </cite> <quote>IIRC the individual mandate is still gone. Which is good because it was punitive corporatist garbage.</quote> Yep, that would be pretty gross if Biden brings it back </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 03/09/21 10:34:45 PM #85:	I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. Enough is enough. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:951541339] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. Enough is enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 03/09/21 10:39:00 PM #86:	Fade2black001 posted... I understand it but I shouldn't have to be forced into paying for something I don't want and use that money for other things for me. They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/79298294 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:951541480] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Fade2black001 posted... </cite> <quote>I understand it but I shouldn't have to be forced into paying for something I don't want and use that money for other things for me.</quote>They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:39:33 PM #87:	Payzmaykr posted... I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. The penalty is a portion of your taxes which if you weren't working you wouldn't have income to file anyways. Second if you fall into that category you can always file for an exemption from the penalty. The form to do so was located on Healthcare.gov at the time. Third nobody said it was free health insurance. There's no such thing as free health insurance even in countries with a single payer system. Fourth if you really have issues with the healthcare system then vote for representatives who are actually trying to reform it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951541501] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. </quote> The penalty is a portion of your taxes which if you weren't working you wouldn't have income to file anyways. Second if you fall into that category you can always file for an exemption from the penalty. The form to do so was located on Healthcare.gov at the time. Third nobody said it was free health insurance. There's no such thing as free health insurance even in countries with a single payer system. Fourth if you really have issues with the healthcare system then vote for representatives who are actually trying to reform it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:41:00 PM #88:	Payzmaykr posted... I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. Enough is enough. yep --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951541551] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>I tried to apply for Obamacare when I was unemployed. I was denied acceptance because my income level was too high. Wasn't this supposed to be free medical care for all? I dont have $300/month for private insurance and I cant afford the tax punishment for not paying for it. This instantly monopolized the private health care industry, giving them full license to hike rates to unplayable sums. Im trying to be one of the people who gets paid for, not one of the people who pays for everyone. Im tired of this shit. The federal government allows hospitals to send people home with life ending bills, so we officially need to socialize medicine and make it free. I dont care if doctors are slightly less rich than theyd like to be. Enough is enough.</quote>yep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fade2black001 03/09/21 10:43:02 PM #89:	onedarksoul posted... They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap. Now this is the sad honest truth right here. --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you <cite>Fade2black001 posted [p:951541622] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap.</quote>Now this is the sad honest truth right here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:44:59 PM #90:	onedarksoul posted... They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap. what's your annual income for the year? let's see if you'll actually be affected by Obamacare ever --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951541672] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap.</quote> what's your annual income for the year? let's see if you'll actually be affected by Obamacare ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 03/09/21 10:48:19 PM #91:	onedarksoul posted... They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap. So by this statement, you are clearly pro-choice going against conservative republic beliefs, right? Being pro-life is forcing a decision on a woman what she can and can not do with her own body. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:951541793] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>They don't care. You're speaking from a honest and authentic perspective which values self-autonomy, the right to make your own decisions and use your own resources as you see fit. They don't like that. Decisions should be made for you, whether you like it or not. Its a fundamental difference and I don't believe any amount of conversation will bridge the gap.</quote>So by this statement, you are clearly pro-choice going against conservative republic beliefs, right? Being pro-life is forcing a decision on a woman what she can and can not do with her own body. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 03/09/21 10:50:00 PM #92:	Aki_Sora posted... Obamacare is the only good thing that happen to America If it helped everyone, then it would be. Instead, it created a some people pay and some people dont system where the people who dont qualify get stuck paying for everyone who doesnt have to pay. The reason they make you sit and wait to get seen (with Obamacare) is because theyre literally waiting for someone without Obamacare to walk in. Thats the person paying your bill, so how could you argue that this is anything good?? <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:951541830] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Aki_Sora posted... </cite> <quote>Obamacare is the only good thing that happen to America</quote>If it helped everyone, then it would be. Instead, it created a some people pay and some people dont system where the people who dont qualify get stuck paying for everyone who doesnt have to pay. The reason they make you sit and wait to get seen (with Obamacare) is because theyre literally waiting for someone without Obamacare to walk in. Thats the person paying your bill, so how could you argue that this is anything good?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/09/21 10:53:27 PM #93:	The individual mandate... While I get what it's supposed to be for, it definitely hurts people who can't afford to pay for health insurance in the first place. The US seems to have a pattern of charging poor people extra fees just because they're poor. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:951541945] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>The individual mandate... While I get what it's supposed to be for, it definitely hurts people who can't afford to pay for health insurance in the first place. The US seems to have a pattern of charging poor people extra fees just because they're poor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/09/21 10:54:16 PM #94:	CableZL posted... The individual mandate... While I get what it's supposed to be for, it definitely hurts people who can't afford to pay for health insurance in the first place. The US seems to have a pattern of charging poor people extra fees just because they're poor. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79340281/951540191 --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951541969] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>The individual mandate... While I get what it's supposed to be for, it definitely hurts people who can't afford to pay for health insurance in the first place. The US seems to have a pattern of charging poor people extra fees just because they're poor.</quote> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79340281/951540191 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slaya4 03/09/21 10:54:18 PM #95:	Obamacare is a fuck you to America. It's absolutely garbage. It's the year of our Lord 2021 and people still defend the absolute dogshit that it is. --- Am I going too hard? <cite>Slaya4 posted [p:951541971] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Obamacare is a fuck you to America. It's absolutely garbage. It's the year of our Lord 2021 and people still defend the absolute dogshit that it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:55:18 PM #96:	Payzmaykr posted... Aki_Sora posted... Obamacare is the only good thing that happen to America If it helped everyone, then it would be. Instead, it created a some people pay and some people dont system where the people who dont qualify get stuck paying for everyone who doesnt have to pay. The reason they make you sit and wait to get seen (with Obamacare) is because theyre literally waiting for someone without Obamacare to walk in. Thats the person paying your bill, so how could you argue that this is anything good?? That makes absolutely no sense. A provider is much more likely to get paid for services performed when someone has an ACA plan. If your doctor is making you wait it doesn't have to do with your insurance. There's either an emergency or he/she is a bad doctor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951541995] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>Aki_Sora posted... </cite> <quote> Obamacare is the only good thing that happen to America</quote>If it helped everyone, then it would be. Instead, it created a some people pay and some people dont system where the people who dont qualify get stuck paying for everyone who doesnt have to pay. The reason they make you sit and wait to get seen (with Obamacare) is because theyre literally waiting for someone without Obamacare to walk in. Thats the person paying your bill, so how could you argue that this is anything good??</quote> That makes absolutely no sense. A provider is much more likely to get paid for services performed when someone has an ACA plan. If your doctor is making you wait it doesn't have to do with your insurance. There's either an emergency or he/she is a bad doctor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 03/09/21 10:55:29 PM #97:	How long do you have to be without insurance to get fined? --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:951541998] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>How long do you have to be without insurance to get fined? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/09/21 10:56:30 PM #98:	BignutzisBack posted... How long do you have to be without insurance to get fined? There is no fine right now because the individual mandate has been removed. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:951542016] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>How long do you have to be without insurance to get fined?</quote>There is no fine right now because the individual mandate has been removed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 03/09/21 10:58:44 PM #99:	Or, instead of spending hundreds of billions on crappy ass jets, invest in universal healthcare. --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:951542085] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>Or, instead of spending hundreds of billions on crappy ass jets, invest in universal healthcare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 03/09/21 10:59:49 PM #100:	008Zulu posted... Or, instead of spending hundreds of billions on crappy ass jets, invest in universal healthcare. "But taxes are evil!!!" Seriously universal healthcare would put me out of a job, and I still 100% support it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:951542131] in Great.... ... [t:79340281]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Or, instead of spending hundreds of billions on crappy ass jets, invest in universal healthcare.</quote> "But taxes are evil!!!" Seriously universal healthcare would put me out of a job, and I still 100% support it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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