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pure_temper
03/07/21 2:06:25 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I know science is good, which is why I'm not taking this vaccine

i mean im open minded so go ahead and explain plz

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Crescente
03/07/21 2:08:24 PM
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The vaccine costs $110 for one shot here, so I can see why some people may not want to do it.
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shironinja
03/07/21 2:10:52 PM
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Just put it in the water with the other mind-control drugs like Fluoride.

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Bio1590
03/07/21 2:13:01 PM
#54:


Intentionally spreading disinformation like this should be an automatic ban
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2Pacavelli
03/07/21 2:14:32 PM
#55:


pure_temper posted...
i mean im open minded so go ahead and explain plz

Okay my reasons are

1. There have been widespread documented side effects including death from these vaccines. I've posted various news articles from even mainstream sources as proof of this. So from that observation, me being 100% healthy I rather not take the risk of getting the vaccine. Will instead continue social distancing, wearing masks and trying to live/eat healthy.

2. It's a scientific fact that the way this vaccine works is that it makes an alteration to your DNA so that your body naturally produces the spike protein found in the virus that causes Covid-19. So if you happen to be someone who has a bad reaction to this change, you cannot reverse it. If your immune system begins overreact and attack itself due to it now producing this spike protein, then you run the risk of developing permanent auto immune diseases. This risk was also verified by certain medical health professionals I've heard information from.

3. The vaccine was created only a few months after the Covid-19 outbreak. When normally it takes ar least 4+ years to develop a vaccine for a new virus.

4. The USA has a history of attacking Black people via biomedical warfare so just off of that I have a deep mistrust of any potential mandatory medicine coming from this government.

So due to all the above facts I reserve my right to not take this vaccine. If others decide they want to they can go ahead, but I think it's best everyone should take a cautious approach
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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:15:04 PM
#56:


In my experience, anti-vaxxers grossly, and I do mean grossly, overestimate their knowledge of immunology and biology. They are slaves to logical fallacy and Dunning-Kruger syndrome. It was fascinating but also disheartening to watch them intermingle with QAnon and white supremacists on Parler, then have them come back as Q converts who thought the Rothschilds were out to zombify them.

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:19:13 PM
#57:


2Pacavelli posted...
Okay my reasons are

1. There have been widespread documented side effects including death from these vaccines. I've posted various news articles from even mainstream sources as proof of this. So from that observation, me being 100% healthy I rather not take the risk of getting the vaccine. Will instead continue social distancing, wearing masks and trying to live/eat healthy.

2. It's a scientific fact that the way this vaccine works is that it makes an alteration to your DNA so that your body naturally produces the spike protein found in the virus that causes Covid-19. So if you happen to be someone who has a bad reaction to this change, you cannot reverse it. If your immune system begins overreact and attack itself due to it now producing this spike protein, then you run the risk of developing permanent auto immune diseases. This risk was also verified by certain medical health professionals I've heard information from.

3. The vaccine was created only a few months after the Covid-19 outbreak. When normally it takes ar least 4+ years to develop a vaccine for a new virus.

4. The USA has a history of attacking Black people via biomedical warfare so just off of that I have a deep mistrust of any potential mandatory medicine coming from this government.

So due to all the above facts I reserve my right to not take this vaccine. If others decide they want to they can go ahead, but I think it's best everyone should take a cautious approach


  1. This is true for literally any treatment, and mathematically the risk of an average American dying of COVID19 (even not being currently infected) is vastly higher than dying of a vaccine.
  2. This is comical bullshit of the highest order. mRNA does not alter your DNA. If you had even high school level cellular biology, you'd know this. mRNA is uni-directional without the enzyme Reverse Transcriptase; it is literally impossible for mRNA to "alter" your DNA. Literally.
  3. mRNA tech has been in studies for over two decades. The only major change was which protein to code for.
  4. African-Americans were withheld treatment for Syphilis in the Tuskegee Experiments. They weren't literally given Syphilis. It was still reprehensible, but get your effing facts straight.



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pure_temper
03/07/21 2:21:24 PM
#58:


2Pacavelli posted...
There have been widespread documented side effects including death from these vaccines. I've posted various news articles from even mainstream sources as proof of this.

can i see some?

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:21:31 PM
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2Pacavelli, if you don't immediately recognize this picture and know what it's showing, you have no business ever speaking about mRNA until you've had a class in DNA transcription and translation.



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Thunder Warrior
03/07/21 2:22:44 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Yeah seriously, I was getting my second shot last week and talking about side effects from the first one and asked the guy administering it if he had felt anything and he told me he declined getting it since it's optional for the military for now...

Like ... what.


Bro I am literally 1 of 3 people out of a 35 person detachment that opted to take the vaccine. S*** blew my f***ing mind...unfortunately ignorance is pretty rampant in the military and it's so demoralizing/embarrassing for me

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Hexenherz
03/07/21 2:22:45 PM
#61:


DarkRoast posted...
2Pacavelli, if you don't immediately recognize this picture and know what it's showing, you have no business ever speaking about mRNA until you've had a class in DNA transcription and translation.

if there putting condom in my cells then my cells won't be able to reproduce and i'll die!

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monkmith
03/07/21 2:23:02 PM
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lets see...

2Pacavelli posted...
1. There have been widespread documented side effects including death from these vaccines. I've posted various news articles from even mainstream sources as proof of this. So from that observation, me being 100% healthy I rather not take the risk of getting the vaccine. Will instead continue social distancing, wearing masks and trying to live/eat healthy.
this is classic confirmation bias, and completely ignores the fact that a few cherry picked stories are FAR outweighed by millions that had no deadly reaction.

2Pacavelli posted...
2. It's a scientific fact that the way this vaccine works is that it makes an alteration to your DNA so that your body naturally produces the spike protein found in the virus that causes Covid-19. So if you happen to be someone who has a bad reaction to this change, you cannot reverse it. If your immune system begins overreact and attack itself due to it now producing this spike protein, then you run the risk of developing permanent auto immune diseases. This risk was also verified by certain medical health professionals I've heard information from.
this is the problem with social media, spreading bullshit like this when even a basic education in cellular biology would prove you wrong.

2Pacavelli posted...
3. The vaccine was created only a few months after the Covid-19 outbreak. When normally it takes ar least 4+ years to develop a vaccine for a new virus.
this is true. this is because it uses a different method of production.

2Pacavelli posted...


4. The USA has a history of attacking Black people via biomedical warfare so just off of that I have a deep mistrust of any potential mandatory medicine coming from this government.
pulling the race card doesn't really excuse you from all the bullshit you're posting man...

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:25:35 PM
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The sad part is, with even a basic education, even suggesting the idea of mRNA altering your DNA permanently is both laughable and juvenile.

These people are suckers for confirmation bias, and there are plenty of people with credentials behind their name willing to sell out in order to make a buck off them.

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pure_temper
03/07/21 2:27:36 PM
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seems like @2Pacavelli is getting pounded rn

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2Pacavelli
03/07/21 2:28:05 PM
#66:


DarkRoast posted...
African-Americans were withheld treatment for Syphilis in the Tuskegee Experiments. They weren't literally given Syphilis. It was still reprehensible, but get your effing facts straight.

They were given Syphilis, and this is not the only example of the USA experimenting on our people, it's just the most widely known
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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:28:49 PM
#67:


pure_temper posted...
seems like @2Pacavelli is getting pounded rn

Perhaps the most cruel thing about both himself and the people arguing with him is that he lacks even the most basic knowledge required to recognize just how ridiculous his arguments are. Robbed of the ability to accurately assess his own incompetency.

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:31:02 PM
#68:


2Pacavelli posted...
They were given Syphilis, and this is not the only example of the USA experimenting on our people, it's just the most widely known


You are factually incorrect, and spreading falsehoods about it sadly weakens the legitimate arguments that it was morally reprehensible.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm



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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:32:27 PM
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Although, I would love to hear your theory as to how syphilis could have been given to those men by the government. Given how syphilis is transmitted.

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2Pacavelli
03/07/21 2:35:23 PM
#70:


DarkRoast posted...
You are factually incorrect, and spreading falsehoods about it sadly weakens the legitimate arguments that it was morally reprehensible.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm



DarkRoast posted...
Although, I would love to hear your theory as to how syphilis could have been given to those men by the government. Given how syphilis is transmitted.

They were injected with the disease. The governments confession is them admitting a half truth to hide their hand and avoid taking full responsibility for what they did in those experiments.
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sutree
03/07/21 2:36:38 PM
#71:


2Pacavelli posted...
They were injected with the disease. The governments confession is them admitting a half truth to hide their hand and avoid taking full responsibility for what they did in those experiments.
Source: trust me dude

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:38:48 PM
#72:


They were injected with the disease. The governments confession is them admitting a half truth to hide their hand and avoid taking full responsibility for what they did in those experiments.

That's fascinating, considering the government literally contradicts you.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/faq.htm



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One_Day_Remains
03/07/21 2:39:06 PM
#73:


Patty_Fleur posted...
I'm allowed to take the vaccine now because I'm a teacher but I'm not. I figured I would have got sick already from all the people I'm exposed to. Why risk a reaction to the vaccine?


How did you become a teacher when you are genuinely dumber than a first grader
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2Pacavelli
03/07/21 2:42:42 PM
#74:


DarkRoast posted...
They were injected with the disease. The governments confession is them admitting a half truth to hide their hand and avoid taking full responsibility for what they did in those experiments.

That's fascinating, considering the government literally contradicts you.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/faq.htm


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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:43:57 PM
#75:


You seem woefully uneducated on the subjects you ironically are absolutely certain you understand, 2Pacavelli. You might want to internalize that issue and consider the ramifications of your attempts to educate other people on issues for which you have been shown to be objectively incorrect.

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Hexenherz
03/07/21 2:44:08 PM
#76:


DarkRoast posted...
They were injected with the disease. The governments confession is them admitting a half truth to hide their hand and avoid taking full responsibility for what they did in those experiments.

That's fascinating, considering the government literally contradicts you.

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/faq.htm

that's just what they want you to think man

SHIT he already posted that response lmfao

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:46:20 PM
#77:


2Pacavelli posted...
They're lying about the full scope of what went on

Extraordinary claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:47:25 PM
#78:


Hexenherz posted...
that's just what they want you to think man

SHIT he already posted that response lmfao

The best part is how he claimed the government was "forced to admit it" but then he silently redacted it.

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brestugo
03/07/21 2:47:42 PM
#79:


Patty_Fleur posted...
I'm allowed to take the vaccine now because I'm a teacher but I'm not. I figured I would have got sick already from all the people I'm exposed to. Why risk a reaction to the vaccine?

Not sure if serious. Theres no logic here. Any reaction to the vaccine is far less than getting the actual virus.

And you teach?

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Hexenherz
03/07/21 2:48:38 PM
#80:


Also weird that he hasn't revisited any of the points about the vaccine since each one was thoroughly addressed and dismissed >_>

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One_Day_Remains
03/07/21 2:48:42 PM
#81:


2Pacavelli posted...


They're lying about the full scope of what went on


Learn to quit while you're ahead chief. Every single thing you've posted itt has been a lie.
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thronedfire2
03/07/21 2:51:53 PM
#82:


one of the doctors involved in the Tuskegee experiment did purposefully infect people with syphilis in another 'study' years earlier though

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:53:12 PM
#83:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Learn to quit while you're ahead chief. Every single thing you've posted itt has been a lie.

I find that people like this tend to isolate themselves into echo chambers of like-minded individuals, constantly inundated with fake information to the point in which they are no longer capable of adequately gauging misinformation against rational, properly investigated information.

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DarkRoast
03/07/21 2:54:28 PM
#84:


thronedfire2 posted...
one of the doctors involved in the Tuskegee experiment did purposefully infect people with syphilis in another 'study' years earlier though

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_92896

This all stems out of early HIV/AIDS misinformation that used the Tuskegee experiment as leverage. It simply isn't true.

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VTBM
03/07/21 2:54:34 PM
#85:


I don't even get the normal flu vaccine so why would I get this one?

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Bio1590
03/07/21 2:55:10 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Intentionally spreading disinformation like this should be an automatic ban

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brestugo
03/07/21 2:56:00 PM
#87:


I have been saying this about 8 years now-fuck all anti vaxxers. They value superstition over science.

inb4 some YouTube video.

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Funkydog
03/07/21 2:57:13 PM
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This topic is a perfect example of why things aren't going to get better in the west anytime soon. So many idiots, who will be interacting with others, that are anti vaxxers, plain selfish or just idiots refusing to get the vaccine.

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thronedfire2
03/07/21 2:57:44 PM
#89:


DarkRoast posted...
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_92896

This all stems out of early HIV/AIDS misinformation that used the Tuskegee experiment as leverage. It simply isn't true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_Cutler

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Payzmaykr
03/07/21 2:58:21 PM
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I want my vaccination and I cant get it.
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pure_temper
03/07/21 3:00:58 PM
#91:


@2Pacavelli I mean honestly I am open-minded but not convinced by your performance thus far. I'd say the objective summary of this thread is that you're wrong and the others have better arguments. Are you going to change your mind now or do you have more arguments you haven't shared yet?

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Bio1590
03/07/21 3:01:26 PM
#92:


VTBM posted...
I don't even get the normal flu vaccine so why would I get this one?

Is going around and just randomly telling people you lack intelligence a normal day for you?
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DarkRoast
03/07/21 3:01:39 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_Cutler

I just want to point out that Guatemala isn't the United States, and they weren't African-Americans.

Still unjustifiable, but 2Pacavelli explicitly claimed the government injected African-Americans with Syphilis. That did not happen.


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Teh_Dr_Phil
03/07/21 3:02:11 PM
#94:


Hexenherz posted...
Also weird that he hasn't revisited any of the points about the vaccine since each one was thoroughly addressed and dismissed >_>
@2Pacavelli pls respond

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brestugo
03/07/21 3:02:12 PM
#95:


VTBM posted...
I don't even get the normal flu vaccine so why would I get this one?
Heart, lung, kidney and neurological damage (people cant walk stairs, etc.)

According to WHO 14% of otherwise fit and healthy people who had COVID develop diabetes. No family history. No knows why yet.

Youre not one of those redcap Its just the flu types I hope.

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RetsuZaiZen
03/07/21 3:02:33 PM
#96:


Devstacular posted...
I honestly think they should just develop an injection darts and start sniping people.

I know you're kidding but imagine if this actually happened lol. I'd feel sorry for anyone who did that in an open carry state.

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brestugo
03/07/21 3:04:24 PM
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Our schools are failing us. Idiots are rampant.

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2Pacavelli
03/07/21 3:05:22 PM
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pure_temper posted...
@2Pacavelli I mean honestly I am open-minded but not convinced by your performance thus far. I'd say the objective summary of this thread is that you're wrong and the others have better arguments. Are you going to change your mind now or do you have more arguments you haven't shared yet?

I'm not taking the vaccine under any circumstance
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Hexenherz
03/07/21 3:06:36 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The fact remains that the vaccine alters your bodies genetics so that it generates the spike protein.
Except that's not a fact at all.


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