Current Events > As Electric Cars become mainstream Gold and Silver will be even more valuable

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Electronics use Gold and Silver internally because they conduct electricity. If Electric Cars boom to replace Oil based cars, Gold and Silver will be even more in demand so they'll be even more valuable.

Copper too probably. It's all undervalued in comparison with US dollars.

HeartGold and SoulSilver are more valuable.

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Aluminum is cheap, plentiful, and roughly as conductive as gold. We'll be fine.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Aluminum is cheap, plentiful, and roughly as conductive as gold. We'll be fine.

Don't even need to forge a whole engine out of it either

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just play HeartGold and SoulSilver instead, then

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Aluminum is cheap, plentiful, and roughly as conductive as gold. We'll be fine.

The problem with Aluminum is that it is way more prone to corrosion than Gold. Gold is way more durable long term and is rust resistant. That's important for a lot of electronics.

2Pacavelli posted...

The problem with Aluminum is that it is way more prone to corrosion than Gold. Gold is way more durable long term and is rust resistant. That's important for a lot of electronics.

Who cares? We live in a disposable society. People change their electronics like they do their underwear

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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Who cares? We live in a disposable society. People change their electronics like they do their underwear

It's not just about small consumer goods and phones, but Electric Cars and other high end technologically advanced products. They're going to need to use a lot of Gold and Silver

Also Gold and Silver are very important for aerospace travel as well. So as that industry expands it will increase the demand for them as well

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Who cares? We live in a disposable society. People change their electronics like they do their underwear

I'd prefer that my car last as long as possible

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CableZL posted...

I'd prefer that my car last as long as possible

And car companies would prefer it didnt.

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NES4EVER posted...

And car companies would prefer it didnt.

Eh, I would argue that most mass production car companies value the reliability of their vehicles as a selling point to customers.

And even without that, there are a number of electronics that I'd rather not swap out frequently. Security cameras, washer/dryer, thermostat, televisions, etc.

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What will the price of Palladium be. I'd think that would take a dip in this scenario.
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I don't know much about Palladium

2Pacavelli posted...

I don't know much about Palladium

It's in Catalytic converters and is a precious metal.
Theoretically, it would have much less use in an electric car, if any.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Aluminum is cheap, plentiful, and roughly as conductive as gold. We'll be fine.

As someone who generated quotes for prototype electronics builds from medical and military to aerospace, I promise you are wrong. Gold is absolutely essential, you're not going to be bonding wires in a missile guidance system for a destroyer or control module for Curiosity using aluminum.

Gold is also unique in it's malleabilty, an ounce of gold can be flattened out to cover a tennis court so it really cannot be beat there.

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PoundGarden posted...

As someone who generated quotes for prototype electronics builds from medical and military to aerospace, I promise you are wrong. Gold is absolutely essential, you're not going to be bonding wires in a missile guidance system for a destroyer or control module for Curiosity using aluminum.

Gold is also unique in it's malleabilty, an ounce of gold can be flattened out to cover a tennis court so it really cannot be beat there.

Quality post!

There is a reason Gold is what it is.

Also, ya, no one is looking at Aluminum as the next conductor.
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How much to just ride a Lugia to work then?

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PoundGarden posted...

Gold is also unique in it's malleabilty, an ounce of gold can be flattened out to cover a tennis court so it really cannot be beat there.

Yes it can be beat, isn't that how you flatten it out?

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America will not make electric car mainstream because if they mainstream who gonna buy America oils
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Why are people always shilling gold and silver?

synth_real posted...

Yes it can be beat, isn't that how you flatten it out?

Malleability.
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not as valueable as bitcoin though

MarbyIsBack posted...

HeartGold and SoulSilver are more valuable.

I have HeartGold complete in box with the pedometer. I heard that's worth a decent amount.

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SiO4 posted...

Malleability.

Would gallium be considered cheating here?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Would gallium be considered cheating here?

Good question, but that probably has more to do with melting point.
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PoundGarden posted...

As someone who generated quotes for prototype electronics builds from medical and military to aerospace, I promise you are wrong. Gold is absolutely essential, you're not going to be bonding wires in a missile guidance system for a destroyer or control module for Curiosity using aluminum.

Gold is also unique in it's malleabilty, an ounce of gold can be flattened out to cover a tennis court so it really cannot be beat there.

then you also know that it's only used on the circuit boards in minute quantities, and not in the batteries which use lithium and cobalt, or the electric motors which use copper or neodymium...right?

qmark is totally wrong, but so is OP.

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Imagine thinking companies in the year 2021 of our lord are making products that are long lasting and reliable like they use to be. There's a reason why computers keep upgrading and they make software which requires the new stuff cause the old stuff can't handle it.

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If there's anything to beat on it would be copper

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2Pacavelli posted...

The problem with Aluminum is that it is way more prone to corrosion than Gold.

Thats the capitalist, planned-obsolescence dream!

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Sackgurl posted...

then you also know that it's only used on the circuit boards in minute quantities, and not in the batteries which use lithium and cobalt, or the electric motors which use copper or neodymium...right?

qmark is totally wrong, but so is OP.

I think he meant in Fleet Quantities.
Then at that point, I could see Gold being used in electric vehicles more than it is today.

But ya, it's the batteries and the energy storage that is the question.
The day we have a real breakthrough in energy storage will be a big day for this world.
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SiO4 posted...

Then at that point, I could see Gold being used in electric vehicles more than it is today.

gold's used in non-electric vehicles too

for basically the same purposes

there's no reason to assume gold prices will be driven up in cost when the EV market is meant to compete with the combustion engine vehicle market, and not to grow independently.

lithium prices sure. but lithium is cheap.

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SiO4 posted...

But ya, it's the batteries and the energy storage that is the question.
The day we have a real breakthrough in energy storage will be a big day for this world.

Indeed. With vehicles and electronics it's more an issue of energy production/storage and memory capacity (for computers anyway) than it is an issue of conductivity, which is what gold is used for

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Sackgurl posted...

then you also know that it's only used on the circuit boards in minute quantities, and not in the batteries which use lithium and cobalt, or the electric motors which use copper or neodymium...right?

qmark is totally wrong, but so is OP.

Of course, my point was aluminum is not a substitute for gold and it does have specific applications and advantages

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PoundGarden posted...

Of course, my point was aluminum is not a substitute for gold and it does have specific applications and advantages

It is, however, a useful substitute for copper.

Sackgurl posted...

gold's used in non-electric vehicles too

for basically the same purposes

there's no reason to assume gold prices will be driven up in cost when the EV market is meant to compete with the combustion engine vehicle market, and not to grow independently.

lithium prices sure. but lithium is cheap.

Oh ya, for sure, but I would think there would be an uptick, just based of additional circuitry.

YourLovelyTina posted...

Indeed. With vehicles and electronics it's more an issue of energy production/storage and memory capacity (for computers anyway) than it is an issue of conductivity, which is what gold is used for

Basically, anyone in electronic engineering should spend some time on energy storage.
There has to be a better way. The energy is there.
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SiO4 posted...

There has to be a better way.

Whatever happened to supercapacitors?

https://youtu.be/wVqWhM9COLM

Insane amounts of Copper and Silver will be needed for the global population if Tesla Cars and other similar cars go mainstream

Questionmarktarius posted...

Whatever happened to supercapacitors?

LOL, I'm not even sure what they were supposed to be.
Except to say, I'm pretty sure that is what our brains are.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Whatever happened to supercapacitors?

capacitor : supercapacitor : battery :: smartphone : tablet : computer

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Gold has formed a cup and handle on the 30 Year Chart. These may be the last few years to get it before it really skyrockets

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cupandhandle.asp

https://youtu.be/GiQu9AilHz4

The future isn't electric cars, it's alternative fuels. battery cars are just a stopgap while zero emission green fuels are developed. It's already in the works.

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