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GoldenSchmoldin 03/04/21 1:07:30 PM #1:	Don't get me wrong. The decision for some of those Dr Seuss books to be pulled from publication was absolutely the correct one. But now I'm nervous that it might soon be the correct decision for Tolkien as well and that I might be a bad person for hoping that it doesn't happen. <cite>GoldenSchmoldin posted [p:951334893] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong. The decision for some of those Dr Seuss books to be pulled from publication was absolutely the correct one. But now I'm nervous that it might soon be the correct decision for Tolkien as well and that I might be a bad person for hoping that it doesn't happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 03/04/21 1:08:30 PM #2:	It has to happen eventually, people have been complaining about him since long before the current climate. Lewis, too. <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:951334937] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>It has to happen eventually, people have been complaining about him since long before the current climate. Lewis, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Background_Guy 03/04/21 1:09:53 PM #5:	mobilebloechel posted... LOL for what reason? He's neigh untouchable. And his works are just bad ass. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:951334993] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted... </cite> <quote>LOL for what reason? He's neigh untouchable. And his works are just bad ass.</quote> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/04/21 1:11:05 PM #6:	mobilebloechel posted... LOL for what reason? Ambiguous "racism" over the Haradrim, and the movie Uruk-hai certainly aren't helping any. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951335045] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted... </cite> <quote>LOL for what reason?</quote>Ambiguous "racism" over the Haradrim, and the movie Uruk-hai certainly aren't helping any. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 03/04/21 1:11:14 PM #7:	These arguments have been happening for decades so I'm surprised modern activists haven't caught on yet. <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:951335050] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>These arguments have been happening for decades so I'm surprised modern activists haven't caught on yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 03/04/21 1:11:27 PM #8:	They tried to cancel old white philosophers at one point, that's when I stand to lose something I guess. I don't know. Pretty easy to talk about philosophy at a general level so you can remove the names and still talk about it. Even if stuff does get removed from the historical record, that just means that the way has been cleared for something new to take its place. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:951335056] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>They tried to cancel old white philosophers at one point, that's when I stand to lose something I guess. I don't know. Pretty easy to talk about philosophy at a general level so you can remove the names and still talk about it. Even if stuff does get removed from the historical record, that just means that the way has been cleared for something new to take its place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldenSchmoldin 03/04/21 1:12:15 PM #9:	tote_all posted... No one will care if it's not any of his 4 mainstream books. The appearance and mannerisms for orcs were inspired by racist cartoons against the Irish. <cite>GoldenSchmoldin posted [p:951335076] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>No one will care if it's not any of his 4 mainstream books.</quote>The appearance and mannerisms for orcs were inspired by racist cartoons against the Irish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/04/21 1:13:26 PM #11:	GoldenSchmoldin posted... The appearance and mannerisms for orcs were inspired by racist cartoons against the Irish. The dwarves were supposed to be a Jewish allegory, but ended up becoming Scottish somehow. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951335124] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>GoldenSchmoldin posted... </cite> <quote>The appearance and mannerisms for orcs were inspired by racist cartoons against the Irish.</quote>The dwarves were supposed to be a Jewish allegory, but ended up becoming Scottish somehow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoldenSchmoldin 03/04/21 1:20:29 PM #13:	tote_all posted... https://youtu.be/CxlmffoVnec?t=49 I watched to about a minute after where you time stamped the video, and I'm not sure what point you're trying to drive at. But I'm talking about books, not movies. <cite>GoldenSchmoldin posted [p:951335388] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/CxlmffoVnec?t=49</quote>I watched to about a minute after where you time stamped the video, and I'm not sure what point you're trying to drive at. But I'm talking about books, not movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommunismFTW 03/04/21 1:27:08 PM #14:	dudes been dead 50 years and can't defend himself, might as well cancel his shit because there are different cultures in his fantasy setting!!! meanwhile, elsewhere, --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. https://imgur.com/OhZgm <cite>CommunismFTW posted [p:951335652] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>dudes been dead 50 years and can't defend himself, might as well cancel his shit because there are different cultures in his fantasy setting!!! meanwhile, elsewhere, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighOnSolar 03/04/21 1:28:08 PM #15:	Lotr is dookie --- Surf <cite>HighOnSolar posted [p:951335693] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Lotr is dookie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 03/04/21 1:29:40 PM #16:	They try to cancel Tolkien every year. Its never going to happen. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:951335749] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>They try to cancel Tolkien every year. Its never going to happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 03/04/21 1:29:55 PM #17:	CommunismFTW posted... dudes been dead 50 years and can't defend himself, might as well cancel his shit because there are different cultures in his fantasy setting!!! meanwhile, elsewhere, HE (and his cat) CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!! --- https://imgur.com/u5kY6Yt https://imgur.com/V6HBhkR <cite>Doe posted [p:951335759] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>CommunismFTW posted... </cite> <quote>dudes been dead 50 years and can't defend himself, might as well cancel his shit because there are different cultures in his fantasy setting!!! meanwhile, elsewhere, </quote>HE (and his cat) CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/04/21 1:30:51 PM #18:	CommunismFTW posted... meanwhile, elsewhere, Did you play Fractured But Whole? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951335799] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>CommunismFTW posted... </cite> <quote>meanwhile, elsewhere,</quote>Did you play Fractured But Whole? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommunismFTW 03/04/21 1:31:20 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... Did you play Fractured But Whole? N i didn't play stick of truth either. not a big sp fan --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. https://imgur.com/OhZgm <cite>CommunismFTW posted [p:951335818] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Did you play Fractured But Whole?</quote> N i didn't play stick of truth either. not a big sp fan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 03/04/21 1:32:35 PM #21:	I mean there are certainly problems with some of the stuff he wrote, but my understanding of the Dr. Seuss thing is that it was mainly the illustrations that were the objectionable parts. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:951335868] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>I mean there are certainly problems with some of the stuff he wrote, but my understanding of the Dr. Seuss thing is that it was mainly the illustrations that were the objectionable parts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 03/04/21 1:45:28 PM #22:	It's easy to cancel people when they're too dead to defend themselves. --- Thanks to Proofpyros for the sig images https://imgur.com/Nv4Pi1v https://imgur.com/N43HJYv <cite>FL81 posted [p:951336339] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>It's easy to cancel people when they're too dead to defend themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maeiv 03/04/21 1:45:40 PM #23:	MrToothHasYou posted... I mean there are certainly problems with some of the stuff he wrote, but my understanding of the Dr. Seuss thing is that it was mainly the illustrations that were the objectionable parts. Agree with this, also Dr Seuss works are primarily aimed towards children. I would surmise that works aimed towards teenagers and young adults probably has more leeway --- Achieve the dream 76ers, Eagles <cite>Maeiv posted [p:951336343] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>MrToothHasYou posted... </cite> <quote>I mean there are certainly problems with some of the stuff he wrote, but my understanding of the Dr. Seuss thing is that it was mainly the illustrations that were the objectionable parts.</quote> Agree with this, also Dr Seuss works are primarily aimed towards children. I would surmise that works aimed towards teenagers and young adults probably has more leeway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maeiv 03/04/21 1:58:50 PM #25:	tote_all posted... How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"? Justin Bieber Patrick Kane --- Achieve the dream 76ers, Eagles <cite>Maeiv posted [p:951336874] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"?</quote> Justin Bieber Patrick Kane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 03/04/21 1:58:52 PM #26:	You should be more upset about his racism than whether or not he's "canceled" --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:951336879] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>You should be more upset about his racism than whether or not he's "canceled" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 03/04/21 1:59:47 PM #27:	what are people going to stop you from reading the books and enjoying the material that you traditionally have enjoyed? --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:951336920] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>what are people going to stop you from reading the books and enjoying the material that you traditionally have enjoyed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/04/21 2:07:05 PM #29:	tote_all posted... Maybe we can toss in James Gunn. That's 3. Hulk Hogan, Mel Gibson <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951337233] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe we can toss in James Gunn. That's 3.</quote>Hulk Hogan, Mel Gibson </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 03/04/21 2:09:05 PM #31:	Why are we feeding the week old troll alt --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:951337320] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Why are we feeding the week old troll alt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/04/21 2:09:36 PM #32:	tote_all posted... lmfao, sure pal also Pee-Wee Herman, if we're including what "cancelled" was a couple generations ago. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951337337] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>lmfao, sure pal</quote>also Pee-Wee Herman, if we're including what "cancelled" was a couple generations ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maeiv 03/04/21 2:10:10 PM #33:	I guess Joe Rogan. Maybe Johnny Depp? Louis CK is kind of a gray area because he was technically gone for a while then came back, similar to Paula Dean. --- Achieve the dream 76ers, Eagles <cite>Maeiv posted [p:951337358] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>I guess Joe Rogan. Maybe Johnny Depp? Louis CK is kind of a gray area because he was technically gone for a while then came back, similar to Paula Dean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/04/21 2:10:12 PM #34:	tote_all posted... How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"? I mean, Brett Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951337360] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"?</quote>I mean, Brett Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 03/04/21 2:11:59 PM #35:	It will happen. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:951337422] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>It will happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 03/04/21 2:27:00 PM #37:	Wouldn't really upset me that much. I had great fun with the LotR and Hobbit books and movies, but if it Tolkien gets canceled I won't really shed any tears. LotR was like half of my life ago, I've somewhat moved on. Only LotR game I've played recently though, was War in the North. I have Middle-earth: Shadow of War on PS+ but I haven't tried it. --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:951338013] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Wouldn't really upset me that much. I had great fun with the LotR and Hobbit books and movies, but if it Tolkien gets canceled I won't really shed any tears. LotR was like half of my life ago, I've somewhat moved on. Only LotR game I've played recently though, was War in the North. I have Middle-earth: Shadow of War on PS+ but I haven't tried it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 03/04/21 2:27:22 PM #38:	16-BITTER posted... Lovecraft was less famous than Tolkien and objectively more of a racist and, not only hasn't he been cancelled, stuff based on his universe is more popular than ever. They did remove his bust from the World Fantasy Award --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:951338026] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted... </cite> <quote>Lovecraft was less famous than Tolkien and objectively more of a racist and, not only hasn't he been cancelled, stuff based on his universe is more popular than ever.</quote>They did remove his bust from the World Fantasy Award </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldenSchmoldin 03/04/21 2:28:34 PM #39:	tote_all posted... lmfao, sure pal He's not wrong. Maeiv posted... Louis CK is kind of a gray area I thought the Louis CK thing was stupid the very first time I read about it. He asked the women if it was okay, and they said yes. It's his own fault he got "canceled" because he caved in and apologized. Dude could have continued his act without missing a beat. We could also add Morgan Walen, since his sales have actually skyrocketed BECAUSE of the incident. And I hate that. However, I actually have some respect for the dude, because he gave a sincere apology, and even told people to stop defending what he did. <cite>GoldenSchmoldin posted [p:951338076] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>lmfao, sure pal</quote>He's not wrong. Maeiv posted... </cite> <quote>Louis CK is kind of a gray area</quote>I thought the Louis CK thing was stupid the very first time I read about it. He asked the women if it was okay, and they said yes. It's his own fault he got "canceled" because he caved in and apologized. Dude could have continued his act without missing a beat. We could also add Morgan Walen, since his sales have actually skyrocketed BECAUSE of the incident. And I hate that. However, I actually have some respect for the dude, because he gave a sincere apology, and even told people to stop defending what he did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 03/04/21 2:29:50 PM #40:	Everything will get cancelled eventually based on subjective analysis instead of artist intent. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:951338116] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Everything will get cancelled eventually based on subjective analysis instead of artist intent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hellzapoppin 03/04/21 2:31:12 PM #41:	Eh, hopefully people eventually get tired of this shit and tell the pieces of scum responsible to fuck off and jump in a volcano. --- "Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?" <cite>Hellzapoppin posted [p:951338155] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Eh, hopefully people eventually get tired of this shit and tell the pieces of scum responsible to fuck off and jump in a volcano. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 03/04/21 2:33:07 PM #42:	tote_all posted... How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"? It would be better to ask who hasn't been able to successfully defend themselves, because that number is much smaller --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:951338234] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>How many living people have successfully defended themselves from being "cancelled"?</quote>It would be better to ask who hasn't been able to successfully defend themselves, because that number is much smaller </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 03/04/21 2:34:07 PM #43:	Just ban everything and get it over with. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:951338274] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Just ban everything and get it over with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/04/21 2:34:40 PM #44:	16-BITTER posted... Just because Twitter doesn't like something doesn't mean it stops existing. Say it louder for the people in the back --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:951338302] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted... </cite> <quote>Just because Twitter doesn't like something doesn't mean it stops existing.</quote>Say it louder for the people in the back </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 03/04/21 2:57:36 PM #45:	RebelElite791 posted... Why are we feeding the week old troll alt --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:951339213] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... </cite> <quote>Why are we feeding the week old troll alt</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 03/04/21 2:59:01 PM #46:	RebelElite791 posted... RebelElite791 posted... Why are we feeding the week old troll alt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7zYIj9uV0 --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:951339263] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... </cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... Why are we feeding the week old troll alt </quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7zYIj9uV0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caroniver 03/04/21 3:04:57 PM #47:	Background_Guy posted... http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works Some critics have declared that there is racism in Tolkien's works through his use of the words such as "light" and "white" vs. "dark" or "black". Oh, fuck, every series with good vs evil uses these terms. Time to cancel all Fantasy stories. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired <cite>Caroniver posted [p:951339508] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works</quote> <quote>Some critics have declared that there is racism in Tolkien's works through his use of the words such as "light" and "white" vs. "dark" or "black".</quote>Oh, fuck, every series with good vs evil uses these terms. Time to cancel all Fantasy stories. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldenSchmoldin 03/04/21 3:15:51 PM #48:	RebelElite791 posted... Why are we feeding the week old troll alt Most people actually seem to respect and respond positively to posts that I make with my old account. What did I say ITT that made you all bitchy, though? <cite>GoldenSchmoldin posted [p:951339941] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... </cite> <quote>Why are we feeding the week old troll alt</quote>Most people actually seem to respect and respond positively to posts that I make with my old account. What did I say ITT that made you all bitchy, though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 03/04/21 3:17:23 PM #49:	The Trent posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7zYIj9uV0 That scene is probably my favorite scene in the history of cinema. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:951339999] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7zYIj9uV0</quote>That scene is probably my favorite scene in the history of cinema. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 03/04/21 3:18:11 PM #50:	build up your library now --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:951340027] in Kinda nerv... [t:79329904]...</cite> <quote>build up your library now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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