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Talk2DaHand 02/18/21 7:47:31 PM #1:	BREAKING: President Biden just issued new ICE guidance wholly abandoning his pledge to halt deportations. ACLU says this is "a disappointing step backward from the Biden administrations earlier commitments to fully break from the harmful deportation policies" of Trump and Obama. --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950811618] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>BREAKING: President Biden just issued new ICE guidance wholly abandoning his pledge to halt deportations. ACLU says this is "a disappointing step backward from the Biden administrations earlier commitments to fully break from the harmful deportation policies" of Trump and Obama. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/18/21 7:59:52 PM #2:	Is this what you're referring to? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/immigration-enforcement-biden/index.html US Immigration and Customs Enforcement is rolling out new guidelines that would curtail enforcement measures, focusing more narrowly on immigrants who pose a national security, border security or public safety risk, the agency announced Thursday. The new guidance was prompted by an executive order signed by President Joe Biden shortly after taking office and marks a return to Obama-era immigration enforcement measures based on a priority system instead of the more aggressive approach taken under the Trump administration. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:950812082] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Is this what you're referring to? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/immigration-enforcement-biden/index.html <quote>US Immigration and Customs Enforcement is rolling out new guidelines that would curtail enforcement measures, focusing more narrowly on immigrants who pose a national security, border security or public safety risk, the agency announced Thursday.</quote> <quote>The new guidance was prompted by an executive order signed by President Joe Biden shortly after taking office and marks a return to Obama-era immigration enforcement measures based on a priority system instead of the more aggressive approach taken under the Trump administration.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryangrad 02/18/21 8:02:15 PM #3:	TC is a Trumpet by the way. --- https://imgur.com/v3SzL0d https://imgur.com/n8MtRqd <cite>Ryangrad posted [p:950812168] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>TC is a Trumpet by the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 12:29:17 AM #4:	COVxy posted... Is this what you're referring to? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/immigration-enforcement-biden/index.html So he'll deport 4 million more, like Obama? Yikes Ryangrad posted... TC is a Trumpet by the way. I love that instrument, but if it's Trumper you mean then no. I detest Trump with a passion --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950821376] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Is this what you're referring to? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/immigration-enforcement-biden/index.html</quote> So he'll deport 4 million more, like Obama? Yikes Ryangrad posted... </cite> <quote>TC is a Trumpet by the way.</quote> I love that instrument, but if it's Trumper you mean then no. I detest Trump with a passion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:06:49 AM #5:	Biden Received $5 Million from Border Security and Immigrant Prison Companies During Campaign https://t.co/dhcYZEEJAw --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823454] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Biden Received $5 Million from Border Security and Immigrant Prison Companies During Campaign https://t.co/dhcYZEEJAw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueHairVegeta 02/19/21 2:09:42 AM #6:	The part about focusing on criminals is a false flag, ICE is absolutely gonna keep deporting anyone they can --- Welcome back <cite>BlueHairVegeta posted [p:950823491] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>The part about focusing on criminals is a false flag, ICE is absolutely gonna keep deporting anyone they can </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:12:32 AM #7:	BlueHairVegeta posted... The part about focusing on criminals is a false flag, ICE is absolutely gonna keep deporting anyone they can Bingo. Obama deported more than 4 million, no way they were all criminals. Biden going back to Obama era policies is not good. But neoliberals gonna neolib --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823536] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>BlueHairVegeta posted... </cite> <quote>The part about focusing on criminals is a false flag, ICE is absolutely gonna keep deporting anyone they can</quote> Bingo. Obama deported more than 4 million, no way they were all criminals. Biden going back to Obama era policies is not good. But neoliberals gonna neolib </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 02/19/21 2:14:23 AM #8:	Talk2DaHand posted... Bingo. Obama deported more than 4 million, no way they were all criminals. Biden going back to Obama era policies is not good. But neoliberals gonna neolib Just in wondering... if someone is illegally living in a country what do you think is the right course of action? Just wondering. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:950823569] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Bingo. Obama deported more than 4 million, no way they were all criminals. Biden going back to Obama era policies is not good. But neoliberals gonna neolib</quote> Just in wondering... if someone is illegally living in a country what do you think is the right course of action? Just wondering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:17:23 AM #9:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Just in wondering... if someone is illegally living in a country what do you think is the right course of action? Just wondering. Depends. If they are white and from Europe or the UK they mostly get ignored or get extended visas. The handcuffs and forced deportations are almost exclusively used on the brown people that come from the south. Sad stuff --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823615] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>Just in wondering... if someone is illegally living in a country what do you think is the right course of action? Just wondering.</quote> Depends. If they are white and from Europe or the UK they mostly get ignored or get extended visas. The handcuffs and forced deportations are almost exclusively used on the brown people that come from the south. Sad stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 02/19/21 2:18:15 AM #10:	Talk2DaHand posted... Depends. If they are white and from Europe or the UK they mostly get ignored or get extended visas. The handcuffs and forced deportations are almost exclusively used on the brown people that come from the south. Sad stuff I'm not asking what the US does. I'm asking what you think should be done. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:950823632] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Depends. If they are white and from Europe or the UK they mostly get ignored or get extended visas. The handcuffs and forced deportations are almost exclusively used on the brown people that come from the south. Sad stuff</quote> I'm not asking what the US does. I'm asking what you think should be done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:22:02 AM #11:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I'm not asking what the US does. I'm asking what you think should be done. Screened for criminal background and given visas if cleared. You know, same thing they do with the melanin deficient. --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823701] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not asking what the US does. I'm asking what you think should be done.</quote> Screened for criminal background and given visas if cleared. You know, same thing they do with the melanin deficient. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 02/19/21 2:24:28 AM #12:	Talk2DaHand posted... Screened for criminal background and given visas if cleared. You know, same thing they do with the melanin deficient. So everyone who has no criminal background, so long as they hit the shores of your country, are given visas? How long does their visa allow them to stay? --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:950823746] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Screened for criminal background and given visas if cleared. You know, same thing they do with the melanin deficient.</quote> So everyone who has no criminal background, so long as they hit the shores of your country, are given visas? How long does their visa allow them to stay? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 2:25:04 AM #13:	Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950823758] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:32:31 AM #14:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... So everyone who has no criminal background, so long as they hit the shores of your country, are given visas? How long does their visa allow them to stay? I'll go with indefinitely, as long as they are studying/working. All hispanos and blacks should be able to live here if they are productive and law-abiding. --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823884] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>So everyone who has no criminal background, so long as they hit the shores of your country, are given visas? How long does their visa allow them to stay?</quote> I'll go with indefinitely, as long as they are studying/working. All hispanos and blacks should be able to live here if they are productive and law-abiding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:37:36 AM #15:	Eliza3 posted... Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC? Like this https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1362525195202924544?s=19 --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950823986] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC?</quote> Like this https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1362525195202924544?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 02/19/21 2:38:40 AM #16:	theyre not kids in cages anymore, theyre called overflow centers now or something like that <cite>coh posted [p:950824005] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>theyre not kids in cages anymore, theyre called overflow centers now or something like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 2:42:26 AM #17:	Talk2DaHand posted... Like this https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1362525195202924544?s=19 What specifically in the memorandum do you have an issue with? Let's start there. Or did you not read it? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824074] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Like this https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1362525195202924544?s=19</quote> What specifically in the memorandum do you have an issue with? Let's start there. Or did you not read it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 02/19/21 2:47:33 AM #18:	Talk2DaHand posted... I'll go with indefinitely, as long as they are studying/working. All hispanos and blacks should be able to live here if they are productive and law-abiding. You keep deflecting to skin color, making it borderline race baiting. If they are illegal, regardless if white or not, the government can boot their illegal ass out. This isnt a controversial idea in households around the world, let alone actual countries, that can and will remove guests who overstay their welcome. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:950824174] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>I'll go with indefinitely, as long as they are studying/working. All hispanos and blacks should be able to live here if they are productive and law-abiding.</quote> You keep deflecting to skin color, making it borderline race baiting. If they are illegal, regardless if white or not, the government can boot their illegal ass out. This isnt a controversial idea in households around the world, let alone actual countries, that can and will remove guests who overstay their welcome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 2:49:45 AM #19:	A person can't be illegal --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824217] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>A person can't be illegal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 02/19/21 2:52:49 AM #20:	Didn't they try to stop deportation and get shut down by a federal judge? --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/79298294 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:950824267] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Didn't they try to stop deportation and get shut down by a federal judge? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 2:55:21 AM #21:	onedarksoul posted... Didn't they try to stop deportation and get shut down by a federal judge? Yup https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-immigration-texas/u-s-judge-blocks-deportation-freeze-in-swift-setback-for-biden-idUSKBN29V2CU --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824304] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't they try to stop deportation and get shut down by a federal judge?</quote>Yup https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-immigration-texas/u-s-judge-blocks-deportation-freeze-in-swift-setback-for-biden-idUSKBN29V2CU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 2:55:32 AM #22:	Eliza3 posted... What specifically in the memorandum do you have an issue with? Let's start there. Or did you not read it? Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs https://twitter.com/_maxgranger/status/1362480576956039168?s=19 --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950824307] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>What specifically in the memorandum do you have an issue with? Let's start there. Or did you not read it?</quote> Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs https://twitter.com/_maxgranger/status/1362480576956039168?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/19/21 2:59:14 AM #23:	ICE isnt getting reined in anytime soon, you gotta be delusional to believe that shit --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:950824361] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>ICE isnt getting reined in anytime soon, you gotta be delusional to believe that shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:02:30 AM #24:	Talk2DaHand posted... Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs https://twitter.com/_maxgranger/status/1362480576956039168?s=19 Lmao so you read none of it. That's not even the memorandum you're talking about in the OP. That's the immigration bill. This is a piss poor attempt at concern trolling. Again, what in the memorandum that this topic was created in reference to do you have an issue with? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824418] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs https://twitter.com/_maxgranger/status/1362480576956039168?s=19</quote>Lmao so you read none of it. That's not even the memorandum you're talking about in the OP. That's the immigration bill. This is a piss poor attempt at concern trolling. Again, what in the memorandum that this topic was created in reference to do you have an issue with? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 02/19/21 3:02:53 AM #25:	It's hard living in a world with borders and countries and shit. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:950824425] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>It's hard living in a world with borders and countries and shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 02/19/21 3:09:04 AM #26:	Didn't Obama have a record for the amount of deportations under his administration? Democrats are better than Republicans on many things, but on immigration they are both abhorrent, even though Democrats have a better marketing campaign in getting people to believe they are more sympathetic to immigration issues. But I guess now that theres a Dem in charge other Dem voters will bend over backwards to justify doing the same things Republicans did --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:950824527] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Didn't Obama have a record for the amount of deportations under his administration? Democrats are better than Republicans on many things, but on immigration they are both abhorrent, even though Democrats have a better marketing campaign in getting people to believe they are more sympathetic to immigration issues. But I guess now that theres a Dem in charge other Dem voters will bend over backwards to justify doing the same things Republicans did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 02/19/21 3:15:25 AM #27:	scar the 1 posted... A person can't be illegal Not in the philosophical sense, no. But they can absolutely be an illegal resident in a house, or a nation. You can't legally board a commercial plane without a ticket. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:950824627] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>A person can't be illegal</quote>Not in the philosophical sense, no. But they can absolutely be an illegal resident in a house, or a nation. You can't legally board a commercial plane without a ticket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 02/19/21 3:17:08 AM #28:	Talk2DaHand posted... Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs So what exactly is a "rescue beacon" supposed to be for? to trick people crossing to get captured? --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:950824651] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Read enough of it to know it's dystopia ridden bs</quote>So what exactly is a "rescue beacon" supposed to be for? to trick people crossing to get captured? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:32:08 AM #29:	Gobstoppers12 posted... Not in the philosophical sense, no. But they can absolutely be an illegal resident in a house, or a nation. You can't legally board a commercial plane without a ticket. Then you've committed an illegal act. That doesn't make you illegal as a person. And well, people seeking asylum aren't breaking the law --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824868] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>Not in the philosophical sense, no. But they can absolutely be an illegal resident in a house, or a nation. You can't legally board a commercial plane without a ticket.</quote>Then you've committed an illegal act. That doesn't make you illegal as a person. And well, people seeking asylum aren't breaking the law </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 02/19/21 3:35:21 AM #30:	scar the 1 posted... That doesn't make you illegal as a person. This is just a semantic argument that has no bearing on the issue. The claim isn't that a person is illegal, the claim is that a person who is in the country illegally is a candidate for intervention in accordance with the law. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:950824903] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>That doesn't make you illegal as a person.</quote>This is just a semantic argument that has no bearing on the issue. The claim isn't that a person is illegal, the claim is that a person who is in the country illegally is a candidate for intervention in accordance with the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 02/19/21 3:37:28 AM #31:	scar the 1 posted... Then you've committed an illegal act. That doesn't make you illegal as a person. And well, people seeking asylum aren't breaking the law I really don't know what you guys think that you're going to accomplish with this ridiculous "people can't be illegal" argument. People can damn sure be illegal immigrants, and the vast majority of them are not actually asylum seekers either. It's so strange to me how in the last couple of years so many people started acting like every illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:950824942] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Then you've committed an illegal act. That doesn't make you illegal as a person. And well, people seeking asylum aren't breaking the law</quote>I really don't know what you guys think that you're going to accomplish with this ridiculous "people can't be illegal" argument. People can damn sure be illegal immigrants, and the vast majority of them are not actually asylum seekers either. It's so strange to me how in the last couple of years so many people started acting like every illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:38:41 AM #32:	Gobstoppers12 posted... This is just a semantic argument that has no bearing on the issue. The claim isn't that a person is illegal, the claim is that a person who is in the country illegally is a candidate for intervention in accordance with the law. It's an important semantic argument as referring to people as "illegal" dehumanizes them. They are actual people seeking asylum, and they are fleeing terrible conditions in their home country created by the USA. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824963] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>This is just a semantic argument that has no bearing on the issue. The claim isn't that a person is illegal, the claim is that a person who is in the country illegally is a candidate for intervention in accordance with the law.</quote>It's an important semantic argument as referring to people as "illegal" dehumanizes them. They are actual people seeking asylum, and they are fleeing terrible conditions in their home country created by the USA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 02/19/21 3:40:45 AM #33:	There's a mix of legitimate refugees and people just looking to cut the queue on regular immigration. There's no easy way to tell the difference. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:950824979] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>There's a mix of legitimate refugees and people just looking to cut the queue on regular immigration. There's no easy way to tell the difference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 02/19/21 3:41:55 AM #34:	scar the 1 posted... They are actual people seeking asylum Illegal immigrant and asylum seeker are not synonyms, stop acting like there are no illegal immigrants and only asylum seekers. It's disingenuous as fuck. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:950824999] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>They are actual people seeking asylum</quote>Illegal immigrant and asylum seeker are not synonyms, stop acting like there are no illegal immigrants and only asylum seekers. It's disingenuous as fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:42:01 AM #35:	Tenlaar posted... I really don't know what you guys think that you're going to accomplish with this ridiculous "people can't be illegal" argument. People can damn sure be illegal immigrants, and the vast majority of them are not actually asylum seekers either. It's so strange to me how in the last couple of years so many people started acting like every illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker. Sure, it's true that not every undocumented immigrant is an asylum seeker. They're still not illegal, they're still people, and they're usually at the very lowest end of social standing, working really shitty jobs and keeping the economy going. And if they're from Latin America, they're still fleeing terrible conditions created by the US. So eh --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825003] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>I really don't know what you guys think that you're going to accomplish with this ridiculous "people can't be illegal" argument. People can damn sure be illegal immigrants, and the vast majority of them are not actually asylum seekers either. It's so strange to me how in the last couple of years so many people started acting like every illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker.</quote>Sure, it's true that not every undocumented immigrant is an asylum seeker. They're still not illegal, they're still people, and they're usually at the very lowest end of social standing, working really shitty jobs and keeping the economy going. And if they're from Latin America, they're still fleeing terrible conditions created by the US. So eh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 02/19/21 3:43:14 AM #36:	scar the 1 posted... Sure, it's true that not every undocumented immigrant is an asylum seeker. They're still not illegal, they're still people, and they're usually at the very lowest end of social standing, working really shitty jobs and keeping the economy going. And if they're from Latin America, they're still fleeing terrible conditions created by the US. So eh Yes, they are still illegal immigrants and economic migrants are not asylum seekers. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:950825026] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Sure, it's true that not every undocumented immigrant is an asylum seeker. They're still not illegal, they're still people, and they're usually at the very lowest end of social standing, working really shitty jobs and keeping the economy going. And if they're from Latin America, they're still fleeing terrible conditions created by the US. So eh</quote>Yes, they are still illegal immigrants and economic migrants are not asylum seekers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:45:02 AM #37:	It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825053] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 02/19/21 3:48:18 AM #38:	scar the 1 posted... It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence Why are you insistent on painting the picture that every single illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker fleeing from imminent death? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:950825104] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence</quote>Why are you insistent on painting the picture that every single illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker fleeing from imminent death? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:51:40 AM #39:	Tenlaar posted... Why are you insistent on painting the picture that every single illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker fleeing from imminent death? I'm not, I'm saying that the people you derisively call "economic migrants" have a valid and legitimate reason to leave their homes, and most don't do it because they want to. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825149] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you insistent on painting the picture that every single illegal immigrant is actually an asylum seeker fleeing from imminent death?</quote>I'm not, I'm saying that the people you derisively call "economic migrants" have a valid and legitimate reason to leave their homes, and most don't do it because they want to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/19/21 3:53:33 AM #40:	It's crazy that Bush had more reasonable policies in this area than Obama, Trump, or Biden. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950825173] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>It's crazy that Bush had more reasonable policies in this area than Obama, Trump, or Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 02/19/21 4:02:21 AM #41:	scar the 1 posted... I'm not, I'm saying that the people you derisively call "economic migrants" have a valid and legitimate reason to leave their homes, and most don't do it because they want to. Economic migrant is not a term of derision and you don't seem to be capable of making an argument that is not based entirely on emotion and misrepresenting things. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:950825290] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not, I'm saying that the people you derisively call "economic migrants" have a valid and legitimate reason to leave their homes, and most don't do it because they want to.</quote>Economic migrant is not a term of derision and you don't seem to be capable of making an argument that is not based entirely on emotion and misrepresenting things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuming 02/19/21 4:02:55 AM #42:	scar the 1 posted... It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence There are plenty of places in America that are also ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence that our government doesn't give a shit about whose homes America directly ruined and made that way. It's just a totally fucked up evil country at all points and all across the globe. <cite>fuming posted [p:950825298] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>It's pretty fucked up that America gets to totally ruin your home, then when you leave they get to say "no actually your plight is not legitimate enough, you're just an economic migrant" as if that's not a really valid reason to leave places that are ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence</quote> There are plenty of places in America that are also ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence that our government doesn't give a shit about whose homes America directly ruined and made that way. It's just a totally fucked up evil country at all points and all across the globe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 02/19/21 4:31:12 AM #43:	scar the 1 posted... It's an important semantic argument as referring to people as "illegal" dehumanizes them. Yes, scar. Human beings, including those existing illegally within a nations borders, belong to the species of Homo sapiens. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:950825636] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>It's an important semantic argument as referring to people as "illegal" dehumanizes them.</quote> Yes, scar. Human beings, including those existing illegally within a nations borders, belong to the species of Homo sapiens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 4:57:39 AM #44:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Yes, scar. Human beings, including those existing illegally within a nations borders, belong to the species of Homo sapiens. Thank you fuming posted... There are plenty of places in America that are also ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence that our government doesn't give a shit about whose homes America directly ruined and made that way. It's just a totally fucked up evil country at all points and all across the globe. sure is --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825965] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, scar. Human beings, including those existing illegally within a nations borders, belong to the species of Homo sapiens.</quote>Thank you fuming posted... </cite> <quote>There are plenty of places in America that are also ravaged by drug cartels and gang violence that our government doesn't give a shit about whose homes America directly ruined and made that way. It's just a totally fucked up evil country at all points and all across the globe.</quote>sure is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talk2DaHand 02/19/21 11:17:01 AM #45:	nfearurspecimn posted... So what exactly is a "rescue beacon" supposed to be for? to trick people crossing to get captured? Exactly that --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien <cite>Talk2DaHand posted [p:950833927] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>nfearurspecimn posted... </cite> <quote>So what exactly is a "rescue beacon" supposed to be for? to trick people crossing to get captured?</quote> Exactly that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 11:22:13 AM #46:	All that story shows is that the rescue beacons don't even work. Were they captured after pressing the button? It says they waited 12 hours and nobody came. That would mean nobody came to help or to arrest them. So where are you getting this narrative? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950834096] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>All that story shows is that the rescue beacons don't even work. Were they captured after pressing the button? It says they waited 12 hours and nobody came. That would mean nobody came to help or to arrest them. So where are you getting this narrative? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/19/21 11:26:12 AM #47:	https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/539436-biden-team-unveils-new-ice-deportation-measures?amp "While the Biden administration rightly acknowledges that immigrants are our family members, our coworkers, and our neighbors, for now it has chosen to continue giving ICE officers significant discretion to conduct operations that harm our communities and tear families apart," Naureen Shah, senior advocacy and policy counsel for ACLU, said in a release. "The interim enforcement priorities detailed today import the injustices of the criminal legal system and will lead to continued disproportionate deportations of Black and Brown immigrants. The priorities use sweeping and overbroad presumptions of threat that have for decades resulted in biased profiling," Shah added. The ACLU also criticized the portion of the policy allowing the arrest of anyone that crossed the border illegally after Nov. 1, something they say assumes that all recent border crossers are threats and conflicts with Biden's attempts to redesign the asylum process. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:950834211] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/539436-biden-team-unveils-new-ice-deportation-measures?amp <quote>"While the Biden administration rightly acknowledges that immigrants are our family members, our coworkers, and our neighbors, for now it has chosen to continue giving ICE officers significant discretion to conduct operations that harm our communities and tear families apart," Naureen Shah, senior advocacy and policy counsel for ACLU, said in a release. "The interim enforcement priorities detailed today import the injustices of the criminal legal system and will lead to continued disproportionate deportations of Black and Brown immigrants. The priorities use sweeping and overbroad presumptions of threat that have for decades resulted in biased profiling," Shah added. The ACLU also criticized the portion of the policy allowing the arrest of anyone that crossed the border illegally after Nov. 1, something they say assumes that all recent border crossers are threats and conflicts with Biden's attempts to redesign the asylum process.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 11:34:12 AM #49:	Dude, I despise ICE. You should probably check your emotional outbursts before posting if you can't handle questions. Again, that picture you posted showed absolutely nothing you were claiming. I'm not saying it's not true. I'm saying that picture is not evidence. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950834452] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Dude, I despise ICE. You should probably check your emotional outbursts before posting if you can't handle questions. Again, that picture you posted showed absolutely nothing you were claiming. I'm not saying it's not true. I'm saying that picture is not evidence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 02/19/21 11:37:57 AM #50:	Damn TC got rekt in this topic --- I will admit I'm wrong if you prove me wrong. It's how it always should be <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:950834559] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Damn TC got rekt in this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 02/19/21 2:15:22 PM #51:	Talk2DaHand posted... Exactly that lmfao this world sucks --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:950840437] in Biden admi... [t:79304079]...</cite> <quote>Talk2DaHand posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly that </quote>lmfao this world sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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