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Funkydog
02/17/21 1:31:52 PM
#103:


I4NRulez posted...
I dont know why you'd take someone who thinks the US borders south america and thinks mexico is part of central america seriously on anything regarding the world.
I'm more just shocked they are openly using Chinese Government propaganda. We all know they are a genocide denier, but I thought they'd at least be more subtle about where they got their fake and deplorable information from.

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:32:46 PM
#104:


Funkydog posted...
Did you seriously use Chinese Propaganda as evidence China isn't committing genocide?

You aren't even trying to hide it at this point.

Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?

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The Trent
02/17/21 1:33:19 PM
#105:


Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?

Lol

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Broseph_Stalin
02/17/21 1:33:40 PM
#106:


Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people

you are so hopeless
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Funkydog
02/17/21 1:34:25 PM
#107:


Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?
The "news" you linked to is funded and controlled by the Chinese government and you KNOW this as the youtube link has a fucking disclaimer you genocide denier.

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RebelElite791
02/17/21 1:34:29 PM
#108:


Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?
lmao jesus fuck.

Also Mandarin isn't the only Chinese language genius

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:35:36 PM
#109:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
you are so hopeless

Great argument. Always funny to see the ostensible leftists of CE side with Broseph_Stalin, btw.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/17/21 1:36:50 PM
#110:


Shablagoo posted...
Always funny to see the ostensible leftists of CE side with Broseph_Stalin, btw.

"you must deny genocide to be a real leftist" is the saddest attempt at gatekeeping ever

you are literally no different than an alt-right clown who falls down the same kind of youtube rabbit hole
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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:37:33 PM
#111:


RebelElite791 posted...
lmao jesus fuck.

Also Mandarin isn't the only Chinese language genius

More than 70% of the population speaks Mandarin, and I doubt Adrian Zenz speaks any language spoken in China outside of English (...and that, only barely).

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The Trent
02/17/21 1:38:22 PM
#112:


The Trent posted...
Lol


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Choco
02/17/21 1:38:54 PM
#113:


Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?
should i believe my parents who watch russian propaganda all day when they talk about how wonderful and perfect putin is

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SPE
02/17/21 1:39:43 PM
#114:


Shablagoo posted...
but is Mexico not part of Central America??

nope. I guess you are a Chinese account after all

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Funkydog
02/17/21 1:40:46 PM
#115:


Look how he ignores the fact his evidence is Chinese government propaganda :)

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The Trent
02/17/21 1:41:49 PM
#116:


Can we get back to talking about LANDLORDS

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Balrog0
02/17/21 1:42:06 PM
#117:


Shablagoo posted...
Great argument. Always funny to see the ostensible leftists of CE side with Broseph_Stalin, btw.

The actual leftists pretty much always ignore this when you do it though

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fohstick
02/17/21 1:46:55 PM
#118:


Yes, China will overtake the US in GDP.
Yes, China will buyout all your property.
Yes, China will take over HK.
Yes, China will become the AI superpower.
Yes, China will be a leader in renewable energy.
Yes, China will overtake your precious video games.

China, I kneel.
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UnholyMudcrab
02/17/21 1:48:14 PM
#119:


RebelElite791 posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Why do you think statements about China that come directly from Chinese people are less reliable than those that come from people who have never been to China and dont even speak Mandarin?
lmao jesus fuck.

Also Mandarin isn't the only Chinese language genius

The CCP sure wants it to be, though.
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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:49:05 PM
#120:


Choco posted...
should i believe my parents who watch russian propaganda all day when they talk about how wonderful and perfect putin is

Is there such a thing as U.S. propaganda as well or do you dismiss that possibility outright?

P.S. Propaganda can be truthful, it is not necessarily misinformation.

Balrog0 posted...
The actual leftists pretty much always ignore this when you do it though

Pardon me, do you mind elaborating?

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RebelElite791
02/17/21 1:50:11 PM
#121:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
The CCP sure wants it to be, though.
Very true! But I'm sure that's fake news too!

Shablagoo posted...
P.S. Propaganda can be truthful, it is not necessarily misinformation.
lmao

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Balrog0
02/17/21 1:52:42 PM
#122:


Shablagoo posted...
Pardon me, do you mind elaborating?

What's confusing about it? The people who identify as leftists and socialists rarely post in your topics about china. No one responding to you here seems to be particularly worried about identifying as a leftist

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:53:48 PM
#123:


RebelElite791 posted...
lmao

Thats the definition of propaganda. It often refers to misleading information but it also describes regular information.

Balrog0 posted...
What's confusing about it? The people who identify as leftists and socialists rarely post in your topics about china. No one responding to you here seems to be particularly worried about identifying as a leftist

Ah, true.

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The Trent
02/17/21 1:54:42 PM
#124:


Luckily you are in a position as such to tell the difference between ccp misleading propaganda and actual informative ccp propaganda

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Esrac
02/17/21 1:57:19 PM
#125:


Shablagoo posted...
Great argument. Always funny to see the ostensible leftists of CE side with Broseph_Stalin, btw.

You are truly the only individual exceptional enough to unite the Left and the Right on this board in mutual loathing.
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Shablagoo
02/17/21 1:58:28 PM
#126:


The Trent posted...
Luckily you are in a position as such to tell the difference between ccp misleading propaganda and actual informative ccp propaganda

Its not me automatically assuming anything bad said about China is truthful.

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RebelElite791
02/17/21 1:59:35 PM
#128:


Esrac posted...
You are truly the only individual exceptional enough to unite the Left and the Right on this board in mutual loathing.
tbf joel is also good at that. But he's also a tankie genocide denier

Shablagoo posted...
Its not me automatically assuming anything bad said about China is truthful.
It's you assuming anything bad about China is false and anything the CCP says is truthful

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 2:00:47 PM
#129:


Esrac posted...
You are truly the only individual exceptional enough to unite the Left and the Right on this board in mutual loathing.

The American left and right stand strong together in their opposition to communists, yes.

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Funkydog
02/17/21 2:02:01 PM
#130:


Shablagoo posted...
The American left and right stand strong together in their opposition to communists, yes.
Is this what peek trolling looks like?

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 2:02:50 PM
#131:


*peak

and no, i am the furthest one ITT from trolling.

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Esrac
02/17/21 2:03:11 PM
#132:


Shablagoo posted...
The American left and right stand strong together in their opposition to communists, yes.

An entirely noble goal. I love to see such bipartisanship.
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RebelElite791
02/17/21 2:03:14 PM
#133:


Shablagoo posted...
*peak

and no, i am the furthest one ITT from trolling.
Being sincere in your genocide denial isnt better

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Choco
02/17/21 2:05:04 PM
#134:


Shablagoo posted...
Is there such a thing as U.S. propaganda as well or do you dismiss that possibility outright?
of course there is lol

what a weird ass way to respond to my post

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 2:05:49 PM
#135:


Esrac posted...
An entirely noble goal. I love to see such bipartisanship.

An elite class of capitalists exploiting everyone else is noble to you?

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Esrac
02/17/21 2:07:33 PM
#136:


Shablagoo posted...
An elite class of capitalists exploiting everyone else is noble to you?

Sure. Let's go with that.
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Funkydog
02/17/21 2:09:23 PM
#138:


Shablagoo posted...
*peak

and no, i am the furthest one ITT from trolling.
Being sincere in genocide denial makes you a horrible person.

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Shablagoo
02/17/21 2:12:12 PM
#139:


Esrac posted...
Sure. Let's go with that.

Ah, ok. I find that gross.

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What if we lifted millions out of poverty in short order instead?

Funkydog posted...
Being sincere in genocide denial makes you a horrible person.

This is true. Anyone who denies a genocide is either horrible or ignorant.

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Funkydog
02/17/21 2:14:46 PM
#140:


Shablagoo posted...
This is true. Anyone who denies a genocide is either horrible or ignorant.
Yes you are horrible and ignorant.

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nfearurspecimn
02/17/21 2:16:10 PM
#141:


I don't like the CCP but this is reaching propaganda territory.

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teep_
02/17/21 2:19:31 PM
#142:


I still dislike the point you and scar made in that one topic that you have to be at least socialist to count as a leftist
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UnholyMudcrab
02/17/21 2:21:09 PM
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COVxy
02/17/21 2:22:25 PM
#144:


teep_ posted...
I still dislike the point you and scar made in that one topic that you have to be at least socialist to count as a leftist

Most people who call themselves leftists are just run of the mill democrats that were tricked into thinking Bernie's ideology was "extreme"/"counter-culture", tbh.

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iPhone_7
02/17/21 2:22:59 PM
#145:


What excuse did he make for whats happening to the Uyghur people?

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Funkydog
02/17/21 2:23:45 PM
#146:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Welp, there he goes
Actually surprised they did anything this time. Suspension isn't really nearly enough though but something I guess?

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Esrac
02/17/21 2:24:51 PM
#147:


iPhone_7 posted...
What excuse did he make for whats happening to the Uyghur people?

That it wasn't, but hey, the US has something questionable going on at the US - South American border.
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EzeDoesIt
02/17/21 2:30:00 PM
#149:


teep_ posted...
I still dislike the point you and scar made in that one topic that you have to be at least socialist to count as a leftist

Im curious as to what your parameters would be. I know many socialists view any capitalist as basically right-wing, but I also know that there are capitalists who agree with socialists on certain things such as equal rights/protection from discrimination by employers.

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teep_
02/17/21 2:30:25 PM
#150:


COVxy posted...
teep_ posted...
I still dislike the point you and scar made in that one topic that you have to be at least socialist to count as a leftist

Most people who call themselves leftists are just run of the mill democrats that were tricked into thinking Bernie's ideology was "extreme"/"counter-culture", tbh.

I don't see how that's relevant to me, a European
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teep_
02/17/21 2:31:59 PM
#151:


EzeDoesIt posted...
teep_ posted...
I still dislike the point you and scar made in that one topic that you have to be at least socialist to count as a leftist

Im curious as to what your parameters would be. I know many socialists view any capitalist as basically right-wing, but I also know that there are capitalists who agree with socialists on certain things such as equal rights/protection from discrimination by employers.

I consider myself left wing. Socially, I'm very much what some people would perjoratively refer to as 'sjw'. Economically, I believe we should have capitalism but that it should be highly regulated by government. As well as the welfare state, protections, etc
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Broseph_Stalin
02/17/21 2:32:12 PM
#152:


Anyone to the right of Mao is considered right-wing on the internet.
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