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Antifar
02/15/21 5:50:42 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/15/us/politics/adam-kinzinger-republicans-trump.html
Two days after Mr. Kinzinger called for removing Mr. Trump from office following the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, 11 members of his family sent him a handwritten two-page letter, saying he was in cahoots with the devils army for making a public break with the president.

Oh my, what a disappointment you are to us and to God! they wrote. You have embarrassed the Kinzinger family name!

The author of the letter was Karen Otto, Mr. Kinzingers cousin, who paid $7 to send it by certified mail to Mr. Kinzingers father to make sure the congressman would see it, which he did. She also sent copies to Republicans across Illinois, including other members of the states congressional delegation.
I wanted Adam to be shunned, she said in an interview.
A 42-year-old Air National Guard pilot who represents a crescent-shaped district along the Chicagos suburbs, Mr. Kinzinger is at the forefront of the effort to navigate post-Trump politics. He is betting his political career, professional relationships and kinship with a wing of his sprawling family that his partys future lies in disavowing Mr. Trump and the conspiracy theories the former president stoked.

Mr. Kinzinger was one of just three House Republicans who voted both to impeach Mr. Trump and strip Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia from her committee posts. During the House impeachment debate, he asked Democrats if he could speak for seven minutes instead of his allotted one, so that he could make a more authoritative and bipartisan argument against the president; the request was denied.

He has taken his case to the national media, becoming a ubiquitous figure on cable television, late-night HBO programming and podcasts. He began a new political action committee with a six-minute video declaring the need to re-format the Republican Party into something resembling an idealized version of George W. Bushs party with an emphasis on lower taxes, hawkish defense and social conservatism without the grievances and conspiracy theories that Mr. Trump and his allies have made central to the partys identity.

https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/1361343403615784961?s=19

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VipaGTS
02/15/21 5:52:07 PM
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the GOP fully embracing the lunatic conspiracy theories in the open is so weird...you'd think it would make people see how insane they are, but its making people like them more. This country is fucked.

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Orchestrion
02/15/21 5:53:04 PM
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Bleuets
02/15/21 5:53:10 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
the GOP fully embracing the lunatic conspiracy theories in the open is so weird...you'd think it would make people see how insane they are, but its making people like them more. This country is fucked.

is? More like always has been my dude. Youre just now opening your eyes to the truth.
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ScazarMeltex
02/15/21 5:53:30 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
the GOP fully embracing the lunatic conspiracy theories in the open is so weird...you'd think it would make people see how insane they are, but its making people like them more. This country is fucked.
I mean they've been on this path for decades now, it shouldn't be surprising. They've been catering to the conspiracy nut crowd for so long that those people are now the party rather than the fringe.

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ImmatureContent
02/15/21 5:53:36 PM
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Stupidity should be a crime.

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Bleuets
02/15/21 5:54:16 PM
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ImmatureContent posted...
Stupidity should be a crime.

but then who would come to gamefaqs?!

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Alucard188
02/15/21 5:55:04 PM
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With all this stupid shit in the US, maybe it's a good thing that they aren't the leader of the free world anymore. >_>

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/15/21 5:58:06 PM
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Republicans can never admit they ever did anything wrong so whatever direction the party goes in they claim they support and it becomes their new platform.

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Ruvan22
02/15/21 5:59:16 PM
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Have any of CEs resident right wingers weighed in/approved of these censurings? Annihilated, Houston, Gobstoppers, Lathismus, GatorPENS, Caution, RealDill, Differential Equations, Yellow Mustard, Sad Face etc?
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CouldBeAnAlt
02/15/21 6:00:33 PM
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They're guilty of wrongthink

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DarthAragorn
02/15/21 6:01:49 PM
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This country is so fucking shitty
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OmegaPillow
02/15/21 6:03:03 PM
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Its no different than democrats trying censor people for not agreeing with their point of views

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ChocoboMog123
02/15/21 6:03:25 PM
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CouldBeAnAlt posted...
They're guilty of wrongthink
It's sad that ultimately this statement could mean anything. Are you criticizing the GOP, Mitt Romney, Democrats, GameFAQs, your cat? In 2021, it could be anything...

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Fluttershy
02/15/21 6:04:16 PM
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Oh my, what a disappointment you are to us and to God!

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ScazarMeltex
02/15/21 6:04:17 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
Its no different than democrats trying censor people for not agreeing with their point of views
"Not agreeing with their point of views" Odd way to say "calling us out for our bigotry".

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OmegaPillow
02/15/21 6:05:17 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
"Not agreeing with their point of views" Odd way to say "calling us out for our bigotry".
What are you even talking about ?

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hockeybub89
02/15/21 6:05:29 PM
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If you have to believe a conspiracy theory, then that usually means you're wrong and extremely stupid.

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uwnim
02/15/21 6:06:07 PM
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I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
02/15/21 6:07:52 PM
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Can't believe that Donald freaking Trump is the hill the GOP wants to die on.

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Bio1590
02/15/21 6:11:13 PM
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with an emphasis on lower taxes, hawkish defense and social conservatism


Ultimately this guy is still a piece of shit lol
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Antifar
02/15/21 6:12:08 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Ultimately this guy is still a piece of shit lol
When you're right, you're right

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Ruvan22
02/15/21 6:13:02 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
Its no different than democrats trying censor people for not agreeing with their point of views
Which state Democrat parties have censured their elected federal senators and congress people?
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Bio1590
02/15/21 6:14:31 PM
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Antifar posted...

When you're right, you're right

It's like how there's people on Reddit cheering on Raffensperger for what he did and calling him a "good guy"...like people don't understand he's still trying his hardest right now in conjunction with the rest of Georgia's GOP to make sure 2020 doesn't happen again in Georgia...
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KlRBEH
02/15/21 6:22:04 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Can't believe that Donald freaking Trump is the hill the GOP wants to die on.
There are so many Americans that are fucking idiots that it doesn't matter at the end of the day

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SPE
02/15/21 7:13:11 PM
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m
Alucard188 posted...
With all this stupid shit in the US, maybe it's a good thing that they aren't the leader of the free world anymore. >_>

they? Where u from?

also, who is the new leader?

I dont disagree with the part about the stupidity, though

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Sayoria
02/15/21 7:15:48 PM
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Brainworms. Poor Republicans have a shit ton of brainworms.

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OmegaPillow
02/15/21 7:43:12 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Which state Democrat parties have censured their elected federal senators and congress people?
They dont need too, most democrats in office are cowards and are afraid to speak their mind but theyre okay with censoring everything

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Irony
02/15/21 7:44:00 PM
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Censuring is not even a slap on the hand. A literal slap on the hand is a worse punishment

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Questionmarktarius
02/15/21 7:44:30 PM
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Oh no! Not an angry letter!
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hockeybub89
02/15/21 7:45:18 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
They dont need too, most democrats in office are cowards and are afraid to speak their mind but theyre okay with censoring everything
I'm really glad I don't live in the timeline where Democrats are censoring everything. That sounds like a hellhole.

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HylianFox
02/15/21 7:47:12 PM
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The author of the letter was Karen Otto

figures

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Tyranthraxus
02/15/21 7:47:43 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
It's like how there's people on Reddit cheering on Raffensperger for what he did and calling him a "good guy"...like people don't understand he's still trying his hardest right now in conjunction with the rest of Georgia's GOP to make sure 2020 doesn't happen again in Georgia...

Georgia went blue so politically Kemp and friends have everything to gain from going hard on Trump and nothing to lose since a repeat of the last election means they're all out of jobs.


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Robot2600
02/15/21 7:53:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Georgia went blue so politically Kemp and friends have everything to gain from going hard on Trump and nothing to lose since a repeat of the last election means they're all out of jobs.

Young people just aren't as stupid as old people. They are out of jobs no matter what.
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Tyranthraxus
02/15/21 7:56:43 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Young people just aren't as stupid as old people. They are out of jobs no matter what.
I think you underestimate the never trumpers here. They are significant enough population to change things.


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Ruvan22
02/15/21 9:00:45 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
They dont need too, most democrats in office are cowards and are afraid to speak their mind but theyre okay with censoring everything

So .. your comparison is invalid? As in no Democrats have so it's just in your mind?
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Taharqa_
02/15/21 9:06:07 PM
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The Republican party is an extremist party, point blank.

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Antifar
02/16/21 12:51:25 PM
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eston
02/16/21 1:01:33 PM
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A censure is basically just a formal way of saying "we don't like that you did that." In this case it was for going against party lines. I would expect dems to do the same if any of their people had voted against impeaching or convicting Trump

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COVxy
02/16/21 1:03:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/jjabbott/status/1361479188994273281?s=19

Whoops, he said the inside thing out loud.

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Ruvan22
02/16/21 5:02:37 PM
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eston posted...
A censure is basically just a formal way of saying "we don't like that you did that." In this case it was for going against party lines. I would expect dems to do the same if any of their people had voted against impeaching or convicting Trump
Did any Dems get censured when Clinton was impeached or tried?
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onedarksoul
02/16/21 5:14:33 PM
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As they should be. Voting to convict when they had no case is just idiocy.

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Ruvan22
02/16/21 5:18:18 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
As they should be. Voting to convict when they had no case is just idiocy.
Interestingly a lot of legal scholars decided they *did* have a case... where'd you get your JD from?
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onedarksoul
02/16/21 5:23:11 PM
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How do you have a case with no witnesses?

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monkmith
02/16/21 5:27:41 PM
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saw this story about a legislator getting a letter from a large chunk of his family declaring him a supporter of the devil and revoking his last name because he voted against trump...

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Intro2Logic
02/16/21 5:29:32 PM
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monkmith posted...
saw this story about a legislator getting a letter from a large chunk of his family declaring him a supporter of the devil and revoking his last name because he voted against trump...
You mean in the first post of this topic?

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Stewman_Magoo
02/16/21 5:39:41 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
The Republican party is an extremist party, point blank.

They're literally America's Taliban...

...arguably WORSE because at least the Taliban have an end goal, Republicans are just stupid because it's their constitutional right to be ignorant.

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Ruvan22
02/16/21 6:14:31 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
How do you have a case with no witnesses?
When the defendant's supporters refuse to allow them...
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onedarksoul
02/16/21 6:15:42 PM
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No, it was the Dems who refused them. You aren't informed on these matters, I see.

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