Current Events > "Working class"

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Lol.

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lol?

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lol.

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Olo

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people who work don't have class lol

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Haha what an oxymoron, am I correct fellow bourgeoisie

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What

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This is your worst post so far.

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so now youre just straight mocking the class conscious or what? do you recognize youre letting yourself get more derisive and dismissive over time?

It's the in way to say middle class and ignore the poor. But it definitely indicates you're down with the left!

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I just don't like the emphasis on work

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You're increasingly reminding me of Broseph. Sad.

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COVxy posted...

It's the in way to say middle class and ignore the poor. But it definitely indicates you're down with the left!

I personally have not encountered someone who uses the phrase "working class" and omits the working poor from that descriptor

Godnorgosh posted...

No, working class =/= middle class. It includes the working poor.

But effectively when any politician says "policy for the working class" they mean "policy for the middle class".

Hell, Bernie just tweeted that restricting the stimulus checks to 50k salary was an attack on the working class lol.

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COVxy posted...

But effectively when any politician says "policy for the working class" they mean "policy for the middle class".

Hell, Bernie just tweeted that restricting the stimulus checks to 50k salary was an attack on the working class lol.

the middle class falls under the umbrella of working class though...so...

PHD holder COVxy looks down from his ivory tower of academia and SMITES the working class

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Thighon posted...

the middle class falls under the umbrella of working class though...so...

Exactly why it's used as a replacement for the middle class and only as an indicator for anything else.

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If different segments of the "working class" require very different treatment, and political capital is much more easily won by appealing to one particular segment, it's pretty obvious that the terms is both useless and corruptible.

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There is really no such thing as the middle class anymore. Or if there is its beyond dwindling.

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COVxy posted...

and political capital is much more easily won by appealing to one particular segment

Is that the case?

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Balrog0 posted...

Is that the case?

I'd imagine so, otherwise it's weird that the politicians have always postured so hard for the middle class, across both major parties.

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I don't get really get it. Maybe politicians do favor the middle class (debatable) but even if they do that wouldn't prove appealing to the middle class is the most effective use of political capital. For example, if the term working class is meant to sneak middle class people into conversations about poverty, that's evidence it's more effective to make broad appeals

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legendary_zell posted...

This is your worst post so far.

His posts arguing against age of consent laws are worse.

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Balrog0 posted...

I don't get really get it. Maybe politicians do favor the middle class (debatable) but even if they do that wouldn't prove appealing to the middle class is the most effective use of political capital. For example, if the term working class is meant to sneak middle class people into conversations about poverty, that's evidence it's more effective to make broad appeals

I mean, the obvious political calculus here is turnout multiplied by population size. This is almost guaranteed to indicate that middle class is the largest voting pool. Effective however? That's a very tricky question.

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Just to be clear, I don't think "working class" is typically broadening appeal by appealing to the lower class.

Lower class issues are never on the debate stage, at best are buried in policy commitments and forgotten about by first term.

Idk, maybe it's unfair to expect the government to do well by its most disenfranchised without the middle class popping up and saying "but what about us?"

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COVxy posted...

Just to be clear, I don't think "working class" is typically broadening appeal by appealing to the lower class.

Lower class issues are never on the debate stage, at best are buried in policy commitments and forgotten about by first term.

Idk, maybe it's unfair to expect the government to do well by its most disenfranchised without the middle class popping up and saying "but what about us?"

I mean yeah politicians suck but as far as terminology goes working class just means people who do manual/industrial labor. So, the lower class is part of the working class.

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TheLiarParadox posted...

You're increasingly reminding me of Broseph. Sad.

TC has been a joke for quite some time now

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Shablagoo posted...

I mean yeah politicians suck but as far as terminology goes working class just means people who do manual/industrial labor. So, the lower class is part of the working class.

I just think that maybe if the term references a class size so large and diverse in terms of needs, things like "we need to put the working class first again" are either meaningless or likely to default to referencing a select portion of that class, which is going to be the easiest political target.

I think the term does us almost no good, except signalling that maybe you don't feel so fondly about capitalism. Which is a good thing, but that's really beside the point.

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Godnorgosh posted...

This, also, is too strict. While it does largely entail blue-collar work, it includes some white and pink-collar work, as well. The most fundamental condition is that members of the working class rely exclusively (or at least almost exclusively) on earnings from wage labor.

This was closer to my understanding of the term as well. Essentially anyone who doesn't make their money by owning capital.

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What is pink collar?

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SPE posted...

What is pink collar?

Female dominated fields, like nursing.

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