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SquirtleSkwad 02/05/21 3:47:19 PM #1: |
Visions IS alive! Thank god (Wanda)! And All the citizens are real people under a painful spell! But I know it's not Wanda. At least not directly. It's Agnes. Oh my god!
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CableZL 02/05/21 3:48:05 PM #2: |
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SquirtleSkwad 02/05/21 3:48:52 PM #3: |
CableZL posted...
I think he'll be okay, tbh. Wanda won't let him die if she can help it. She can extend this much easier to a single synthezoid than an entire town, I'm sure. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 02/05/21 3:49:58 PM #4: |
Well, jury is still out on Vision's status. He is resistant to her spells, and was still all corpsified at one point.
I also agree that Agnes probably instigated everything, then Wanda just hijacked everything for herself. --- Work in progress, please be patient. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 02/05/21 3:50:51 PM #5: |
KogaSteelfang posted...
Well, jury is still out on Vision's status. He is resistant to her spells, and was still all corpsified at one point.I still think Agnes is the one in control. She's got Wanda under some sort of spell. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 02/05/21 4:15:46 PM #6: |
OH MY GOD! IT'S
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g0ldie 02/05/21 4:29:49 PM #7: |
"shitty"
you're tripping; he's a lot better than the Age of Ultron version. --- The means of production should belong to the collective unconscious ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leanaunfurled 02/05/21 4:34:58 PM #8: |
This episode was wild and I loved it a ton!
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lolife67 02/05/21 4:35:16 PM #9: |
g0ldie posted...
"shitty"Not even close. Power levels don't equal good characterization. MCU Pietro is much closer to his comic version. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Christian RULES 02/05/21 4:36:08 PM #10: |
Did anyone mention
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g0ldie 02/05/21 4:37:02 PM #11: |
lolife67 posted...
Not even close. Power levels don't equal good characterization. MCU Pietro is much closer to his comic version.I was talking about his character --- The means of production should belong to the collective unconscious ... Copied to Clipboard!
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seankimberley42 02/05/21 4:37:15 PM #12: |
g0ldie posted...
"shitty"Seriously. Hell hes really the only reason to watch the last few X-Men movies. Well, minus maybe the last one as I havent seen it to judge it. Regardless, its literally the genesis of the Marvel/X-Men cinematic universe crossover so its definitely getting me pumped. --- " That was just stupidity on my part." - NEOverlook13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 02/05/21 4:37:50 PM #13: |
g0ldie posted...
I was talking about his characterOk, then I definitely stand by my statement of "not even close." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 02/05/21 4:41:13 PM #14: |
KogaSteelfang posted...
Well, jury is still out on Vision's status. He is resistant to her spells, and was still all corpsified at one point.Why's everyone ignoring the children? She can't control them either. They --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deja Blue 03 02/05/21 4:45:17 PM #15: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
Why's everyone ignoring the children? She can't control them either. They We're not ignoring it, we just didn't put it together yet with everything else going on. Good point. --- "I can eat 50 eggs." -Cool Hand Luke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 02/05/21 4:47:13 PM #16: |
I posted on another board that the fact the twins are the only things in Westview that were created from nothing is telling.
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Shablagoo 02/05/21 4:48:54 PM #17: |
So wait why do people keep calling
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SquirtleSkwad 02/05/21 4:49:51 PM #18: |
seankimberley42 posted...
Seriously. Hell hes really the only reason to watch the last few X-Men movies. Well, minus maybe the last one as I havent seen it to judge it. Regardless, its literally the genesis of the Marvel/X-Men cinematic universe crossover so its definitely getting me pumped.He's entertaining to watch, yeah. But the Pietro from Age of Ultron was way more in line with the comic version and what I prefer. I know MCU fans hand-wave a lot of the source material with the "loosely adapted" argument, but for fans of the comics it's a different feeling. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Simon_Gruber 02/05/21 4:50:56 PM #19: |
Christian RULES posted...
Did anyone mention ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 02/05/21 5:00:26 PM #20: |
Shablagoo posted...
So wait why do people keep callingYes. And the actor in this episode played him in the Fox movies, although he was name "Peter." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 02/05/21 5:00:58 PM #21: |
Simon_Gruber posted...
It didn't happen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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seankimberley42 02/05/21 5:09:45 PM #22: |
SquirtleSkwad posted...
He's entertaining to watch, yeah. But the Pietro from Age of Ultron was way more in line with the comic version and what I prefer. I know MCU fans hand-wave a lot of the source material with the "loosely adapted" argument, but for fans of the comics it's a different feeling. Right, well, as a comic book fan and collector since the early Eighties I enjoy this version much more than the MCU version, and while Ive had many conversations about the MCU and X-Men universe with my comic loving friends, I have to say I cant recall any of them actually liking the MCU version. In fact, about the only times I remember him being brought up is when we talk about dumbest deaths in the movies. --- " That was just stupidity on my part." - NEOverlook13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 02/05/21 5:09:49 PM #23: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
Why's everyone ignoring the children? She can't control them either. TheyNot ignoring them, they're likely the key behind the whole thing. It's just someone was pulling the strings to get them there. Their arrival was probably the goal, especially with the "all for the children" chant that was happening without any children in town. --- Work in progress, please be patient. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 02/05/21 5:16:35 PM #24: |
KogaSteelfang posted...
Not ignoring them, they're likely the key behind the whole thing. It's just someone was pulling the strings to get them there. Their arrival was probably the goal, especially with the "all for the children" chant that was happening without any children in town.What episode did that happen in? Only talk of kids I recall was between Wanda and vision. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 02/05/21 5:23:15 PM #25: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
What episode did that happen in? Only talk of kids I recall was between Wanda and vision.Second episode. Planning the talent show with Dottie, they all chant it several times through out the episode. The show was apparently for the kids, but none even exist in town at all, which is worrisome considering it was a real town beforehand. --- Work in progress, please be patient. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 02/05/21 5:38:15 PM #26: |
Shablagoo posted...
So wait why do people keep calling --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokison 02/05/21 8:42:39 PM #27: |
InfinityMonster posted...
She was there as a kid in his intro. You see her standing by the stairs irrc, but shes never named. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 02/05/21 8:49:24 PM #28: |
Lokison posted...
She was there as a kid in his intro. You see her standing by the stairs irrc, but shes never named. wrong sister. there's another sister mentioned in dialog, but she never appears on screen. the assumption is that she was wanda, but they never got that far. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 02/05/21 8:50:34 PM #29: |
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LeadPipeCinche 02/05/21 8:54:22 PM #30: |
She is also seen watching TV with him as well
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g0ldie 02/05/21 9:00:30 PM #31: |
here's the audio description from the ending scene:
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Lokison 02/05/21 9:05:51 PM #32: |
Medussa posted...
wrong sister. there's another sister mentioned in dialog, but she never appears on screen. the assumption is that she was wanda, but they never got that far.Been a minutes since I saw the movie but I could have sworn it was implied that she was Wanda but because she was still so young (prepubescent) she didnt have powers and no one could have know about it. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 02/05/21 9:09:45 PM #33: |
Lokison posted...
Been a minutes since I saw the movie but I could have sworn it was implied that she was Wanda but because she was still so young (prepubescent) she didnt have powers and no one could have know about it. i think it was the rogue cut that established the second sister. so, i think the original version might have been written for the younger girl to be Wanda, but at some point they remembered that they were supposed to be twins, so they wrote in a fix. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokison 02/05/21 9:16:30 PM #34: |
Medussa posted...
i think it was the rogue cut that established the second sister. so, i think the original version might have been written for the younger girl to be Wanda, but at some point they remembered that they were supposed to be twins, so they wrote in a fix.Fair enough, I just assumed it was Fox taking one if their very many liberties --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 02/05/21 9:18:07 PM #35: |
So any thoughts on who the neurospace engineer or whatever Monica mentioned is? She mentioned needing one and started texting someone but never gave a name.
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Medussa 02/05/21 9:25:37 PM #36: |
DarthAragorn posted...
So any thoughts on who the neurospace engineer or whatever Monica mentioned is? She mentioned needing one and started texting someone but never gave a name. lots of speculation on this one --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 02/05/21 9:48:00 PM #37: |
DarthAragorn posted...
So any thoughts on who the neurospace engineer or whatever Monica mentioned is? She mentioned needing one and started texting someone but never gave a name.Whoever it is, I'm assuming it's her Skrull friend. --- Work in progress, please be patient. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokison 02/05/21 9:53:10 PM #38: |
Medussa posted...
lots of speculation on this oneWhy'd you put that in spoiler text? --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 02/05/21 9:56:37 PM #39: |
Lokison posted...
Why'd you put that in spoiler text? i always over protect spoilers. i believe that speculation deserves an extra barrier, as some people prefer to talk about what has happened without reading about what other people think might happen. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 02/05/21 10:10:25 PM #40: |
So Spider Man Far From Home teased the multiverse thing, and WandaVision pretty much confirms it now with X-Men Quicksilver, and then of course Loki coming up which will go all in on that
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InfinityMonster 02/05/21 10:32:33 PM #41: |
Lokison posted...
Been a minutes since I saw the movie but I could have sworn it was implied that she was Wanda but because she was still so young (prepubescent) she didnt have powers and no one could have know about it. Medussa posted... i think it was the rogue cut that established the second sister. so, i think the original version might have been written for the younger girl to be Wanda, but at some point they remembered that they were supposed to be twins, so they wrote in a fix.I don't think the little girl was ever supposed to be Wanda. Wanda was not allowed to be mentioned in the Fox movies per the AoU/DoFP deal. They just expanded it on in the Rogue Cut. When Wolverine, Professor X and Beast enter their home, the little girl goes up to Wolverine and says she's a princess and he's like "I'm the Wolverine" and then asks her where her brother is and she tells him. Then the mom tells her to go bug her sister upstairs, so she responds by saying her sister is the one that bugs her. MacadamianNut3 posted... So Spider Man Far From Home teased the multiverse thing, and WandaVision pretty much confirms it now with X-Men Quicksilver, and then of course Loki coming up which will go all in on that --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 02/05/21 10:39:16 PM #42: |
Yeah I know Mysterio made it up in the movie, I'm talking about the general progression of the movies and now TV series for the next phase of the MCU. I said it was a "tease" because he was lying about it, if he was telling the truth that wouldn't be a tease it would be an established thing in the MCU at that point. The fact that it was mentioned at all is what I'm talking about
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InfinityMonster 02/05/21 10:44:20 PM #43: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
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MacadamianNut3 02/05/21 10:49:30 PM #44: |
Bruh
I'm not talking about some asshole in a movie lying. I am talking about the concept of the Multiverse in the MCU being mentioned at all, and Godzilla is clearly not an actual comparison for this since I don't see Godzilla roaming around in WandaVision. I watched Spider Man 2, I knew Mysterio was lying while watching the movie as it was revealed how is this hard --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 02/05/21 10:53:06 PM #45: |
InfinityMonster posted...
How was someone lying about something a tease?Because unlike your ridiculous Godzilla example, a multiverse exists in Marvel. Any time certain terms are used would be a tease. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 02/05/21 10:57:58 PM #46: |
Nah, I get what you're saying. I was saying that was just a "sike! There's really no multiverse" moment. There was a whole plot that revolved around that. A tease would have been an after credits
dave_is_slick posted... Because unlike your ridiculous Godzilla example, a multiverse exists in Marvel. Any time certain terms are used would be a tease.Godzilla also existed in Marvel and the only reason he currently doesn't is because of rights. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 02/05/21 10:59:02 PM #47: |
Also, Mysterio said a person from another universe is exactly the kind of thing people will believe right now. Perhaps something had recently caused an uproar about that possibility before being covered up.
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InfinityMonster 02/05/21 11:03:08 PM #48: |
@KogaSteelfang
Yeah, that's why I mentioned the 7 months gap. I was thinking more along the lines of Mysterio hearing about that from someone or something happening in that 7 months for him to bring it up. And now when you put the timelines together, it's super strange that would come up right when real shit is happening. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 02/05/21 11:07:21 PM #49: |
remember, take the Sony timeline hints with a grain of salt. wouldn't be the first time something would need retcon'd
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MacadamianNut3 02/05/21 11:09:39 PM #50: |
InfinityMonster posted...
I was saying that was just a "sike! There's really no multiverse" moment. There was a whole plot that revolved around that.Once again I watched the movie so....duh. I'm not sure if you realize what a teaser is. Iron Man 1. Rhodey looks at an Iron Man suit and says "not today" which is a teaser for War Machine. It's a teaser, at that point even before Iron Man 2 was produced, because War Machine is a thing in the comics. The Multiverse being mentioned at all is a teaser because the Multiverse is a thing in the Marvel comics. If the concept of alternate realities wasn't so entwined with time travel in general you could say Endgame was one huge teaser for the Multiverse in the MCU when that movie was released, but it was too vague at that point. Honestly if you don't get it at this point I did my best to explain it but it's a lost cause --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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