Poll of the Day > ff12 was really kinda just weird

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like such a weird departure from typical final fantasy titles
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i bet it originally was not meant to be a final fantasy title
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It was originally gonna be a Vagrant Story MMO

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doubt that, the creator of ff12 said he just wanted to combine the two games, and FFT, into one universe.

and it doesn't feel anything like vagrant story
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It was originally gonna be a Tactics Advance spin-off

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The game was originally being made with Basche as the main character and then they switched leadership in the middle of development and Vaan was added. It's why there is no character development for the player team.

It was originally gonna be a Bejeweled clone but with bunny girls

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I havent played it but its on gamepass soon so maybe Ill finally give it a try

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It's really terrible, but that's par for the course for Final Fantasy.

But yeah, a shoe-horned in pretty boy main character who has no bearing at all on the plot; instead of either the princess trying to save her kingdom or the knight sworn to protect her. One of the most idiotic progression systems they ever devised where you need to pay skill points for every single item upgrade, rather than perhaps just a tier of hats or something. Some MMO-like fun moments of badass level 50 juggernauts wandering the level five zone.

It's funny how many people complained that the game played itself. It really didn't--but it did pave the way for FF13 which did play itself. I mainly used it to automate buffing up and healing after combat.

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everything you said is wrong
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Rotpar posted...

FF13 which did play itself.

Only really at first

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The game were battles fight themselves & spend most of your time running around at 4x game speed.

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the battles don't fight themselves at all unless you specifically create the gambits to do that though.

you have more agency in battles in ff12 than you do in 10.
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do bodies disappear after you beat enemies?

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It was originally gonna feature Dragon Quest characters crossing over with Looney Tunes characters. Sort of a similar situation to Kingdom Hearts.

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Adam_Savage posted...

the battles don't fight themselves at all unless you specifically create the gambits to do that though.

you have more agency in battles in ff12 than you do in 10.

I don't know. When I played it, I felt like a botter because I just ran my characters everywhere at 2 or 4 x speed and my characters would just wipe out everything, heal and buff themselves, ect. I only manually fought combat against the bosses. It was an interesting system I suppose, final fantasy the idle game.

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STOP YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW!

ff12 is definitive trash because it could not compare in any way shape or form w ES: oblivion

ok not trash but garbage. Level grinding and the old methods at their worst. While open world games (is actual rpgs) were coming to consoles ff12 stayed mired in outdated (even at that time) Repetative gameplay and level grinding that was old gem consoles at their worst.

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...okay

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The Archades bit was weird.

So many zones you have to travel through to get there and even traveling through the city itself is an obstacle.

In other words, there's a lot of time invested into making it to the top of Draklor Laboratory.

And what's the big reward? Dr. Cid telling you to meet him at the Great Crystal.

I only got a few hours into it before quitting but the plot seemed like it was ripping off star wars

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BADoglick posted...

I only got a few hours into it before quitting but the plot seemed like it was ripping off star wars

...what
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Adam_Savage posted...

the battles don't fight themselves at all unless you specifically create the gambits to do that though.

you have more agency in battles in ff12 than you do in 10.

I had my battles fighting themselves lol.

Then did the boss fights

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Adam_Savage posted...

...what

https://www.technobuffalo.com/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-is-the-most-blatant-retelling-of-star-wars-ever

Apparently I'm not the only one who thought so

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I originally played it on PS2 and hated it. But I grabbed it for switch end of 2019 and played it last year and the improvements in Zodiac Age helped me like the game more but it's still not one of my favorites. I did actually beat it finally though.

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Rotpar posted...

It's really terrible, but that's par for the course for Final Fantasy.

But yeah, a shoe-horned in pretty boy main character who has no bearing at all on the plot; instead of either the princess trying to save her kingdom or the knight sworn to protect her. One of the most idiotic progression systems they ever devised where you need to pay skill points for every single item upgrade, rather than perhaps just a tier of hats or something. Some MMO-like fun moments of badass level 50 juggernauts wandering the level five zone.

It's funny how many people complained that the game played itself. It really didn't--but it did pave the way for FF13 which did play itself. I mainly used it to automate buffing up and healing after combat.

13 played itseld as much as 7 did considering all i did in 7 was mash the attack command and heal as needed. But in 13 i mashed the "auto" command and switch paradigms on a regular basis. So really 7 played itself more

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I remember trying the demo of 12 and not liking it one bit...so I never gave the game a try. There was nothing about my experience in the demo I really enjoyed.
mooreandrew58 posted...

So really 7 played itself more

lol

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DANTE20XX posted...

I remember trying the demo of 12 and not liking it one bit...so I never gave the game a try. There was nothing about my experience in the demo I really enjoyed.

lol

Considering i actually had to do more in 13s battles i stand by my statement. If you just mash auto battle and nothing else in 13 you will lose. The ps1 era final fantasys where among the easiest in the series with only 15 maybe being easier.

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It's all about the bunny butt

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papercup posted...

It's all about the bunny butt

More of less, but Balthier was pretty cool. Han solo with sexy bunny chewy, the dream combo.

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Easily the best non MMO final fantasy. By far.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Easily the best non MMO final fantasy. By far.

lol

12 was one of the better ones gameplay-wise, but holy shit the plot's pacing was possibly the worst in the series (that i've played, i havent played 1-3)

i legit don't remember what happens for 80% of the game because it's utterly unimportant

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agesboy posted...

12 was one of the better ones gameplay-wise, but holy shit the plot's pacing was possibly the worst in the series (that i've played, i havent played 1-3)

i legit don't remember what happens for 80% of the game because it's utterly unimportant

The way i felt aboyt the story was it was more about the politics and gods than it was about the characters, they where secondary when it came to the plot.

As far as game play i feel its the best turn based/atb whatever theyve done as it taught me I didnt dislike turn based nearly as much as i disliked random battle encounters. I guess a mix between it and chromo trigger would have been better. Where when you do run up on a enemy you get locked into combat and it turns into a typical atb battle just without a screen transition

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Like I said, ignore the plot, its all about the bunny butt

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The plot was more fun and grounded.

I didn't have to worry about some metrosexual trying to blow up the planet.

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Adam_Savage posted...

...what

Swap the nethicite with 'Death Star plans' and imagine Fran is Chewie and it should all come together.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

The way i felt aboyt the story was it was more about the politics and gods than it was about the characters, they where secondary when it came to the plot.

i don't actually remember very much politics or gods happening between raithwall and pharos though

like some stuff happened in archades i guess but not very much

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Unbridled9 posted...

Swap the nethicite with 'Death Star plans' and imagine Fran is Chewie and it should all come together.

yeah it still doesn't
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