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SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 7:19:12 PM #51:	I4NRulez posted... LOL well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950211018] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted... </cite> <quote>LOL</quote> well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 02/02/21 7:41:01 PM #52:	SaccharineSmile posted... well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear --- Talking about video games? it's ok to just disagree with each other on the internet. No point getting hostile or snide about it <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:950211765] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie</quote>characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/02/21 7:44:45 PM #53:	Some how it got changed to be boys can sexual assult girls and get a pass . And this in the laast 5 or so year. When for all off my life it meants boys play around in the dirt and get up to playful trouble. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:950211902] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Some how it got changed to be boys can sexual assult girls and get a pass . And this in the laast 5 or so year. When for all off my life it meants boys play around in the dirt and get up to playful trouble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 7:46:11 PM #54:	Wetterdew posted... characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear but its fictional though what are young men going to learn from Superheroes? that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life? --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950211956] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear</quote> but its fictional though what are young men going to learn from Superheroes? that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 02/02/21 7:46:46 PM #55:	Wetterdew posted... characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear So if you asked a young boy who their male role model is today....you're telling me one or more of these characters would spring up? I doubt it. Maybe a twitch streamer or something. But idk which ones young boys follow that aren't gamers. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:950211975] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>characters from superhero movies don't not count just because you don't want them to. In addition to them. Kristoff from Frozen Tarzan Flynn Rider from Tangled Li Shang from Mulan David Kawena from Lilo and Stitch Buzz Lightyear Ron swanson Mario + Luigi Juan from Moonlight Aang Hiccup from httyd Sulley from Monsters Inc Mr Incredible Shrek Harry Potter Dumbledore 4 out of 5 of the modern Doctor Whos are male Paddington bear</quote>So if you asked a young boy who their male role model is today....you're telling me one or more of these characters would spring up? I doubt it. Maybe a twitch streamer or something. But idk which ones young boys follow that aren't gamers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 02/02/21 8:13:58 PM #56:	SaccharineSmile posted... that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life? The whole thing with comic books and heroes is that you see how they get tested which shows you why they are a hero, not how. Spiderman has to choose between saving a bus full of innocent civilians or his crush. Batman has to choose between saving the district attorney or saving his love interest. Superman chooses to save humanity in situations he quite clearly could avoid because he knows he's beyond the human race. The underlying motif is that these people sacrifice themselves for a greater good and still deal with human emotions in the process. Superheroes definitely have an effect on morality/psyche regardless of how childish they sound --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:950212935] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life?</quote> The whole thing with comic books and heroes is that you see how they get tested which shows you why they are a hero, not how. Spiderman has to choose between saving a bus full of innocent civilians or his crush. Batman has to choose between saving the district attorney or saving his love interest. Superman chooses to save humanity in situations he quite clearly could avoid because he knows he's beyond the human race. The underlying motif is that these people sacrifice themselves for a greater good and still deal with human emotions in the process. Superheroes definitely have an effect on morality/psyche regardless of how childish they sound </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 02/02/21 8:19:27 PM #57:	SaccharineSmile posted... but its fictional though what are young men going to learn from Superheroes? that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life? Pretty sure that's a joke post, if listing Shrek or Paddington Bear didn't give it away <cite>coh posted [p:950213147] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>but its fictional though what are young men going to learn from Superheroes? that having make believe powers will give you what is needed to get through life?</quote>Pretty sure that's a joke post, if listing Shrek or Paddington Bear didn't give it away </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 02/02/21 8:21:17 PM #58:	Shrek isn't real? Could have sworn I've seen him at the supermarket. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:950213200] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Shrek isn't real? Could have sworn I've seen him at the supermarket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WallStreetWolf 02/02/21 8:24:17 PM #59:	Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us --- "I'm 38 and nearly lost it last night when I thought I'd lost my Minecraft world." - DSP I simp for Harpie <cite>WallStreetWolf posted [p:950213316] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 8:26:45 PM #60:	Someone like Indiana Jones - living in a real world, smart, teacher, adventurous - is a great role model --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950213415] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Someone like Indiana Jones - living in a real world, smart, teacher, adventurous - is a great role model </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 02/02/21 8:27:00 PM #61:	Prismsblade posted... So if you asked a young boy who their male role model is today....you're telling me one or more of these characters would spring up? I doubt it. Maybe a twitch streamer or something. But idk which ones young boys follow that aren't gamers. Regardless of whether a boy would consciously call out these characters, they are all likable characters who kids are gonna want to emulate, and they shape boys' ideas of maleness and how to be a good man. If you ask a young boy today who their role model is, he'll probably say it's Spiderman or Thor or somebody. Some of them would cite streamers. But they're all watching TV and movies and are going to be taking lessons on how these characters treat others and what values they hold. --- Talking about video games? it's ok to just disagree with each other on the internet. No point getting hostile or snide about it <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:950213429] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>So if you asked a young boy who their male role model is today....you're telling me one or more of these characters would spring up? I doubt it. Maybe a twitch streamer or something. But idk which ones young boys follow that aren't gamers.</quote>Regardless of whether a boy would consciously call out these characters, they are all likable characters who kids are gonna want to emulate, and they shape boys' ideas of maleness and how to be a good man. If you ask a young boy today who their role model is, he'll probably say it's Spiderman or Thor or somebody. Some of them would cite streamers. But they're all watching TV and movies and are going to be taking lessons on how these characters treat others and what values they hold. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 02/02/21 8:27:34 PM #62:	Indiana Jones wouldn't tolerate bullying --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:950213451] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Indiana Jones wouldn't tolerate bullying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 02/02/21 8:29:47 PM #63:	It was often used to justify some form of abuse. Bullying, skirt flipping, that kinda thing. Nowadays it's kind of outdated, at least in the civilized states. Kids aren't really like that anymore. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:950213540] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>It was often used to justify some form of abuse. Bullying, skirt flipping, that kinda thing. Nowadays it's kind of outdated, at least in the civilized states. Kids aren't really like that anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 02/02/21 8:32:59 PM #64:	Kakapo posted... Yeah, I getcha. If you think youre gonna use the ideas one day, keep them safe until you can. They are good ideas. I got some things to revisit but overall, sucks teeth I gotcha man, thanks :) --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington <cite>Machete posted [p:950213671] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Kakapo posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I getcha. If you think youre gonna use the ideas one day, keep them safe until you can.</quote> They are good ideas. I got some things to revisit but overall, sucks teeth I gotcha man, thanks :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 02/02/21 8:36:40 PM #65:	Prismsblade posted... farther https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4syCNa_6GY --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington <cite>Machete posted [p:950213787] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>farther</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4syCNa_6GY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 02/02/21 8:37:18 PM #66:	SaccharineSmile posted... well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie My little brother idolized John Cena. Lebron James, Chris Evans, The Rock, Lionel Messi, Marcus Rashford, Robert Irwin. and those are people off the top of my head --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:950213816] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>well, who are some male role models in the media today? and please dont say anyone from a superhero movie</quote> My little brother idolized John Cena. Lebron James, Chris Evans, The Rock, Lionel Messi, Marcus Rashford, Robert Irwin. and those are people off the top of my head </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 02/02/21 8:37:31 PM #67:	SaccharineSmile posted... well its a pretty toxic mentality to project that on the original meaning of boys will be boys I'm not seeing an awful lot of denial about spider theory --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington <cite>Machete posted [p:950213823] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>well its a pretty toxic mentality to project that on the original meaning of boys will be boys</quote> I'm not seeing an awful lot of denial about spider theory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 02/02/21 8:39:05 PM #68:	SaccharineSmile posted... Someone like Indiana Jones - living in a real world, smart, teacher, adventurous - is a great role model who the fuck is arguing against Indiana Jones, bro? --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington <cite>Machete posted [p:950213885] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>Someone like Indiana Jones - living in a real world, smart, teacher, adventurous - is a great role model</quote> who the fuck is arguing against Indiana Jones, bro? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 02/02/21 8:41:55 PM #69:	WallStreetWolf posted... Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us you must be new here --- https://imgur.com/hLHUnOI You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:950213983] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>WallStreetWolf posted... </cite> <quote>Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us</quote> you must be new here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 02/02/21 9:50:01 PM #70:	Wetterdew posted... Regardless of whether a boy would consciously call out these characters, they are all likable characters who kids are gonna want to emulate, and they shape boys' ideas of maleness and how to be a good man. If you ask a young boy today who their role model is, he'll probably say it's Spiderman or Thor or somebody. Some of them would cite streamers. But they're all watching TV and movies and are going to be taking lessons on how these characters treat others and what values they hold. You can be the goodest of man trying to emulate thor or spiderman but they won't teach you exactly want to do, say, or act proper around women nor what kind of man they generally like in the first place. How to become popular, or self validate yourself. Most media doeasnt for some reason. I mean,, why do you think incels are becoming more and more prominent in society? And worse yet, said society does not care, actively mocks or belittles them and have any intention of fixing the issue at all. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:950216388] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>Regardless of whether a boy would consciously call out these characters, they are all likable characters who kids are gonna want to emulate, and they shape boys' ideas of maleness and how to be a good man. If you ask a young boy today who their role model is, he'll probably say it's Spiderman or Thor or somebody. Some of them would cite streamers. But they're all watching TV and movies and are going to be taking lessons on how these characters treat others and what values they hold.</quote>You can be the goodest of man trying to emulate thor or spiderman but they won't teach you exactly want to do, say, or act proper around women nor what kind of man they generally like in the first place. How to become popular, or self validate yourself. Most media doeasnt for some reason. I mean,, why do you think incels are becoming more and more prominent in society? And worse yet, said society does not care, actively mocks or belittles them and have any intention of fixing the issue at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/02/21 9:54:58 PM #71:	Prismsblade posted... You can be the goodest of man trying to emulate thor or spiderman but they won't teach you exactly want to do, say, or act proper around women nor what kind of man they generally like in the first place. How to become popular, or self validate yourself. Most media doeasnt for some reason. I mean,, why do you think incels are becoming more and more prominent in society? And worse yet, said society does not care, actively mocks or belittles them and have any intention of fixing the issue at all. And on TV woman like Incels look at Kylo Ren. As long as they are hot. So it tells people you can be problematic as long as you don't look ugly. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:950216556] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>You can be the goodest of man trying to emulate thor or spiderman but they won't teach you exactly want to do, say, or act proper around women nor what kind of man they generally like in the first place. How to become popular, or self validate yourself. Most media doeasnt for some reason. I mean,, why do you think incels are becoming more and more prominent in society? And worse yet, said society does not care, actively mocks or belittles them and have any intention of fixing the issue at all.</quote> And on TV woman like Incels look at Kylo Ren. As long as they are hot. So it tells people you can be problematic as long as you don't look ugly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightwarrior78 02/02/21 10:19:07 PM #72:	The gendered terms make people forget the root of the saying is that kids can and will get into mischief and trouble as they grow and start to learn and push their boundaries, ironically to be a little bit soft on broken rules that could range from minor disobedience to petty theft. Listening to some old radio shows where it was used, it was usually accompied with reminders of what the adults had gotten up to in their youth, and to show the kinder hand that wasn't always shown to them. A sect of culture seeks to curb unwanted behavior and hates these kind of excuses. I can respect the logic if the extend they want to take it can be a bit ridiculous. They don't see a line between roughhousing and serial killing, a stolen kiss and rape, and just see just about any and everything as a form of bullying. --- I'm not saying that less toxic gaming journalists would lead to less toxic gamers. I'm just saying there's no proof to the contrary. <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:950217419] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>The gendered terms make people forget the root of the saying is that kids can and will get into mischief and trouble as they grow and start to learn and push their boundaries, ironically to be a little bit soft on broken rules that could range from minor disobedience to petty theft. Listening to some old radio shows where it was used, it was usually accompied with reminders of what the adults had gotten up to in their youth, and to show the kinder hand that wasn't always shown to them. A sect of culture seeks to curb unwanted behavior and hates these kind of excuses. I can respect the logic if the extend they want to take it can be a bit ridiculous. They don't see a line between roughhousing and serial killing, a stolen kiss and rape, and just see just about any and everything as a form of bullying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 02/02/21 10:21:05 PM #73:	Its a phase that some people are attaching a different meaning to. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:950217486] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Its a phase that some people are attaching a different meaning to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 02/02/21 10:30:14 PM #74:	This topic outright confused me. I'm reading about rape and assault, heroic figures, and for some reason spiders. What in the hell is going on. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:950217745] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>This topic outright confused me. I'm reading about rape and assault, heroic figures, and for some reason spiders. What in the hell is going on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 02/02/21 10:51:02 PM #75:	Idk about toxic masculinity but it's a shitty excuse to excuse shitty behavior. When a guy gropes a chick at school and their parent says "Oh well, boys will be boys" to make it sound ok..it's like no dude, that's assault. The girl wouldn't have told on him if it was ok. Now if a boy rips a nasty fart in class and everybody laughs, nothing wrong with "boys will be boys" but when you use it to justify more serous shit...it's a terrible defense. Source: Am a dude. --- #BringBackKI <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:950218519] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Idk about toxic masculinity but it's a shitty excuse to excuse shitty behavior. When a guy gropes a chick at school and their parent says "Oh well, boys will be boys" to make it sound ok..it's like no dude, that's assault. The girl wouldn't have told on him if it was ok. Now if a boy rips a nasty fart in class and everybody laughs, nothing wrong with "boys will be boys" but when you use it to justify more serous shit...it's a terrible defense. Source: Am a dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sneakysnake 02/02/21 11:15:11 PM #77:	Kolibri X posted... It's about destroying gender roles and controlling rebellious men. Many men are hard-wired to be bold, adventurous and combative and this is a threat to feminists and lesser males. It's one of great litmus tests facing men today. Either succumb to it or resist and become more masculine in spite of it. By having masculinity removed it makes it easier for them to be manipulated too. <cite>sneakysnake posted [p:950219352] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Kolibri X posted... </cite> <quote>It's about destroying gender roles and controlling rebellious men. Many men are hard-wired to be bold, adventurous and combative and this is a threat to feminists and lesser males. It's one of great litmus tests facing men today. Either succumb to it or resist and become more masculine in spite of it.</quote> By having masculinity removed it makes it easier for them to be manipulated too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 11:22:59 PM #78:	I got triggered by this whilst in a book store: https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Will-Be-Clementine-Ford-ebook/dp/B07LCR76LL Boys Will Be Boys: Power, patriarchy and the toxic bonds of mateship 'Everyone's afraid that their daughters might be hurt. No one seems to be scared that their sons might be the ones to do it ... This book ... is the culmination of many years of writing about power, abuse, privilege, male entitlement and rape culture. After all that, here's what I've learned: we should be fucking terrified.' Clementine Ford, from the introduction Fearless feminist heroine Clementine Ford is a beacon of hope and inspiration to hundreds of thousands of Australian women and girls. Her incendiary first book, Fight Like A Girl, is taking the world by storm, galvanising women to demand and fight for real equality and not merely the illusion of it. Now Boys Will Be Boys examines what needs to change for that equality to become a reality. It answers the question most asked of Clementine: 'How do I raise my son to respect women and give them equal space in the world? How do I make sure he's a supporter and not a perpetrator?' All boys start out innocent and tender, but by the time they are adolescents many of them will subscribe to a view of masculinity that is openly contemptuous of women and girls. Our world conditions boys into entitlement, privilege and power at the expense not just of girls' humanity but also of their own. Ford demolishes the age-old assumption that superiority and aggression are natural realms for boys, and demonstrates how toxic masculinity creates a disturbingly limited and potentially dangerous idea of what it is to be a man. Crucially, Boys Will Be Boys reveals how the patriarchy we live in is as harmful to boys and men as it is to women and girls, and asks what we have to do to reverse that damage. The world needs to change and this book shows the way. --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950219587] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>I got triggered by this whilst in a book store: https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Will-Be-Clementine-Ford-ebook/dp/B07LCR76LL <quote>Boys Will Be Boys: Power, patriarchy and the toxic bonds of mateship 'Everyone's afraid that their daughters might be hurt. No one seems to be scared that their sons might be the ones to do it ... This book ... is the culmination of many years of writing about power, abuse, privilege, male entitlement and rape culture. After all that, here's what I've learned: we should be fucking terrified.' Clementine Ford, from the introduction</quote> <quote>Fearless feminist heroine Clementine Ford is a beacon of hope and inspiration to hundreds of thousands of Australian women and girls. Her incendiary first book, Fight Like A Girl, is taking the world by storm, galvanising women to demand and fight for real equality and not merely the illusion of it.</quote> <quote>Now Boys Will Be Boys examines what needs to change for that equality to become a reality. It answers the question most asked of Clementine: 'How do I raise my son to respect women and give them equal space in the world? How do I make sure he's a supporter and not a perpetrator?'</quote> <quote>All boys start out innocent and tender, but by the time they are adolescents many of them will subscribe to a view of masculinity that is openly contemptuous of women and girls. Our world conditions boys into entitlement, privilege and power at the expense not just of girls' humanity but also of their own. </quote> <quote>Ford demolishes the age-old assumption that superiority and aggression are natural realms for boys, and demonstrates how toxic masculinity creates a disturbingly limited and potentially dangerous idea of what it is to be a man. Crucially, Boys Will Be Boys reveals how the patriarchy we live in is as harmful to boys and men as it is to women and girls, and asks what we have to do to reverse that damage. The world needs to change and this book shows the way.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kakapo 02/02/21 11:25:40 PM #79:	Stop it, you seething mass of spiders --- Did my singing please you? No, the words you sang were wrong 24 hour party parrot <cite>Kakapo posted [p:950219658] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Stop it, you seething mass of spiders </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 11:27:47 PM #80:	Why are people trying to change and fight the natural behavior of a boy (energetic, rough, or improper ways)? --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950219725] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Why are people trying to change and fight the natural behavior of a boy (energetic, rough, or improper ways)? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/02/21 11:29:40 PM #81:	SaccharineSmile posted... Why are people trying to change and fight the natural behavior of a boy (energetic, rough, or improper ways)? Do you feel groping females is the natural behavior of boys? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:950219772] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>Why are people trying to change and fight the natural behavior of a boy (energetic, rough, or improper ways)?</quote>Do you feel groping females is the natural behavior of boys? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 02/02/21 11:30:46 PM #82:	WallStreetWolf posted... Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us No. Not TC, a known troll. He wouldnt. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:950219811] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>WallStreetWolf posted...</cite> <quote>Now I just think TC is willfully being obtuse to troll us </quote> No. Not TC, a known troll. He wouldnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/02/21 11:32:34 PM #83:	Ruvan22 posted... Do you feel groping females is the natural behavior of boys? no but groping females shouldnt fall into boy will be boys meaning it should just fall into assault --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950219869] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you feel groping females is the natural behavior of boys?</quote> no but groping females shouldnt fall into boy will be boys meaning it should just fall into assault </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/02/21 11:52:03 PM #84:	SaccharineSmile posted... no but groping females shouldnt fall into boy will be boys meaning it should just fall into assault A) Well people such as judges have used "boys will be boys" to excuse groping/rape/bullying/etc. B) What "improper" behaviors are you referring to that you feel should be allowed? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:950220446] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>no but groping females shouldnt fall into boy will be boys meaning it should just fall into assault</quote>A) Well people such as judges have used "boys will be boys" to excuse groping/rape/bullying/etc. B) What "improper" behaviors are you referring to that you feel should be allowed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaccharineSmile 02/04/21 10:00:40 PM #85:	play fighting as a kid is improper these days as its show violence according to everyone --- Sent from my IPhone X <cite>SaccharineSmile posted [p:950291936] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>play fighting as a kid is improper these days as its show violence according to everyone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/04/21 10:18:44 PM #86:	SaccharineSmile posted... play fighting as a kid is improper these days as its show violence according to everyone A) So the only thing you believe we should accept under "Boys will be boys"? is play fighting? B) Who is this everyone? C) How do you tell the difference between play fighting and real fighting? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:950292508] in What's wro... [t:79274280]...</cite> <quote>SaccharineSmile posted... </cite> <quote>play fighting as a kid is improper these days as its show violence according to everyone</quote>A) So the only thing you believe we should accept under "Boys will be boys"? is play fighting? B) Who is this everyone? C) How do you tell the difference between play fighting and real fighting? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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