Current Events > Its bizarre that Disney did so well planning the MCU but not Star Wars

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Planning a decade long, nearly 20 movie series? No problem, able to make great movies while guiding it in a careful direction, despite some stumbles.

Star Wars? They blatantly had no planned overarching story for just a single trilogy, didn't bother checking up on production.

Its such a stark contrast :/

MCU was actually kind of an accident at first. Iron Man turned out so popular that the ending went from kind of a joke to spawning the rest of the MCU.

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It really is. And it's not like the MCU was new when they started work on TFA so that's not even an excuse.

I mean...thats been Star Wars since its inception. Its a very boring series with not much to it. Youd think in a fantasy world like that one they could do anything but it still just comes down to good guy fights bad guy in a really vanilla way. The fantasy of Marvel just offers more to work with.

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Honestly, Star Wars is at its best in the extended universe. So Disney deliberately going out of its way to retcon out the extended universe was a pretty bad decision from the onset.

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Having literally no story plan for a planned trilogy of movies in the most popular franchise on the planet might be one of the stupidest decisions in cinema history. Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired years ago.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Having literally no story plan for a planned trilogy of movies in the most popular franchise on the planet might be one of the stupidest decisions in cinema history. Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired years ago.

The fact that there was literal, open animosity between Abrams and Johnson certainly didn't help.


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Should have just got the people from Marvel to do it from the start. Jon Favreau has shown star wars can be amazing if done right. Just imagine what the Russo brothers could do if they handled the ST.

Star Wars is held back by a lot of things that MCU isn't.

One, it has a very limited cast of important characters, the actors of which are too old to play those characters anymore.

Two, the complexity of the Star Wars universe is almost entirely from the extended universe, which Disney explicitly threw out. Unlike mcu, in which every character has a rich backstory and there are plenty of marvel-consistent ways to retcon things thanks to a built-in multiverse theme throughout the comics.

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Fanboys have the dumbest issues with the new SW movies honestly.

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i'd say it's easier when you already have tons and tons of inspiration to draw from. you pick a little from this writer, little from that writer, then add a sprinkle of one more thing as well as some continuity = movie that comic book fans + casual audiences are pleased with

with SW they have to come up with everything by themselves and make it official.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

i'd say it's easier when you already have tons and tons of inspiration to draw from. you pick a little from this writer, little from that writer, then add a sprinkle of one more thing as well as some continuity = movie that comic book fans + casual audiences are pleased with

with SW they have to come up with everything by themselves and make it official.

That's the thing, Disney really shot themselves in the foot by basically invalidating all Star Wars lore except the movies, because when you actually get down to it, there isn't much lore in the movies.

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Disney is relatively hands off with the MCU, so that's probably why. They just let Kevin Feige and crew do their thing, and it helps that they have a rough overarching vision vs Star Wars where they didn't even have a plan for the sequel trilogy.

AsucaHayashi posted...

i'd say it's easier when you already have tons and tons of inspiration to draw from. you pick a little from this writer, little from that writer, then add a sprinkle of one more thing as well as some continuity = movie that comic book fans + casual audiences are pleased with

with SW they have to come up with everything by themselves and make it official.

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

Fanboys have the dumbest issues with the new SW movies honestly.

No, episode 9 is an objectively badly written movie, and that has nothing to do with anything about star wars.

Not in the slightest
MCU is based on comics that they have over 70 years of issues to look at
Star Wars had to be written from scratch
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The MCU didn't even begin to have a plan until after 2012.

I'd really like for us to get away from the idea of "planned things work better".

You know what had a plan? The DC Cinematic Universe. Remind me how that's going.

There are a lot of factors that go into any film/series success or failure. You can't point to just one thing.

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RadiantJoyrock posted...

No, episode 9 is an objectively badly written movie, and that has nothing to do with anything about star wars.

I didn't say it wasn't.

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MCU was seperate movies by seperate writers and directors that could do anything they wanted so long as they didn't mess up "Thanos and infinity stones". They all come together at the end for two big movies.

Star Wars is three big movies that are supposed to tell one arc, but end up failing because they couldn't stick with one direction. If Star Wars was 20 smaller movies with one big finish it'd be much easier. That's why some of the side stories are doing so well.

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

Fanboys have the dumbest issues with the new SW movies honestly.

Okay fanboy

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Like I have said, the new Star Wars didn't even feel like it was a Star Wars movie. It felt slapdash thrown together and had felt more akin to a Harry Potter movie.

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It comes down to one thing and one thing only. Kathleen Kennedy is a hack. Kevin Feige understood how to let his directors do their thing while making sure the overall story made sense. You dont even need to be butthurt by Kathleens decision to focus of feminism or anything like that. Those themes are fine. The issue is how bullshit the writing was and the total lack of direction.

Its of my opinion that they need to fire Kathleen immediately and grant emergency powers to Dave Filoni.

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It's mostly Abrams' fault. Dude sucks.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

God_Of_Entirety posted...

Fanboys have the dumbest issues with the new SW movies honestly.

Okay fanboy

OK famboy
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Star Wars is heading in the right direction at least. The sequel trilogy could end up being the only blemish of the Disney Star Wars era.

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