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legendary_zell
01/25/21 11:22:34 PM
#51:


TheoryzC posted...
Unless I'm missing something

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1353903044212224000

Unless the Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass a combination of the New Deal and Johnson's civil rights laws, this is just meaningless sounds from him. We are at a pivotal moment of democratic backsliding in this country. If the Dems don't change things enough to reduce the resentment and sense of brokenness in this country, the next Republican takeover we get will be a fascist one.

And they will not be able to take the necessary action without getting rid of the filibuster. One bill per year that doesn't include democracy reform etc and is restricted by bogus senate rules and traditions won't be enough and will get democracy killed.

President Cotton/Hawley/Trump Jr. is the end for all of us if they let it happen.

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Doom_Art
01/25/21 11:42:58 PM
#52:


Irony posted...
Because now Democrats can't pass anything without 60 votes like McConnell wants
Plenty of things can happen in the Senate without 60 votes.

McConnell wanted the filibuster to be enshrined in the rules of the Senate by Schumer, but received no concession in that area and was only given a pinky swear by two Democrats who are known to vote party line very consistently.

This is not a great development for him.

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:02:44 AM
#53:


legendary_zell posted...
Unless the Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass a combination of the New Deal and Johnson's civil rights laws, this is just meaningless sounds from him. We are at a pivotal moment of democratic backsliding in this country. If the Dems don't change things enough to reduce the resentment and sense of brokenness in this country, the next Republican takeover we get will be a fascist one.

And they will not be able to take the necessary action without getting rid of the filibuster. One bill per year that doesn't include democracy reform etc and is restricted by bogus senate rules and traditions won't be enough and will get democracy killed.

President Cotton/Hawley/Trump Jr. is the end for all of us if they let it happen.

I fear a republican senate and house in 2022 more than the odds of one of those three becoming president. they'd be lucky to have a fraction of the turnout that Donald has. without getting too loose I'm comfortable saying that Donald was a perfect storm and the flailing that we're seeing is the last convulsions of the regime. Where we get in trouble is if 2022 becomes 2014 and leads to the next republican congress.

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:05:29 AM
#54:


berlyman101 posted...
I fear a republican senate and house in 2022 more than the odds of one of those three becoming president. they'd be lucky to have a fraction of the turnout that Donald has. without getting too loose I'm comfortable saying that Donald was a perfect storm and the flailing that we're seeing is the last convulsions of the regime. Where we get in trouble is if 2022 becomes 2014 and leads to the next republican congress.
There's plenty of reasons to be nervous for 2022

However, I will note that the performance in Georgia and the newer trend of Democrats adding high-propensity suburban voters to their coalition is a promising development for turnout in midterms

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MegaCamerupt
01/26/21 12:07:00 AM
#55:


SergeantGander posted...
As much as everyone here hates Trump, I'll risk saying this.

This "promise" of his resonated with me back in 2016. Unfortunately, he was completely incompetent at actually fulfilling it.
He had no intention of fulfilling this promise. He spent his entire term filling up the government with his lackeys
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Gwynevere
01/26/21 12:08:29 AM
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Nothing is going to seriously change without progressives in office, from the ground up

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:10:19 AM
#57:


Gwynevere posted...
Nothing is going to seriously change without progressives in office, from the ground up
Then show up and vote in every primary and election yo

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:15:17 AM
#58:




Doom_Art posted...
There's plenty of reasons to be nervous for 2022

However, I will note that the performance in Georgia and the newer trend of Democrats adding high-propensity suburban voters to their coalition is a promising development for turnout in midterms

My concern is more that there is a lack of high profile minority leaders with pull like Stacey Abrams in other southern states. in regards to the suburban voters, good to have them again, but fool me once.

Gwynevere posted...
Nothing is going to seriously change without progressives in office, from the ground up

I think that two left-of-center democrats in the senate for a deep south state is a serious accomplishment. yes there were mitigating factors but it has been less than two weeks so I'm gonna drink to that.

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Gwynevere
01/26/21 12:17:02 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Then show up and vote in every primary and election yo
Okay? Keep stanning for neolibs I guess, if it makes you happy

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:17:15 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Did Trump get anything passed in the senate in 4 years if 60 votes was required to get things through?

didn't the republican majority in the senate render the filibuster moot?

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:18:03 AM
#62:


Gwynevere posted...
Okay? Keep stanning for neolibs I guess, if it makes you happy

strategically moving the spectrum to the left via left-of-center democrats is a bitter but viable strategy that I'm willing to consider at this point.

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:18:29 AM
#64:


Gwynevere posted...
Okay? Keep stanning for neolibs I guess, if it makes you happy
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I'm on your side dude. You said more progressives need to be in all levels of government. I agreed and said you gotta show up and vote them in.

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Gwynevere
01/26/21 12:19:43 AM
#65:


Doom_Art posted...
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I'm on your side dude. You said more progressives need to be in all levels of government. I agreed and said you gotta show up and vote them in.
Sounded more like a sarcastic jab at progressives not showing up to vote. If that wasn't the case, that's my bad, but I see that a lot

Shit I saw "they" not then my bad

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:19:54 AM
#66:


metallica846 posted...
Thats my confusion here I guess. We have a majority now. Our democrats do vote D when called upon but have only said they dont support ending the filibuster.

I think that's what this topic is, basically some panicking over the prospect of a couple of democratic party senators giving on the filibuster. and a lack of leadership in the party keeping them in line the way Mitch does for the republican senators.

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:21:39 AM
#67:


berlyman101 posted...
didn't the republican majority in the senate render the filibuster moot?
The filibuster was eliminated for judicial appointments back in 2013. The Republicans extended that to include SCOTUS appointments in 2017.

There is also reconciliation, which can only be done once per year and is not subject to the filibuster so it can easily pass with a 50+1 majority.


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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:22:45 AM
#68:


Gwynevere posted...
Sounded more like a sarcastic jab at progressives not showing up to vote. If that wasn't the case, that's my bad, but I see that a lot

Shit I saw "they" not then my bad
all good yo

a lot of angry neolibs out there, so i get why ya thought that

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Gwynevere
01/26/21 12:25:55 AM
#69:


berlyman101 posted...
strategically moving the spectrum to the left via left-of-center democrats is a bitter but viable strategy that I'm willing to consider at this point.
This I agree with though, if it comes down to it

I'll play the long game to move the Overton window leftward

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Smashingpmkns
01/26/21 12:29:01 AM
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Hornswoggled
01/26/21 12:30:13 AM
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LOL you guys went into doomer mode in record time.
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CommonStar
01/26/21 12:30:22 AM
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If Biden and the Democrats don't get shit done, then they can kiss all the increased turnout they received bye bye. It's simple as that.
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Bio1590
01/26/21 12:31:07 AM
#73:


metallica846 posted...
Did Trump get anything passed in the senate in 4 years if 60 votes was required to get things through?

Because not every law is going to have every member of the minority party vote against it.
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dbf50
01/26/21 12:32:10 AM
#74:


So if we get rid of the filibuster and the Republicans take back Congress in two years, what's stopping them from running rough shot and setting us back several years progress-wise?

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Bio1590
01/26/21 12:33:48 AM
#75:


Doom_Art posted...

The filibuster was eliminated for judicial appointments back in 2013. The Republicans extended that to include SCOTUS appointments in 2017.

There is also reconciliation, which can only be done once per year and is not subject to the filibuster so it can easily pass with a 50+1 majority.


Judicial AND executive appointments were in 2013
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fuming
01/26/21 12:34:28 AM
#76:


Hornswoggled posted...
LOL you guys went into doomer mode in record time.

the better question is how anyone ever left doomer mode from the moment biden secured the nomination
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Bio1590
01/26/21 12:34:53 AM
#77:


dbf50 posted...
So if we get rid of the filibuster and the Republicans take back Congress in two years, what's stopping them from running rough shot and setting us back several years progress-wise?

There's nothing stopping them from eliminating the filibuster themselves even if the Dems don't do it now lol.
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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:34:56 AM
#78:


dbf50 posted...
So if we get rid of the filibuster and the Republicans take back Congress in two years, what's stopping them from running rough shot and setting us back several years progress-wise?
I mean they wouldn't have the presidency

Though to answer your question as to what would stop them the next time they control all three?

Nothing would stop them. But I say fuck it. If the GOP wants to use their senate/house majorities repealing popular laws and programs then go ahead and let em try.

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Smashingpmkns
01/26/21 12:35:33 AM
#79:


Hornswoggled posted...
LOL you guys went into doomer mode in record time.

It's a fair stance. Filibuster won't go away.
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dbf50
01/26/21 12:36:35 AM
#80:


Bio1590 posted...
There's nothing stopping them from eliminating the filibuster themselves even if the Dems don't do it now lol.

How many Senators would they need to eliminate the filibuster themselves? Would Romney and Collins go for it?

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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:37:53 AM
#81:


CommonStar posted...
If Biden and the Democrats don't get shit done, then they can kiss all the increased turnout they received bye bye. It's simple as that.

agree, but I'm optimistic. let's see if the left-of-Obama start to Biden's regime isn't fluff. I'm as surprised as anyone so far but this may be a reaction to the leftward groundswell.

dbf50 posted...
So if we get rid of the filibuster and the Republicans take back Congress in two years, what's stopping them from running rough shot and setting us back several years progress-wise?

nothing lmao, that's why we're uneasy

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:38:25 AM
#82:


Smashingpmkns posted...
It's a fair stance. Filibuster won't go away.
Filibuster can be done away with literally any time it becomes inconvenient.

Nothing was codified, agreed to or promised in writing by anyone.

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muchdran
01/26/21 12:40:40 AM
#83:


Biden is a corrupt , racist piece of shit
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berlyman101
01/26/21 12:41:14 AM
#84:


muchdran posted...
Biden is a corrupt , racist piece of shit

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Doom_Art
01/26/21 12:41:14 AM
#85:


muchdran posted...
Biden is a corrupt , racist piece of shit
dude you literally support former president donald trump

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Smashingpmkns
01/26/21 12:47:46 AM
#86:


Doom_Art posted...
Filibuster can be done away with literally any time it becomes inconvenient.

Nothing was codified, agreed to or promised in writing by anyone.

It's already become inconvenient a long ass time ago
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Unknown760
01/26/21 12:51:03 AM
#87:


muchdran posted...
Biden is a corrupt , racist piece of shit
You supported Trump.

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TheHoldSteady
01/26/21 1:01:55 AM
#88:


Abolishing the filibuster and giving DC / Puerto Rico statehood would've been the way to go but OFC Manchin and Sinema had to ruin it.

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F1areaGaman
01/26/21 2:03:20 AM
#89:


fuming posted...
we were always screwed and this was always going to happen. we saw it under obama, they will always find blue dogs to stop anything good from happening. and then they will lose the mid terms because nothing good happened. and then republicans will stop anything good from happening. the system is set up specifically to prevent action from the left.

you mean both sides

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Ving_Rhames
01/26/21 2:03:49 AM
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He was never gonna get anything done to begin with lol

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shironinja
01/26/21 2:05:11 AM
#91:


Refill the swamp !!



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Dark_SilverX
01/26/21 2:08:46 AM
#92:


fuming posted...
the better question is how anyone ever left doomer mode from the moment biden secured the nomination
this

Biden ain't saving shit

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UnfairRepresent
01/26/21 2:10:46 AM
#93:


Orchestrion posted...
Democrats are clearly a right wing party. The evidence is overwhelming.
this

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SSMajinVegeta2
01/26/21 2:11:48 AM
#94:


Whats not getting done now?

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Humble_Novice
01/26/21 2:12:19 AM
#95:


Ving_Rhames posted...
He was never gonna get anything done to begin with lol
Why are you lying? Biden is already making positive changes via executive orders.
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fuming
01/26/21 2:35:15 AM
#96:


Humble_Novice posted...
Why are you lying? Biden is already making positive changes via executive orders.

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emagdnE
01/26/21 3:18:42 AM
#97:


TheHoldSteady posted...
Just when I thought the Democrats had finally gotten a backbone...

What the hell made you think that?

The spineless idiots only barely won the presidency and the Senate because of Coronavirus. And even then they got their asses kicked at the House and lost seats. Despite the ramped up voter turnout and anti-Republican sentiment.

And Biden is the most spineless Republican appeaser of them all.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Why would you ever think that lmao. These clowns LOST seats in the 2020 election against one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history.

No, one of the most popular. He did in fact, have the second highest popular vote count in US election history.

The presence of haters does not mean a lack of fans. He has 74 million of them.

More damning that all those people voted for Donald Trump, while the people voting for Biden didn't vote FOR Biden, they voted AGAINST Trump. So what happens to the Democrats when they can no longer use Trump to rally voters against? Nobody actually likes them.

The mistake people make is asking how the Republican Party is going to recover from Trump. There's nothing to recover from. Trump made them stronger. So strong that even despite the high turnout to oppose him, there was no blue wave. Plus you'd think after how they recovered from Bush people would get with the program. Until the finishing blow is dealt, the Republicans will just keep getting back up. And the Democrats will never land that finishing blow because as we've established..... they're fucking pussies.

No no no. How is the Democratic Party going to recover from Biden?

I sure as fuck am not going to continue voting for them if they're going to follow Biden's path of submission to the Republicans. I always hated the spineless fucks, I only voted for them to fight the Republicans. And they're not even doing that. They're going with Biden's treasonous message of "unity" with the enemies of America. And you're naive if you think I'm the only leftist who feels this way.

No, in fact it feels like they fought Bernie harder than Trump and Coronavirus did all the work. God help them if they do the same to AOC.

tremain07 posted...
The worst thing about this is that Mitch wins no matter what

Until he's up for re-election.

The Trump cult sure aren't going to forgive his betrayal of Dear Leader.

RamboCell29 posted...
Cocaine Mitch is way too good at BS politics.

He isn't very good at all. He couldn't do shit during the Obama years. Just obstruct.

He's a leech that needs a president to siphon power from.

The problem is..... the Democrats suck at this even more. Also Biden is a president he can leech off of. Apparently they're longtime friends.....

fuming posted...


hey, you don't know that for sure. it could just be trump again.

The universe hates us enough for that to happen, yes.
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Bio1590
01/26/21 3:24:21 AM
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jumi
01/26/21 3:32:50 AM
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Until he's up for re-election.

The Trump cult sure aren't going to forgive his betrayal of Dear Leader.

He just got reelected. That's six long years, and voters have short memories.

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Solar_Crimson
01/26/21 9:22:16 AM
#100:


muchdran posted...
Biden is a corrupt , racist piece of shit
Says the Trump-supporter.

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