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A5modeu5
01/22/21 8:04:18 PM
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I am playing the legacy collection and have save assist on.
I would have thrown this shit out the window if i had to retry the whole stage everytime I died at a boss.

I am at this dumbass Harpuia boss for over half an hour now. I am dead with 4 hits and I have to watch this dumb conversation everytime I die.
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A5modeu5
01/22/21 8:06:46 PM
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Also. I absolutely loath games where you take damage if you touch an enemy.

God damn this is frustrating.
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LordFarquad1312
01/22/21 8:09:38 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
Also. I absolutely loath games where you take damage if you touch an enemy.

God damn this is frustrating.
Sound like Mega Man isn't the series for you

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Strider102
01/22/21 8:10:06 PM
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Are you using the Ice Chip and charging your attacks?

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Dark_SilverX
01/22/21 8:10:55 PM
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make sure you actually slice the enemy with your z saber

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EndOfDiscOne
01/22/21 8:12:37 PM
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Harpuia is definitely the first real test. It just takes practice. You need to avoid his hits and theres little room for error, though there is always a pattern. Use the Z-saber.

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A5modeu5
01/22/21 8:16:09 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Are you using the Ice Chip and charging your attacks?


I dont have an ice chip. Just fire and lightning.

I got him down to 1 hit once.

Dodge and hit with Lvl2 charge attack is what I am doing.
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EricDraven59
01/22/21 8:18:18 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
Also. I absolutely loath games where you take damage if you touch an enemy.

God damn this is frustrating.
You just named every NES and SNES platformer
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A5modeu5
01/22/21 8:22:09 PM
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I just did it.
God damnit.
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Lairen
01/22/21 8:38:37 PM
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I dont like mmz but the legacy collection is a cool collection so i have it anyways.

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A5modeu5
01/22/21 8:43:51 PM
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Are the other games harder?
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LordFarquad1312
01/22/21 8:45:09 PM
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Imo, the first one is the hardest

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
01/22/21 8:45:40 PM
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I beat that shit in middle school
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EricDraven59
01/22/21 8:47:04 PM
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Megaman 10 has an achievement/trophy called Mr. perfect, beat the game without taking damage. Just let that sink in for a few minutes. Pretty sure this is a trophy about 5% of people on earth have
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LordFarquad1312
01/22/21 8:48:05 PM
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EricDraven59 posted...
Megaman 10 has an achievement/trophy called Mr. perfect, beat the game without taking damage. Just let that sink in for a few minutes. Pretty sure this is a trophy about 5% of people on earth have
So you're saying there's a chance?

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EricDraven59
01/22/21 8:53:39 PM
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Only 1.86% of people ever earned the Mr perfect trophy. So that's saying a lot. Sure its possible but not probable haha
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bnui_ransder
01/22/21 8:55:55 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
I find 2 the hardest. 3 and 4 are easier.
Same here. Difficulty for me is 2 > 1 > 3 >4

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Lairen
01/22/21 9:00:47 PM
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So 332 million people got Mr.Perfect? Wow.

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Chicken
01/22/21 9:31:02 PM
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How do you not have the ice chip? If youre using save assist you shouldnt have failed any missions. Its been too long since Ive played it so maybe Ive forgotten something but I remember having the ice chip for that fight.

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A5modeu5
01/22/21 9:32:39 PM
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Chicken posted...
How do you not have the ice chip? If youre using save assist you shouldnt have failed any missions. Its been too long since Ive played it so maybe Ive forgotten something but I remember having the ice chip for that fight.


There is apparently no fixed order you can do the missions in.
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EndOfDiscOne
01/22/21 9:34:13 PM
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I dont remember being able to use a chip on Harpuia

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ssjevot
01/22/21 9:35:23 PM
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I think if you try to play 1 for the don't use any cyber elves S rank it's the hardest. You can't get subtanks without using them. I think you can use some right at the last boss and not lose S-rank but it's been a while. I think all of the games are pretty easy if you don't care about the ranks and just want to beat them. Just use cyber elves.

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A5modeu5
01/23/21 7:37:53 PM
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Ive never used a cyber elf before.
Are they 1 time use consumables?
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ZeroX91
01/23/21 7:40:46 PM
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2 and 3 are great...1 is rough....4 is just Megaman X with no X.

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ZeroX91
01/23/21 7:43:16 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
Ive never used a cyber elf before.
Are they 1 time use consumables?
In 1 and 2. In 3 they lower rank but are mostly equipment outside of healing and the 3 that raise your rank, in 4 they are a better version of what thry had in 3

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ZMythos
01/23/21 7:46:21 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
Ive never used a cyber elf before.
Are they 1 time use consumables?
They're 1 time use. Some give permanent upgrades like HP Ups, Sub Tanks, and movement speed. Others give temporary buffs or healing.

Using them lowers your rank, but that isn't important if you're just playing casually and not trying to go for 100% (Which is very challenging even compared to the base game). Don't feel bad for using them if you're just interested in the game and story.

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ZMythos
01/23/21 7:48:57 PM
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Also if you haven't already, I recommend mapping dash to a shoulder button and your sub-weapon to the other shoulder button. This game was designed for the GBA so the controls were optimized for fewer buttons.

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A5modeu5
01/23/21 7:49:47 PM
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ZMythos posted...
A5modeu5 posted...
Ive never used a cyber elf before.
Are they 1 time use consumables?
They're 1 time use. Some give permanent upgrades like HP Ups, Sub Tanks, and movement speed. Others give temporary buffs or healing.

Using them lowers your rank, but that isn't important if you're just playing casually and not trying to go for 100% (Which is very challenging even compared to the base game). Don't feel bad for using them if you're just interested in the game and story.


The permanent upgrade is forever or only in the current mission?
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ZMythos
01/23/21 7:51:41 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
The permanent upgrade is forever or only in the current mission?
Forever. It takes some time grinding for Energy Crystals. If you have the flame chip, you should be able to use the transerver to go back to the factory and farm them. Just don't die while you're there or else you'll lost them.


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ZMythos
01/23/21 7:53:43 PM
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Also if you haven't yet leveled up your saber to max, you can grind that out against those pillars that regenerate by the disposal center. just keep hacking away.


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A5modeu5
01/23/21 7:56:28 PM
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ZMythos posted...
A5modeu5 posted...
The permanent upgrade is forever or only in the current mission?
Forever. It takes some time grinding for Energy Crystals. If you have the flame chip, you should be able to use the transerver to go back to the factory and farm them. Just don't die while you're there or else you'll lost them.



Oh. Well more health would have been helpful at the bosses.

Ill do that then.
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ZeroX91
01/23/21 7:59:19 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Also if you haven't yet leveled up your saber to max, you can grind that out against those pillars that regenerate by the disposal center. just keep hacking away.
Im glad 3 got rid of weapon levels...wish it kept forms instead of the chips though

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ssjevot
01/23/21 8:00:54 PM
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A5modeu5 posted...
Ive never used a cyber elf before.
Are they 1 time use consumables?

I think this is why you are struggling. If you want the S rank, then yeah you don't have a choice. But you can always do a second playthrough if it's too frustrating now, especially if you haven't been going for S ranks. The permanent upgrade ones are really strong and the boost ones are great for hard areas. I went straight for S ranks in the other ones, but they are much easier because of the subtanks not being elves and in the case of 3 and 4 being able to equip some without penalty.

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A5modeu5
01/24/21 1:42:02 PM
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Are the elves that you can grow up the ones that give permanent bonuses?
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ssjevot
01/24/21 5:05:10 PM
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https://megaman.retropixel.net/mmz/1/cyberelf.php

That has everything you need to know about them.

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A5modeu5
01/24/21 5:36:30 PM
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ssjevot posted...
https://megaman.retropixel.net/mmz/1/cyberelf.php

That has everything you need to know about them.


Thx. Ive already lvld up the shelter elf and from then on it was more enjoyable for me.

In the mission where you fight all the bosses again I beat most of them in 1 or 2 tries.

I do need a break before I start the 2nd game though.
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Frizzurd
01/24/21 7:03:01 PM
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I have done buster only boss runs on every classic Mega Man game, yet I couldn't be arsed to get past the first boss of this.

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