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Darmik 01/20/21 7:11:26 PM #1:	Often they even end up more likeable than the main character by the end of it Piccolo/Vegeta James Sawyer Johnny Lawrence Jeanne Magus Venom The Arbiter What are some more and which ones did you like? It can also work for villains in general as long as there's a bigger villain for them to turn against lol --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949730212] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Often they even end up more likeable than the main character by the end of it Piccolo/Vegeta James Sawyer Johnny Lawrence Jeanne Magus Venom The Arbiter What are some more and which ones did you like? It can also work for villains in general as long as there's a bigger villain for them to turn against lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 01/20/21 7:11:55 PM #2:	Darmik posted... Piccolo/Vegeta James Sawyer Johnny Lawrence Jeanne Magus Venom The Arbiter Ugh --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:949730228] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Piccolo/Vegeta James Sawyer Johnny Lawrence Jeanne Magus Venom The Arbiter</quote> Ugh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NobleWill8 01/20/21 7:15:57 PM #3:	I think I'm in the minority here, but I don't actually like the concept of Vegeta, he was a big part of the Saiyan push in Z. --- "When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and create super lemons." <cite>NobleWill8 posted [p:949730371] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>I think I'm in the minority here, but I don't actually like the concept of Vegeta, he was a big part of the Saiyan push in Z. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/20/21 7:16:55 PM #4:	Oh I don't give a shit about DB. I just listed him because he's a popular character. I'm not overly fond of Venom either but I can't deny these characters are popular. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949730404] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Oh I don't give a shit about DB. I just listed him because he's a popular character. I'm not overly fond of Venom either but I can't deny these characters are popular. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 01/20/21 7:17:31 PM #5:	Zuko not found --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:949730430] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Zuko not found </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/20/21 7:18:31 PM #6:	i am actually struggling to think of a time where i thought this trope was well done berlyman101 posted... Zuko not found oh wait nvm here it is <cite>Reis posted [p:949730474] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>i am actually struggling to think of a time where i thought this trope was well done <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite>Zuko not found</quote>oh wait nvm here it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 01/20/21 7:19:18 PM #7:	St Paul <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:949730506] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>St Paul </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/20/21 7:19:28 PM #8:	Needs more heroes being unredeemable --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:949730518] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Needs more heroes being unredeemable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/20/21 7:25:53 PM #9:	Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:949730745] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NobleWill8 01/20/21 7:26:16 PM #10:	Zuko is amazingly done though. He has all the makings of being overrated, yet he's actually perfectly rated lol. There's a reason his character arc gets so much hype. --- "When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and create super lemons." <cite>NobleWill8 posted [p:949730760] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Zuko is amazingly done though. He has all the makings of being overrated, yet he's actually perfectly rated lol. There's a reason his character arc gets so much hype. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/20/21 7:26:45 PM #11:	berlyman101 posted... Zuko not found Literally the best one ever done --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:949730773] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>Zuko not found</quote>Literally the best one ever done </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 01/20/21 7:27:07 PM #12:	When did vegeta ever redeem himself? <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:949730784] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>When did vegeta ever redeem himself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 01/20/21 7:28:11 PM #13:	Zuko is not a rival. He is outright the antagonist. A lot of the listed characters in op are not rivals either. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:949730823] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Zuko is not a rival. He is outright the antagonist. A lot of the listed characters in op are not rivals either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
indica 01/20/21 7:28:26 PM #14:	Venom redeemed itself? --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>indica posted [p:949730830] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Venom redeemed itself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 01/20/21 7:30:27 PM #15:	Agreed 100%. I'm a sucker for bad-guy-turned-good arcs. --- ForestLogic alt. <cite>LostForest posted [p:949730892] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Agreed 100%. I'm a sucker for bad-guy-turned-good arcs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/20/21 7:30:56 PM #16:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... When did vegeta ever redeem himself? When he ~~sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu~~ --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:949730907] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>When did vegeta ever redeem himself?</quote>When he sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/20/21 7:34:19 PM #17:	indica posted... Venom redeemed itself? Yeah. If anything he's been an anti-hero more than an antagonist. He's basically just a villain for Peter Parker. Even in his movie they used him as a good guy. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949731015] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>indica posted... </cite> <quote>Venom redeemed itself?</quote> Yeah. If anything he's been an anti-hero more than an antagonist. He's basically just a villain for Peter Parker. Even in his movie they used him as a good guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 01/20/21 7:37:23 PM #18:	Gatomon Beelzemon --- FAM FOREVER. <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:949731113] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Gatomon Beelzemon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/20/21 7:37:49 PM #19:	Roddy Piper's face-runs were never any good. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949731124] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Roddy Piper's face-runs were never any good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightdragoon88 01/20/21 7:48:22 PM #20:	Biggest One: Green Ranger --- I seek Knowledge. The most valuable resource of all. <cite>lightdragoon88 posted [p:949731473] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Biggest One: Green Ranger </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightdragoon88 01/20/21 7:49:00 PM #21:	Blue_Inigo posted... When he ~~sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu~~ That he caused. --- I seek Knowledge. The most valuable resource of all. <cite>lightdragoon88 posted [p:949731490] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>When he sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu</quote> That he caused. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 01/20/21 7:49:46 PM #22:	Questionmarktarius posted... Roddy Piper's face-runs were never any good. I disagree. He worked some good programs with Rick Rude, Bret Hart, and Hollywood Hogan while he was a babyface. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:949731516] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Roddy Piper's face-runs were never any good.</quote> I disagree. He worked some good programs with Rick Rude, Bret Hart, and Hollywood Hogan while he was a babyface. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/20/21 7:52:51 PM #23:	I think Magus sucks in a lot of ways..... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949731638] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>I think Magus sucks in a lot of ways..... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reis 01/20/21 7:56:18 PM #25:	Blue_Inigo posted... When he ~~sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu~~ ~~genie man boo~~ <cite>Reis posted [p:949731764] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>When he sacrificed his life in attempt to kill Majin Buu</quote>genie man boo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 01/20/21 7:56:22 PM #26:	Chazz Princeton --- https://imgur.com/QfpP05s https://imgur.com/vdnZ1o6 https://imgur.com/zTgf822 <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:949731766] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Chazz Princeton </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 01/20/21 7:57:33 PM #27:	JustMyOpinion posted... No one asked you, kid. Im letting the world know his personality and motivations kind of suck or at least dont redeem all the shit hes done. And bringing him ~~along for the Cyrus sidequest is awkwardly funny.~~ --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:949731811] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>No one asked you, kid.</quote> Im letting the world know his personality and motivations kind of suck or at least dont redeem all the shit hes done. And bringing him along for the Cyrus sidequest is awkwardly funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/20/21 7:58:39 PM #28:	lightdragoon88 posted... That he caused. Yes? And? --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:949731847] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>lightdragoon88 posted... </cite> <quote>That he caused.</quote>Yes? And? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 01/20/21 8:19:00 PM #30:	JustMyOpinion posted... No one asked you, kid. Hes right tho. Magus is trash rofl --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:949732554] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>No one asked you, kid.</quote> Hes right tho. Magus is trash rofl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/20/21 8:19:41 PM #31:	remember when magus joins the party and proceeds to be largely irrelevant both plotwise and battlewise <cite>Reis posted [p:949732578] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>remember when magus joins the party and proceeds to be largely irrelevant both plotwise and battlewise </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/20/21 8:20:41 PM #32:	Magus battle theme redeems all. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949732621] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Magus battle theme redeems all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 01/20/21 10:09:15 PM #33:	In Jackie Chan's autobiography, he recalls how he was frequently bullied by the head student of his theater troupe Yuen Lung, but things mellowed into more of a rivalry after Chan became the lead star. As Chinese opera diminished in stature, the two started pulling for each other in finding film jobs. ~~"Yuen Lo" grew up to be Jackie Chan, and Yuen Lung grew up to be Sammo Hung.~~ <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:949736041] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>In Jackie Chan's autobiography, he recalls how he was frequently bullied by the head student of his theater troupe Yuen Lung, but things mellowed into more of a rivalry after Chan became the lead star. As Chinese opera diminished in stature, the two started pulling for each other in finding film jobs. "Yuen Lo" grew up to be Jackie Chan, and Yuen Lung grew up to be Sammo Hung. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/20/21 10:12:54 PM #34:	It depends. If they have a moment of clarity and then sacrifice themselves to help out the hero at the 11th hour thats usually badass. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:949736135] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>It depends. If they have a moment of clarity and then sacrifice themselves to help out the hero at the 11th hour thats usually badass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/20/21 10:15:44 PM #35:	Ikki > everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fhzJ_-1cKs --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949736234] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Ikki > everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fhzJ_-1cKs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 01/20/21 10:17:15 PM #36:	zuko is one of the greatest characters of all time tbh tbqh --- https://imgur.com/286sD4e http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:949736280] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>zuko is one of the greatest characters of all time tbh tbqh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 01/20/21 10:17:59 PM #37:	It's one of my favorite tropes. Along with childhood friend turns out to be traitor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:949736301] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>It's one of my favorite tropes. Along with childhood friend turns out to be traitor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 01/20/21 10:25:19 PM #38:	Theon from Got --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:949736529] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Theon from Got </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spanky1 01/20/21 10:30:01 PM #39:	Regina in Once Upon A Time. --- https://imgur.com/DCjoiZ0 https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/spanky1-811230163 <cite>spanky1 posted [p:949736669] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Regina in Once Upon A Time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 01/20/21 10:42:11 PM #40:	This is a trope that I don't like personally. Seems like far too often it ignores all the evil shit the villain did before they 'turned good' just because the fanbase thought the character was cool. <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:949737063] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>This is a trope that I don't like personally. Seems like far too often it ignores all the evil shit the villain did before they 'turned good' just because the fanbase thought the character was cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJOLNRVII 01/20/21 11:13:24 PM #41:	Hate it, but mostly because the characters don't ever actually redeem themselves. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/WBp3VHL.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/aGc8opg.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/tQBwJ35.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:949737933] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Hate it, but mostly because the characters don't ever actually redeem themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabin017 01/20/21 11:49:42 PM #42:	Kuwabara! --- https://imgur.com/yewTplO <cite>sabin017 posted [p:949738910] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Kuwabara! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/20/21 11:51:20 PM #43:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Theon from Got That's a pretty good one since he does an incredibly unforgiveable act and then spends a significantly long time paying the cost for that. Generally that doesn't really happen. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949738956] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite> <quote>Theon from Got</quote> That's a pretty good one since he does an incredibly unforgiveable act and then spends a significantly long time paying the cost for that. Generally that doesn't really happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/20/21 11:53:41 PM #44:	pfh1001 posted... This is a trope that I don't like personally. Seems like far too often it ignores all the evil shit the villain did before they 'turned good' just because the fanbase thought the character was cool. This. Making someone do some heinous shit and then, going, "oh, well, look, they're actually misunderstood." Although in cases like Reiner, I can kind of understand. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! Communism is free drink refills, nothing else. <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949739008] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>pfh1001 posted... </cite> <quote>This is a trope that I don't like personally. Seems like far too often it ignores all the evil shit the villain did before they 'turned good' just because the fanbase thought the character was cool.</quote>This. Making someone do some heinous shit and then, going, "oh, well, look, they're actually misunderstood." Although in cases like Reiner, I can kind of understand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 01/20/21 11:55:22 PM #45:	Dinobot from Beast Wars ~~Frieza~~ Gray Fox Cyborg Ninja --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:949739048] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Dinobot from Beast Wars Frieza Gray Fox Cyborg Ninja </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 01/20/21 11:55:50 PM #46:	Darmik posted... That's a pretty good one since he does an incredibly unforgiveable act and then spends a significantly long time paying the cost for that. Generally that doesn't really happen. I didn't watch the whole series, but even then it got to the point where I'm like "ok, yeah, karmic debt repaid" and it kept fucking going. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/M8h2ATe https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:949739067] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>That's a pretty good one since he does an incredibly unforgiveable act and then spends a significantly long time paying the cost for that. Generally that doesn't really happen.</quote>I didn't watch the whole series, but even then it got to the point where I'm like "ok, yeah, karmic debt repaid" and it kept fucking going. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 01/20/21 11:55:53 PM #47:	Knuckles da Echidna --- Rather a Zoom Thanksgiving than an ICU Christmas. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:949739069] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Knuckles da Echidna </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 01/21/21 12:01:29 AM #48:	Spike from Buffy/Angel the relationship between Arthur & John in RDR2, kinda --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:949739183] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Spike from Buffy/Angel the relationship between Arthur & John in RDR2, kinda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/21/21 12:05:11 AM #49:	Dark_SilverX posted... Knuckles da Echidna It's a shame that they don't know what else to do with the character. Like c'mon Knuckles how many times can he possibly distrust Sonic. He's literally done nothing against him. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949739276] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>Dark_SilverX posted... </cite> <quote>Knuckles da Echidna</quote> It's a shame that they don't know what else to do with the character. Like c'mon Knuckles how many times can he possibly distrust Sonic. He's literally done nothing against him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 01/21/21 12:06:54 AM #50:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... When did vegeta ever redeem himself? Final Flash --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:949739324] in Rival char... [t:79250609]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>When did vegeta ever redeem himself?</quote>Final Flash </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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