Current Events > Trumps power to pardon people has been suspended due to impeachment

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CADE FOSTER 01/13/21 5:57:28 PM #1:	Lol his followers and family members and himself are fucked <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:949467868] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Lol his followers and family members and himself are fucked </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 01/13/21 5:58:07 PM #2:	Do you have a source for this? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:949467888] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Do you have a source for this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 01/13/21 5:58:18 PM #3:	CableZL posted... Do you have a source for this? --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:949467893] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have a source for this?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/13/21 5:58:23 PM #4:	Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949467899] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 01/13/21 5:59:27 PM #5:	Tyranthraxus posted... Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:949467942] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.</quote> Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 01/13/21 5:59:36 PM #6:	He's been peached?!? --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:949467949] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>He's been peached?!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/13/21 5:59:45 PM #7:	Guess even if the GOP again acquits him, the impeachment would do some good. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:949467957] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Guess even if the GOP again acquits him, the impeachment would do some good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 01/13/21 6:00:07 PM #8:	Clutch posted... Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense? It could also mean that a presidential pardon can't undo an impeachment of another official. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:949467968] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense?</quote>It could also mean that a presidential pardon can't undo an impeachment of another official. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/13/21 6:00:09 PM #9:	Tyranthraxus posted... Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. I'm not entirely certain that is how that line gets interpreted. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949467971] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.</quote> I'm not entirely certain that is how that line gets interpreted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BadKarma_JT 01/13/21 6:00:14 PM #10:	RIP should've pardoned his family earlier. --- FC: 0361-6999-4252 <cite>BadKarma_JT posted [p:949467973] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>RIP should've pardoned his family earlier. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yillin 01/13/21 6:00:42 PM #11:	Tyranthraxus posted... Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. Too ambiguous. --- There's a calm before the storm and the western front is quiet. I've got Rembrandt as my right hand and Solo as my pilot. <cite>yillin posted [p:949467986] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Constitution: The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.</quote> Too ambiguous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/13/21 6:01:26 PM #12:	Clutch posted... Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense? tl;dr we don't know. Multiple legal professionals believe it can be interpreted either way and it has never been tested in court. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949468010] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Doesnt that just mean he cant pardon himself for the impeachable offense?</quote> tl;dr we don't know. Multiple legal professionals believe it can be interpreted either way and it has never been tested in court. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 01/13/21 6:09:51 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... tl;dr we don't know. Multiple legal professionals believe it can be interpreted either way and it has never been tested in court. Hes already been impeached once and had no problem issuing pardons. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:949468328] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>tl;dr we don't know. Multiple legal professionals believe it can be interpreted either way and it has never been tested in court.</quote> Hes already been impeached once and had no problem issuing pardons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/13/21 6:15:04 PM #14:	Clutch posted... Hes already been impeached once and had no problem issuing pardons. Nope. He was impeached between December 18 2019 and February 5 2020 and did not issue pardons during that time. (Last/first around impeachment was November 15 2019 and Feb 18 2020) --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949468507] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Hes already been impeached once and had no problem issuing pardons.</quote>Nope. He was impeached between December 18 2019 and February 5 2020 and did not issue pardons during that time. (Last/first around impeachment was November 15 2019 and Feb 18 2020) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Propane4Sale 01/13/21 6:16:36 PM #15:	Uhh wasn't this going to a vote next week? --- Strickland Propane & Propane Accessories "Taste the Meat, not the Heat!" <cite>Propane4Sale posted [p:949468558] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Uhh wasn't this going to a vote next week? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 01/13/21 6:18:03 PM #16:	Fucking awesome! <cite>CommonStar posted [p:949468616] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Fucking awesome! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArkThompson 01/13/21 6:18:18 PM #17:	I think it would make more sense to interpret it as saying that the president can pardon anyone, except those who have been impeached. The argument for this would be that it would be unreasonable for the president to be able to overturn both the house and the senate and an analogy would be the presidential veto power being able to be trumped (no pun intended) by the house and senate. --- http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Ark-12191 <cite>ArkThompson posted [p:949468623] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>I think it would make more sense to interpret it as saying that the president can pardon anyone, except those who have been impeached. The argument for this would be that it would be unreasonable for the president to be able to overturn both the house and the senate and an analogy would be the presidential veto power being able to be trumped (no pun intended) by the house and senate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/13/21 6:21:36 PM #18:	ArkThompson posted... I think it would make more sense to interpret it as saying that the president can pardon anyone, except those who have been impeached. The argument for this would be that it would be unreasonable for the president to be able to overturn both the house and the senate and an analogy would be the presidential veto power being able to be trumped (no pun intended) by the house and senate. There's an argument to be made that if the president can pardon people while being impeached himself then impeachment is a useless tool for removing the president since he can order people to destroy the evidence against him and then pardon them. Or more succinctly should a potential criminal be allowed to determine what other criminals go free? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949468754] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>ArkThompson posted... </cite> <quote>I think it would make more sense to interpret it as saying that the president can pardon anyone, except those who have been impeached. The argument for this would be that it would be unreasonable for the president to be able to overturn both the house and the senate and an analogy would be the presidential veto power being able to be trumped (no pun intended) by the house and senate.</quote> There's an argument to be made that if the president can pardon people while being impeached himself then impeachment is a useless tool for removing the president since he can order people to destroy the evidence against him and then pardon them. Or more succinctly should a potential criminal be allowed to determine what other criminals go free? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 01/13/21 6:21:48 PM #19:	I don't think that's what it means --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:949468763] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's what it means </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/13/21 6:23:31 PM #20:	Yeah.... no, that's not what that line reads. It's saying that he can't pardon impeached individuals, not that his pardon ability goes away. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:949468832] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Yeah.... no, that's not what that line reads. It's saying that he can't pardon impeached individuals, not that his pardon ability goes away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/13/21 6:27:16 PM #21:	here's how this will go down. trump will ignore this, and write a bunch of pardons. they will be contested right up to the supreme court. the supreme court will rule in favor of trump, declaring that impeachment truly is a worthless mechanism and the executive branch has divine right to declare themselves above the law. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:949468977] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>here's how this will go down. trump will ignore this, and write a bunch of pardons.they will be contested right up to the supreme court.the supreme court will rule in favor of trump, declaring that impeachment truly is a worthless mechanism and the executive branch has divine right to declare themselves above the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/13/21 6:27:20 PM #22:	K181 posted... Yeah.... no, that's not what that line reads. It's saying that he can't pardon impeached individuals, not that his pardon ability goes away. It's untested in court. There are legal camps that believe it's all powers of pardons. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949468983] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah.... no, that's not what that line reads. It's saying that he can't pardon impeached individuals, not that his pardon ability goes away.</quote> It's untested in court. There are legal camps that believe it's all powers of pardons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/13/21 6:29:11 PM #23:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's untested in court. There are legal camps that believe it's all powers of pardons. They are pushing uphill in that case. And even if that were the case, stating it as a matter of fact on TV is ridiculously stupid and irresponsible. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:949469048] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>It's untested in court. There are legal camps that believe it's all powers of pardons.</quote> They are pushing uphill in that case. And even if that were the case, stating it as a matter of fact on TV is ridiculously stupid and irresponsible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/13/21 6:47:03 PM #24:	Simple workaround: Pence invokes the 25th, and pardons everyone anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949469691] in Trumps pow... [t:79237179]...</cite> <quote>Simple workaround: Pence invokes the 25th, and pardons everyone anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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