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Damn_Underscore
01/07/21 10:39:29 PM
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?????


Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakusho, Death Note, Naruto, One Piece, etc vs. Superman, Batman, XMen, the Avengers, Wonder Woman, etc

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SSJKirby
01/07/21 10:42:49 PM
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one punch man solos

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Socrawheeze
01/07/21 10:44:30 PM
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"vs." is vague

like in a fight? because both mediums have multiple fully omnipotent beings
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Damn_Underscore
01/07/21 10:44:52 PM
#4:


Socrawheeze posted...
"vs." is vague

like in a fight? because both mediums have multiple fully omnipotent beings

which is better

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Socrawheeze
01/07/21 10:45:21 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
which is better
comic easy
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ShineboxPhil
01/07/21 10:46:12 PM
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Comic Book Heroes have super broken characters like The Spectre. They win

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Blue_Target
01/07/21 10:48:57 PM
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rideshort
01/07/21 10:49:29 PM
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You got Superman. It's GG. Then you have the Marvel Cosmic beings and the DC Gods. Not even a contest.

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Ratchetrockon
01/07/21 10:49:43 PM
#9:


ShineboxPhil posted...
Comic Book Heroes have super broken characters like The Spectre. They win
Both have outerversal beings.


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DepreceV2
01/07/21 10:52:07 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
which is better

Tough if you are talking about which I like more. I guess Shounen in recent times because DC gasket me down so many times in the film area. Im also not super hardcore in either so my opinion is pretty casual

EDIT: If you are talking about in a fight, comics should win that with how absurd some of these characters are.

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ShineboxPhil
01/07/21 10:53:49 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
Both have outerversal beings.
I dunno about any shonen anime characters that can match someone that stalemated COIE Anti-Monitor.

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Ratchetrockon
01/07/21 10:54:59 PM
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ShineboxPhil posted...
I dunno about any shonen anime characters that can match someone that stalemated COIE Anti-Monitor.

They havent been adapted on tv yet. Youd have to look at light novels and some manga.


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SolidShadow3
01/07/21 10:55:15 PM
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I prefer Comic heroes. less of the "Chosen One" shit.

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MKScorpion
01/07/21 10:55:35 PM
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I prefer manga over western comics, by quite a lot.
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ssj3vegeta_
01/07/21 10:57:32 PM
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Goku alone could rekt everyone in da comic world, now add saitama and dey destroy lol
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Ratchetrockon
01/07/21 11:00:26 PM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
Goku alone could rekt everyone in da comic world, now add saitama and dey destroy lol

his canon form is universal at best
his non-canon form like Xeno Goku are multiversal.

There are still comic book beings that can destroy him.

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rideshort
01/07/21 11:02:11 PM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
Goku alone could rekt everyone in da comic world, now add saitama and dey destroy lol

Here we go.

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HagenEx
01/07/21 11:25:37 PM
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If we take out the whole plot armor thing since it would apply both ways and cancel each other, there are beings in comic books that have powers beyond your typical shounen protagonist.

Sure, you can go and find someone with theoretical infinite power like Xeno-sama from DBS or something, but there are more comic books heroes that can rival the best of the shounen characters, while the same can't be said for shounen characters against someone like The Spectre, Superman, Chaos King, Galactus, etc.

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GS4Life
01/07/21 11:30:55 PM
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Too many OP comic characters like Supes, Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam/Captain Marvel, Wonder Women (almost everyone I listed here is a Universe Buster)

That's not counting the cosmic entities which are literal reality warping Gods


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Aki_Sora
01/07/21 11:33:00 PM
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Manga because it have ending

While comic are never ending, always retcon and REBOOT
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Rika_Furude
01/07/21 11:35:01 PM
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isnt gurren lagann shonen? simon solos and not even superman in his most powerful incarnation is capable of laying a finger on simon

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Ratchetrockon
01/07/21 11:36:28 PM
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HagenEx posted...
Sure, you can go and find someone with theoretical infinite power like Xeno-sama from DBS or something, but there are more comic books heroes that can rival the best of the shounen characters, while the same can't be said for shounen characters against someone like The Spectre, Superman, Chaos King, Galactus, etc.

if you count webnovels and light novels as part of the animeverse you'd be surprised by how many OP characters authors have made up that rival the beings that you have listed. many of these are not that popular and will never be adapted to anime or translated to English.

the popular shounen characters adapted to anime though are for sure weaker than comic book beings on average. I agree to that

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ShineboxPhil
01/07/21 11:36:29 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
isnt gurren lagann shonen? simon solos and not even superman in his most powerful incarnation is capable of laying a finger on simon

https://characterrealms.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thought_Robot

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TerraSeeker
01/08/21 1:21:35 AM
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I've liked both, but I've learned Western comics like Marvel are going to disappoint at the end the day. I tried keeping up with X-men comics from the Messiah Complex to Uncanny X-men 500. I realized that they really could have they're characters take meaningful action. Scott had been doing an amazing job leading the X-men and doing cool things, but they ended up making him hated by all. The mutant revolution they were hyping up ended up just being a peaceful protest.

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Kisai
01/08/21 1:26:35 AM
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TC clearly didn't mean anything about a fight.

Everyone assumes it is anyway.

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Rika_Furude
01/08/21 1:31:05 AM
#26:


Kisai posted...
TC clearly didn't mean anything about a fight.

Everyone assumes it is anyway.
because if it was based on story or likability of the characters or well thought out character development. anime wins most of the time. even for just shonen

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tainted_emerald
01/08/21 2:21:41 AM
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Unless you bar cosmic level and omnipotent beings, the fight ends in a tie between the lines of The One Above All, The Presence, Kami-sama Tenchi, The Lord of Darkness, etc.

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AlisLandale
01/08/21 2:38:36 AM
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Shonen wins in terms of consistency. Even shitty shonen tends to be far less insufferable than shitty cape comics.

But peak comic super heroes >>>>>>> peak shonen

Of course thats mostly just a matter of how the industries operate imo.

Most of the best western superhero stories would probably be considered seinen, for one. And even then, the comic industry has the benefit of licensing out its heroes to different authors constantly, creating a collaboratively built mythology.

if DC was a Japanese manga publisher, thered be no Alan Moores Swamp Thing, or Mark Waids Flash, Dennis O Neils Batman, etc. So no Anatomy Lesson, no Ras Al Ghul, etc. Those additions and refinements only came because of how most Western comics publishing works

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