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Darmik
01/07/21 10:09:52 PM
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It seems unlikely in the sense that by renewing them they're basically asking people to watch the earlier seasons on a rival service. But it would be a shame if they just dropped these characters.

I guess they could reboot.

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SolidShadow3
01/07/21 10:11:09 PM
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I think they already hired on Bernthal and Cox, idk about the others tho.

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DavidZ2844
01/07/21 10:16:33 PM
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If Disney decides to renew the shows, would they be able to stream the previous seasons on Disney + or does Netflix actually own those previous seasons forever?
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SSJKirby
01/07/21 10:17:08 PM
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jessica jones please!

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Darmik
01/07/21 10:17:54 PM
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DavidZ2844 posted...
If Disney decides to renew the shows, would they be able to stream the previous seasons on Disney + or does Netflix actually own those previous seasons forever?

I think the latter. Disney will just get the rights to use characters for movies and television back.

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CADE FOSTER
01/07/21 10:19:43 PM
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Punisher season 3 pls
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specialkid8
01/07/21 10:25:07 PM
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Although they were technically part of the MCU there was some behind the scenes dick measuring contest between Marvel TV and Marvel Studios which is why they never seemed to touch. Now that Marvel TV has been reabsorbed and, with the renewed interest in Marvel shows being a big part of the MCU, it's more than likely they'll just reboot all the characters. Also, it's always easier to start from scratch than to try and work established material into a new story.

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Darmik
01/07/21 10:28:36 PM
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I was thinking about some of the shows. They could probably get away with soft reboots for Daredevil, Jessica Jones and The Punisher pretty fine. Keep the same actors and characters with a new story that doesn't reference the old stuff much at all.

It's a bit more complicated for Luke Cage and Iron Fist though.

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Murphiroth
01/07/21 10:28:39 PM
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Darmik posted...
I think the latter. Disney will just get the rights to use characters for movies and television back.

They never lost those rights to Netflix, they just had a two year period after cancellation where they agreed not to use the characters or actors.

Daredevil's two year mark just recently passed.
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MagnusX
01/07/21 10:29:08 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Although they were technically part of the MCU
Never once acknowledged and Feige did not hide his disdain for them. The shows mention the event of Avengers, though not explicitly with the same language. It has always essentially been one of the infinite universes, ever so slightly difference from MCU or 616 or whatever.

Charlie Cox will likely be brought on, but could be anything ranging from a lawyer in a courtroom, to Parker's lawyer, to a glimpse through the multiverse in WandaVision, Multiverse of Madness, Loki, or whatever.

Netflix will own those shows unless they decide to sell them.
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specialkid8
01/07/21 10:33:32 PM
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Darmik posted...
I was thinking about some of the shows. They could probably get away with soft reboots for Daredevil, Jessica Jones and The Punisher pretty fine. Keep the same actors and characters with a new story that doesn't reference the old stuff much at all.

It's a bit more complicated for Luke Cage and Iron Fist though.
It's pretty much hard reboot or nothing. Using the same actors but saying that the other stuff doesn't count is confusing to mass audiences. Disney is too much of a well oiled machine to worry about any of that stuff.

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Tenlaar
01/07/21 10:35:10 PM
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MagnusX posted...
Never once acknowledged and Feige did not hide his disdain for them. The shows mention the event of Avengers, though not explicitly with the same language.
What do you mean by that? There is an article shown in Daredevil that specifically says "Battle of NY" with a picture of one of the leviathans, and a picture of The Hulk from his fight in Harlem.
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DrizztLink
01/07/21 10:36:43 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
What do you mean by that? There is an article shown in Daredevil that specifically says "Battle of NY" with a picture of one of the leviathans, and a picture of The Hulk from his fight in Harlem.
I think it's more that they're downstream, sort of.

They'll bring up movie stuff in oblique ways but the movies have never and would never acknowledge them.

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Darmik
01/07/21 10:37:17 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
It's pretty much hard reboot or nothing. Using the same actors but saying that the other stuff doesn't count is confusing to mass audiences. Disney is too much of a well oiled machine to worry about any of that stuff.

Nah I'm saying they just don't need to reference it. It technically counts but it doesn't matter.

Basically how the Netflix shows were treated to begin with by the MCU lol

DrizztLink posted...
I think it's more that they're downstream, sort of.

They'll bring up movie stuff in oblique ways but the movies have never and would never acknowledge them.

Basically. The Battle of NY was the hook for the Netflix shows being canon. But then nothing was ever really referenced again. It was pretty obvious they had no intention of making a show during the snap or anything.

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Heavy_D_Forever
01/07/21 10:40:03 PM
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That was really the only R rated marvel content outside of Deadpool so I really hope they keep it going. The Punisher series was fucking great.

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specialkid8
01/07/21 10:40:40 PM
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Darmik posted...
Nah I'm saying they just don't need to reference it. It technically counts but it doesn't matter.

Basically how the Netflix shows were treated to begin with by the MCU lol
That's back to square one with them remaining canon. If Disney has new plans for Daredevil et al but they conflict with what has been shown before, even with stuff like tone, it all goes to pot. Also, if that stuff kind of counts but not really we just get more discussions about what is actually canon, like what we've already had for these shows for years. It's gonna be a completely blank slate.

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MagnusX
01/07/21 10:44:26 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
What do you mean by that? There is an article shown in Daredevil that specifically says "Battle of NY" with a picture of one of the leviathans, and a picture of The Hulk from his fight in Harlem.
Is that the first episode? That is the only time it's called that, every other time and in every other show they call it "the incident", likely because Feige did not want the exact same language used.

Again, many similarities does not make it MCU and no one has ever officially said so.
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Darmik
01/07/21 10:45:05 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
That's back to square one with them remaining canon. If Disney has new plans for Daredevil et al but they conflict with what has been shown before, even with stuff like tone, it all goes to pot. Also, if that stuff kind of counts but not really we just get more discussions about what is actually canon, like what we've already had for these shows for years. It's gonna be a completely blank slate.

I don't think it needs to conflict with anything really. Jessica Jones is a loner character so it wouldn't be out of character for her to have a new supporting cast. Daredevil only really needs Murdoch, Foggy (maybe Karen) and Kingpin. Their relationship can be easily summarized. There's not that much that's overall important to the canon of the MCU regardless.

Luke Cage and Iron Fist are tricky though since those shows left thing that aren't really a default sort of place.

But yeah you're probably right and they'll reboot. It's either that or just bring on characters for the odd cameo in other Disney+ shows.

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Tenlaar
01/07/21 10:50:35 PM
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MagnusX posted...
Is that the first episode? That is the only time it's called that, every other time and in every other show they call it "the incident", likely because Feige did not want the exact same language used.

Again, many similarities does not make it MCU and no one has ever officially said so.
Third episode, on Ben's wall.

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Darmik
01/07/21 10:53:35 PM
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I think something clearly happened after that first season of Daredevil. First season was a consequence of The Avengers. The show never does anything like that ever again.

Not only that Spider-Man Homecoming then has its own 'what happens to the little people after the Battle of NY' plot

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SquirtleSkwad
01/07/21 10:55:36 PM
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Charlie Cox is already signed on. I hope they don't use D'Onofrio, though. He was good for Netflix, but I don't see him translating well to the MCU.

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DrizztLink
01/07/21 10:58:02 PM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
Charlie Cox is already signed on. I hope they don't use D'Onofrio, though. He was good for Netflix, but I don't see him translating well to the MCU.
https://i.imgur.com/fvGDu0w.gif

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Darmik
01/07/21 11:00:38 PM
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I can only find rumors about Charlie Cox in th MCU. Seems like most are about the next Spider-Man but that might be a guess because of the end of Far From Home.

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SquirtleSkwad
01/07/21 11:03:16 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
https://i.imgur.com/fvGDu0w.gif
He's just not big enough to be Kingpin, imo. He's 6'4" and still manages to feel 5'10". Also, he speaks while tightening the corners of his mouth a lot and his voice is either a whisper or yelling.

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DrizztLink
01/07/21 11:04:17 PM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
He's just not big enough to be Kingpin, imo. He's 6'4" and still manages to feel 5'10". Also, he speaks while tightening the corners of his mouth a lot and his voice is either a whisper or yelling.


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SquirtleSkwad
01/07/21 11:35:36 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Put em up!

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specialkid8
01/08/21 12:17:00 AM
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Darmik posted...
I can only find rumors about Charlie Cox in th MCU. Seems like most are about the next Spider-Man but that might be a guess because of the end of Far From Home.
This. There was an explosion of rumors a while back, most of which were people completely pulling stuff out of their ass. Even all the way back to Jamie Foxx and Andrew Garfield being "confirmed" which set the Spider-Verse rumors going. Never happened.

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TerraSeeker
01/08/21 1:11:39 AM
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Most likely they would do a soft reboot.

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Darmik
01/08/21 1:16:07 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
This. There was an explosion of rumors a while back, most of which were people completely pulling stuff out of their ass. Even all the way back to Jamie Foxx and Andrew Garfield being "confirmed" which set the Spider-Verse rumors going. Never happened.

I think the Spider-Verse rumors have a bit more going for them. Those seem to be reported by actual outlets and who would kick off these rumors by starting with Jamie Foxx? Nothing like that for Charlie Cox though.

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