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Scorsese2002
01/04/21 12:36:23 PM
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Do you agree?


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Socrawheeze
01/04/21 12:37:17 PM
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The customer can eat shit and fuck off.
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pojr
01/04/21 12:37:38 PM
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"the customer is always right" is false

however I do believe in "the customer always wins"
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VipaGTS
01/04/21 12:38:50 PM
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What that means is sell what your customer wants and provide what they are looking for...it does not mean what these "let me speak to your manager!" types think it means.

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HighOnSolar
01/04/21 12:39:03 PM
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It doesnt matter if the customer is wrong or right. If you work in a customer-facing job, you take all fault, hold your tongue and lay no blame.

pojr posted...
"the customer always wins"

yup

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hockeybub89
01/04/21 12:39:17 PM
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The customer is almost never right. Clearly their parents were failures.

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Medussa
01/04/21 12:40:11 PM
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literally marketing bullshit by people who almost never interact with the public anyway.

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FrankJaegr
01/04/21 12:42:09 PM
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I think the customer is always right personally, conflict resolution skills bring you much farther than letting someone make you feel some type of way
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Socrawheeze
01/04/21 12:42:40 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
It doesnt matter if the customer is wrong or right. If you work in a customer-facing job, you take all fault, hold your tongue and lay no blame.
That's why you gotta get to be manager. Then the customer can suck it
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SauI_Goodman
01/04/21 12:43:00 PM
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Nope. And i used to call them out all the time. Thankfully i dont work with people anymore.

You cant tall to me like that im a customer

Bullshit bitch. Go try that scam artist shit somewhere else cause it aint happening here.

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/04/21 12:44:00 PM
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What it actually means is "you have to simp for employees and your boss at the same time".

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
01/04/21 12:44:55 PM
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The customer can suck my balls.
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CableZL
01/04/21 12:45:02 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
It doesnt matter if the customer is wrong or right. If you work in a customer-facing job, you take all fault, hold your tongue and lay no blame.
Fortunately, this isn't how it works in IT support.

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SauI_Goodman
01/04/21 12:45:12 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
It doesnt matter if the customer is wrong or right. If you work in a customer-facing job, you take all fault, hold your tongue and lay no blame.

yup


No you dont. Fuck that.

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rexcrk
01/04/21 12:46:56 PM
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The world would be a better place if we could get every single company and corporation to stop letting customers win when theyre genuinely wrong.

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VipaGTS
01/04/21 12:47:15 PM
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My last retail job i had a customer try to return a pair of shoes. They had clearly been warn, soles were all dirty. I said no. He said "why not, your policy says you take anything back"...I informed him that wasn't our policy. He proceeded to try and explain our policy (incorrectly) to me...I finally got fed up and said "Look, i can't put these back on the floor, no one will buy them in this condition" to which he said "why not? just wipe them clean they'll be fine"..

...No, the customer is not always right and employees shouldn't be forced to put up with people like that. Stores have a policy, the employee is hired to enforce them. you can't then turn around and get upset at the employee for enforcing it in certain circumstances.

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Jiek_Fafn
01/04/21 12:48:05 PM
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I've only had one job where this was actually true. All of the clients were architects that were huge nerds and terrified of speaking to people. Every single one I spoke to was smart and nice. It was like a dream situation for CS.

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Were_Wyrm
01/04/21 12:48:41 PM
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Especially when they're wrong

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HighOnSolar
01/04/21 12:50:54 PM
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CableZL posted...
Fortunately, this isn't how it works in IT support.

maybe at the level youre at. Good luck telling a customer to fuck off at entry level.

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SauI_Goodman
01/04/21 12:51:57 PM
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Most customers are decent. But i loved treating the jackasses like jackasses.

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nothanks1
01/04/21 12:52:07 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...


maybe at the level youre at. Good luck telling a customer to fuck off at entry level.

The trick is to skip that by lying about your experience
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hockeybub89
01/04/21 12:56:43 PM
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Stores just shouldn't even have policies if they're going to debase themselves and insult their employees for every dumbass with $10. Fuck it, no rules

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CableZL
01/04/21 1:02:07 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
maybe at the level youre at. Good luck telling a customer to f*** off at entry level.

Nah, I had to do that when I was doing tech support, too.

ISP Support:

Lots of customers call in with problems not related to their internet service or ISP-provided email.
  • A lady called in because she couldn't log into her Yahoo email. Despite all of her ranting and raving, there was nothing I could do about that and referred her to Yahoo's support.
  • Lots of customers called in because their computers are slow. Nothing I could do about it, referred them to their manufacturer.
  • A business customer called in because they didn't know their static IP had changed months prior to the call. After 30 minutes of them complaining about the old static IP not working, they finally agreed to just try the current one and it worked the way they wanted. This meant someone on their end had already set up their stuff with their new static IP a long time before the call and they just weren't aware.
  • Lots of customers blame their ISPs when they get viruses. Nothing you can do about it, not the ISP's fault. Doesn't matter how much they rant and rave.
  • A lady called in because she couldn't get on the internet. Turns out she uninstalled her ethernet drivers. Nothing I could do about that, had to refer her to her computer's manufacturer for further support.
  • A guy called in because he couldn't connect to his NASCAR PC game. His internet was working. Nothing I could do about it.
  • A guy called in because he couldn't send email. He swore up and down it was a problem on the ISP's end. We weren't getting a bunch of calls from people not being able to send email. I set up Outlook on my computer in a couple minutes and I could send email just fine. This suggests the problem is on the user's end. He said he was an MCSE and was using that as if he was right and I was wrong. I explained repeatedly that if I can send email using the ISP's servers, then the ISP's servers are working. After 45 minutes of arguing, he finally let me remotely connect to his computer. It turns out that he went into the modem and set the firewall to "high" instead of "low," which blocks port TCP25. He initially demand I explain how that got changed, but he ended up admitting to changing it.


I have countless stories.

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HighOnSolar
01/04/21 1:05:50 PM
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Those are all stories about how people called in for issues that werent related to whatever service you provide. Its cool you have countless stories bro, but I worked in a Comcast call center for a year at entry level and have personal experience, too. If the issue is concerning your company, you cant just say Sorry I cant help you and hang up or tell them off.

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CableZL
01/04/21 1:09:13 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
Those are all stories about how people called in for issues that werent related to whatever service you provide. Its cool you have countless stories bro, but I worked in a Comcast call center for a year at entry level and have personal experience, too. If the issue is concerning your company, you cant just say Sorry I cant help you and hang up or tell them off.

I literally gave a couple examples of issues that were related to services the ISP provided. 1) The one about the business customer calling about their static IP (they were wrong) and 2) The guy calling about not being able to send email (he was wrong).

Telling a customer that they're wrong (or not always right) doesn't mean you're refusing to help them, simply hanging up, or telling them off.

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nothanks1
01/04/21 1:09:28 PM
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Depends
When I covered level 1 for a few days a year I hung up on one c level
he started screaming at me that I better fix his password and I explained that the call is recorded and I'll be hanging up unless he speaks to me civilly.
so I hung up
Got called into the office and got told I did the right thing and I was only being notified because they felt they had to keep me updated because he made an official complaint but because he was abusive and the call proved it, he was told to fuck off by another c level
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MrDrMan
01/04/21 1:09:55 PM
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Fuck no. Customers are often wrong and/or blatantly lying to get free shit.

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DepreceV2
01/04/21 1:10:28 PM
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Medussa posted...
literally marketing bullshit by people who almost never interact with the public anyway.


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HighOnSolar
01/04/21 1:11:49 PM
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CableZL posted...
I literally gave a couple examples of issues that were related to services the ISP provided. 1) The one about the business customer calling about their static IP (they were wrong) and 2) The guy calling about not being able to send email (he was wrong).

Telling a customer they're wrong (or not always right) doesn't mean you're refusing to help them, simply hanging up, or telling them off.

I dont think the topic is literally about customers being factually wrong but maybe Im wrong

dont know why youre so adamant that employees dont have to take customers shit often, but whatever you say.

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FabIe
01/04/21 1:12:33 PM
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The customer is rarely right.

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CableZL
01/04/21 1:13:17 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
I dont think the topic is literally about customers being factually wrong but maybe Im wrong

dont know why youre so adamant that employees dont have to take customers s*** often, but whatever you say.


You literally said this:

HighOnSolar posted...
It doesnt matter if the customer is wrong or right. If you work in a customer-facing job, you take all fault, hold your tongue and lay no blame.

I responded to that by saying that's not how it works in IT support... Because that's not how it works in IT support. You can explain to someone that they're responsible for the problem they're experiencing in a tactful way and still do your job.

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HighOnSolar
01/04/21 1:15:27 PM
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You sure are right.

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SamsungGearS2
01/04/21 1:19:47 PM
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Never

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pkmnlord
01/04/21 1:21:53 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
What that means is sell what your customer wants and provide what they are looking for...it does not mean what these "let me speak to your manager!" types think it means.
This, the original meaning pertained to quality of life improvements to the business, not "this was misplaced under a different price tag therefore I should get it for that price"-types that exist today. But nobody's going to care enough to explain that or uphold it nowadays, just get customers out with something resembling a smile (likely the shit-eating grin they have from screwing us over) and move on with the day, we can recoup.

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