Poll of the Day > HALF of Americans HATE Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and 70% REJECT Socialism!!!

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Zero_Maniac posted...

Hey, you might be right. Socializing healthcare could make life better for everyone. Should we do the same with dental care?

??? Is this a serious question?

Well, Lisa does need braces...

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I do find it funny when people back American healthcare when it's one of the most expensive of the healthcare systems on earth. Yet despite all that money it's not even the best or top 3 for that matter, sure if money is no object and you can afford to pay out of pocket for everything or get an extremely good healthcare plan it's pretty good. But the vast majority of the people can't walk into a hospital for a surgery, and write a $50k check like it's nothing.

Monopoman posted...

I do find it funny when people back American healthcare when it's one of the most expensive of the healthcare systems on earth. Yet despite all that money it's not even the best or top 3 for that matter, sure if money is no object and you can afford to pay out of pocket for everything or get an extremely good healthcare plan it's pretty good. But the vast majority of the people can't walk into a hospital for a surgery, and write a $50k check like it's nothing.

Americans believe healthcare costs as much as they're charged

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It's also rather amusing that in this country even if you do the right thing and get health insurance and pay for it for say 10-15 years. if you get any major thing like say cancer in most cases the health insurance company will drop your coverage, since they know for the next 2-3 years it will be a huge cost for them. What a great system even if you follow all the rule and try to play it fair they can just say "Nah, we aren't paying for this asshole now that he is very sick."

LinkPizza posted...

Ah. I see. You though "not a good look" meant something about appearances. That would be false. I was using it in another way. In the context I use it in, "Look" and "Appearance" are not synonymous. That's where your mistake was...

Interesting. Then how did you mean it? Typically when one says, "That's not a good look," it means whatever that person said or did has made them look dumb, petty, vindictive, or evil just to name a few. It tends to mean that most people don't or won't see you in a positive light.

Joe_Biden posted...

uh

dental care falls under healthcare, so yes.

Not always, no. I wouldn't even say usually:

https://www.nbcnews.com/better/health/reason-your-dental-work-isn-t-covered-medical-insurance-ncna813666

https://www.dentistryiq.com/front-office/insurance-coding-and-tips/article/16352593/what-makes-it-medical-a-basic-guide-to-medical-vs-dental-procedures

https://quotewizard.com/health-insurance/dental-care-coverage


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Zero_Maniac posted...

Not always, no. I wouldn't even say usually:

you're trying to argue that, because it's not covered under cheap barebones insurance, that it's not under healthcare as a whole.

that's because you've been taught that from big insurance companies who try to do everything to get more money out of you, including making dental and vision completely separate things.

they aren't. dental, and vision for that matter, fall under healthcare as a whole.

if you have an impacted tooth, you don't go to a doctor, right? because that would be silly, right? no, you'd go to a dentist. ignoring the fact that the dentist...is also a doctor, ignoring the fact that you just had surgery on your mouth to fix your tooth.

as an aside, the definition of healthcare?

Health care, health-care, or healthcare is the maintenance or improvement of health via the prevention, diagnosis, treatment, recovery, or cure of disease, illness, injury, and other physical and mental impairments in people. Health care is delivered by health professionals and allied health fields. Physicians and physician associates are a part of these health professionals. Dentistry, pharmacy, midwifery, nursing, medicine, optometry, audiology, psychology, occupational therapy, physical therapy, athletic training and other health professions are all part of health care.

oh shit

healthcare encompasses a hell of a lot of things, it's not just seeing general physicians, or surgeries., as it turns out.

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Joe_Biden posted...

you're trying to argue that, because it's not covered under cheap barebones insurance, that it's not under healthcare as a whole.

that's because you've been taught that from big insurance companies who try to do everything to get more money out of you, including making dental and vision completely separate things.

they aren't. dental, and vision for that matter, fall under healthcare as a whole.

if you have an impacted tooth, you don't go to a doctor, right? because that would be silly, right? no, you'd go to a dentist. ignoring the fact that the dentist...is also a doctor, ignoring the fact that you just had surgery on your mouth to fix your tooth.

as an aside, the definition of healthcare?

oh shit

My point is that there is a distinction made between health care and dental care (and eye care) by the system. A lot of insurance plans have health care for things like illness and disease but not for getting braces or impacted teeth fixed. I'm not saying I agree with it, or that I don't think it's stupid. That's just how it is. We may not make a distinction (as we shouldn't), but the system does.

And I'm not sure why you bothered bolding those words. Was that supposed to prove some sort of point?

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Zero_Maniac posted...

My point is that there is a distinction made between health care and dental care (and eye care) by the system.

and the system is in dire need of change, which is what AOC, among many many others, argue for.

socialized healthcare, like in multiple other countries, is actually far cheaper than the shit america has now.

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Zero_Maniac posted...

Interesting. Then how did you mean it? Typically when one says, "That's not a good look," it means whatever that person said or did has made them look dumb, petty, vindictive, or evil just to name a few. It tends to mean that most people don't or won't see you in a positive light.

Basically, I was saying that what you said didn't make you look positive. About how bad the health care system is...
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LinkPizza posted...

Basically, I was saying that what you said didn't make you look positive. About how bad the health care system is...

Right, so you were talking about appearances, just not in the literal sense. Are you being obtuse on purpose, or are you just not a native English speaker? If it's the latter, then I understand and I won't demean you or blame you.

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Zero_Maniac posted...

Not always, no. I wouldn't even say usually:

It always should. People die from lack of dental care.

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Gaawa_chan posted...

It always should. People die from lack of dental care.

I agree. But unfortunately we must still play by the system's rules, which is why I make the distinction.

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Zero_Maniac posted...

Right, so you were talking about appearances, just not in the literal sense. Are you being obtuse on purpose, or are you just not a native English speaker? If it's the latter, then I understand and I won't demean you or blame you.

I figured you were talking about appearances in the literal sense.
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The whole vision insurance thing is crazy. Some eye stuff is covered under regular medical insurance, and some requires special vision insurance. Ophthalmologists are usually covered under medical, optometrists are not. Both professions require at least 8 years of study and a doctorate degree, the only difference being that an ophthalmologist has a general medical degree (M.D. or D.O.) with additional eye-specific training while an optometrist has a specialized degree, Doctor of Optometry (O.D.).

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LinkPizza posted...

I figured you were talking about appearances in the literal sense.

I was not. But whether literal or metaphorical, concern over appearances in this context is quite petty and vain, wouldn't you agree?

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Zero_Maniac posted...

I was not. But whether literal or metaphorical, concern over appearances in this context is quite petty and vain, wouldn't you agree?

I know now. But at the time, I thought otherwise. And I dont really agree that much, tbh... It affects the way people talk to you. And people talking to you differently on a message board becomes a big deal since thats literally all we do here...
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LinkPizza posted...

I know now. But at the time, I thought otherwise. And I dont really agree that much, tbh... It affects the way people talk to you. And people talking to you differently on a message board becomes a big deal since thats literally all we do here...

Yes, but there's much more to life (my life, anyways) than talking to randoms whose real names you don't even know on a single board on a site. This is far from the only board on the site that I post in. And even if it were, I don't live on (or for) GameFAQs or any other online forum for that matter. Why should I care about a handful of people talking to me differently? That's childish at best.

So if we think Socialism is the answer in general, then we should probably talk about Venezuela, since that country is certainly a Socialist country. What went wrong there? Did something go wrong in the first place?

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Zero_Maniac posted...

Yes, but there's much more to life (my life, anyways) than talking to randoms whose real names you don't even know on a single board on a site. This is far from the only board on the site that I post in. And even if it were, I don't live on (or for) GameFAQs or any other online forum for that matter. Why should I care about a handful of people talking to me differently? That's childish at best.

So if we think Socialism is the answer in general, then we should probably talk about Venezuela, since that country is certainly a Socialist country. What went wrong there? Did something go wrong in the first place?

That's not totally true. Some of us do know each others real names. And talk on places other than this board. Some people have even met each other. And some of us talk on more than one board together, as well. I've seen many of these posters on other boards. And even if I don't spend all my time here, I do come here when I bored. So, it's betters to have a fun place to come when there's nothing else to do... Especially since I know them much better than say, a bunch of people on Reddit. Going to a Reddit post sucks because it's almost always new people unless you stick to certain subreddits. When this board is normally filled with the same people yo normally talk to. So, even if you don't care about it, others might. I mean, since you're not a regular, it shouldn't matter to you. But it might to others who come here to talk regularly...

I don't know anything about Venezuela... Care to enlighten me?
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Zero_Maniac posted...

What went wrong there? Did something go wrong in the first place?

Usually when something goes wrong with a country in the modern world, on the political level, it's due to interference from the US or Russia. So keep that in mind.

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I can't read anything without my glasses unless the text is like... an inch away from my eyes. And we're pretty sure an untreated dental issue is what ultimately led to the death of my step-father.

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I love watching AOC supporters. It's like watching a bunch of children that still believe in Santa, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, etc.

DDirtyDastard posted...

I love watching AOC supporters. It's like watching a bunch of children that still believe in Santa, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, etc.

lol I bet you think trickle down economics work.

i love watching trump supporters. it's like watching a bunch of children

actually i think my dumbass kid is smarter than them tbh and he's only 4

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Im from nyc.

(not her district)

but I can tell you that New York City seems to give way less Shits about her than the rest of the country.

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Conner4REAL posted...

Im from nyc.

(not her district)

but I can tell you that New York City seems to give way less Shits about her than the rest of the country.

I mean yeah, you guys have enough problems with that dumbass Cuomo to be wasting brainpower on someone like her who has virtually no influence outside of cluckbait articles