Current Events > Cyberpunk removed from PSN store

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codey posted...

So is this refund being processed automatically or do I have to apply for it again? I've already been shut down once lol

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/cyberpunk-2077-refunds/

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Irony posted...

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/cyberpunk-2077-refunds/

Yeah I went there it just doesn't have any instructions or details.

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DarthAragorn posted...

It's not a joke post, the framerate drops in Bloodborne were absolute garbage

As mentioned before, BB suffers from frame pacing issues and the occasional 2-3 fps drops but never drops anywhere near CP2077 lows, which can be below 20 for sustained gameplay segments. If you can find any evidence that BB's frame rate issues are anywhere close to CP2077, I'll be very interested to see it.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Issue is them wasting time and resources trying to get the game to work on 8 year old hardware instead of just fixing the bugs

Cancel the last gen versions, make the next gen and PC versions the best they can be

They announced the game at the beginning of last gen so people expected the game to run on the consoles it was announced for.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Issue is them wasting time and resources trying to get the game to work on 8 year old hardware instead of just fixing the bugs

The 8 year old hardware is what people actually have! 100 million people bought a PS4 in some form; like 3 million have been able to get a PS5 so far. They're never passing up that user base for a game that's taken this much time and money.

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gunplagirl posted...

Even fallout 76 wasn't this bad. It was technically playable. Terrible server status and there wasn't any content except killing monsters. But that much was playable without too many issues.

Fallout 76 was absolutely worse than this, idk what you're talking about

This game is functional on PC. Fallout 76 wasn't functional on anything
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Fallout 76 was also something no one asked for or bought

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Cyberjunk lol

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Cyberflunk

I played BB for a week before my ps4 even connected online and thought it was fine. I remember, cause I came back from Cali with it and my internet service was shut off before I left. That comparison makes no sense to me.

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codey posted...

Yeah I went there it just doesn't have any instructions or details.

You call their support, or do the live messenger thing on the site.

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Wasn't the PS5 version running well?

Oh. There is no PS5 version.

I wonder with all of the refund requests if sales have dipped back below 8 million lol

In Australia where you are allowed to return products that don't work the Playstation version of Cyberpunk is also being returned in droves.

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flamedearflame posted...

Wasn't the PS5 version running well?

Yeah. My cousins is fine. He's enjoying it. So is my other friend.

They still deserve this blowback.

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Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

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Cyberpunk 20.77fps.



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If my memory serves me correctly this hasn't happened since Arkham Knight on Steam.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

Three crashes is kinda bad G
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One_Day_Remains posted...

Three crashes is kinda bad G

That was 3 hours for me in New Vegas

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flamedearflame posted...

Wasn't the PS5 version running well?

Yes, but CDPR told customers if they werent satisfied with the game to ask for a refund, but didn't clear it with Sony. And PS4 is still taking precedent over PS5 due to most people not really having one.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

Not on ps5, no.

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Darmik posted...

If my memory serves me correctly this hasn't happened since Arkham Knight on Steam.

Which iirc was pulled by WB Games.

This is unprecedented.
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flamedearflame posted...

Wasn't the PS5 version running well?

Maybe so, but most people aren't playing on ps5.

This is what's best. CDPR bit off way more than they could chew with this game. I'm having a good time with it on PC, but I wouldn't _dream_ of trying to play it on a console.

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hockeybub89 posted...

That was 3 hours for me in New Vegas

Lmao why you guys bringin up these old-ass games

PatrickMahomes posted...

Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

Nah, the base consoles basically perform the same for the most part. The ps4 version just crashes more apparently. But both have the same other issues.

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Alucard188 posted...

This is what's best. CDPR bit off way more than they could chew with this game. I'm having a good time with it on PC, but I wouldn't _dream_ of trying to play it on a console.

I'm 25 hours in on ps4 slim. I've had one crash. Most of my issues are the afformentioned texture and clipping issues, and frame drops.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

If its the base Xbox One, then its even worse than the base PS4 according to ign.

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Sictis posted...

Maybe so, but most people aren't playing on ps5.

I know this isn't the only reason people don't have ps5s, but I do wonder how different this would be if everyone who wanted one got one.

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I wonder if they would have done this is CDPR didn't release that dumb ass statement saying they can get a refund without actually making it clear with retailers.
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Tbh if gamers should not have gotten this game for old hardware, then the removal+refunds is the ideal situation. Now they can rectify their mistake.

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Lol.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I know this isn't the only reason people don't have ps5s, but I do wonder how different this would be if everyone who wanted one got one.

CDPR were probably banking on that tbh.

Jabodie posted...

Tbh if gamers should not have gotten this game for old hardware, then the removal+refunds is the ideal situation. Now they can rectify their mistake.

I would agree with that

It's such a hilarious shit storm the more I think about it.

CDPR didn't send out console codes and were remarkably aggressive taking down any leaks that showed how bad it was. I made a topic showing how dire the gameplay clips were pre-release and I've never seen so many sites get hit with takedowns.

So of course it comes out immediately how much of a disaster it is on most consoles. Right when CDPR is bragging about preorders. A few days later they write a letter to 'dear gamers' saying that if they want a refund to go to Sony and Microsoft and asking to be given a chance. Turns out Sony doesn't give refunds unless they have to. Which causes another controversy.

Sony now has to make the call. If they give refunds to CP2077 then going by their policies they're admitting the game is faulty. So if that's the case why would they give refunds while still selling the game? What would stop people buying the game after publicizing refunds and then refunding it anyway. So the game has got to go.

So many ways this could have been avoided. Ironically if they had a next gen version actually ready that would have stayed up but they don't even have that.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Aside from some visual bugs and three crashes across 30 hours, ive been fine on xbox one.

is it really that bad on ps4/ps5?

Exactly the same as you on a base PS4. 30 hours, 3 crashes. There are definitely severe issues that need to be addressed, but Skyrim on PS3 was way worse (crashed nearly every session for me), barely got fixed and remains on the PS3 store, It even runs like shit on PS4.
Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

Darmik posted...

It's such a hilarious shit storm the more I think about it.

CDPR didn't send out console codes and were remarkably aggressive taking down any leaks that showed how bad it was. I made a topic showing how dire the gameplay clips were pre-release and I've never seen so many sites get hit with takedowns.

So of course it comes out immediately how much of a disaster it is on most consoles. Right when CDPR is bragging about preorders. A few days later they write a letter to 'dear gamers' saying that if they want a refund to go to Sony and Microsoft and asking to be given a chance. Turns out Sony doesn't give refunds unless they have to. Which causes another controversy.

Sony now has to make the call. If they give refunds to CP2077 then going by their policies they're admitting the game is faulty. So if that's the case why would they give refunds while still selling the game? What would stop people buying the game after publicizing refunds and then refunding it anyway. So the game has got to go.

So many ways this could have been avoided. Ironically if they had a next gen version actually ready that would have stayed up but they don't even have that.

The game still has many, many issues even on pc. Not as bad as consoles, but still bad. Angry Joe has made no less than 4 videos about the pc version being fucked so far, and is disappointed as hell because of it.

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TheSavageDragon posted...

Exactly the same as you on a base PS4. 30 hours, 3 crashes. There are definitely severe issues that need to be addressed, but Skyrim on PS3 was way worse (crashed nearly every session for me), barely got fixed and remains on the PS3 store, It even runs like shit on PS4.
Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

No, it's their incredibly shady way they handled, well, everything about it.

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TheSavageDragon posted...

Exactly the same as you on a base PS4. 30 hours, 3 crashes. There are definitely severe issues that need to be addressed, but Skyrim on PS3 was way worse (crashed nearly every session for me), barely got fixed and remains on the PS3 store, It even runs like shit on PS4.
Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

The biggest factor is expectations now have changed. We have more knowledge than ever thanks to stuff like social media and digital foundry. Overall framerates and stability this generation have improved. Combine this, CDPR's shadiness over review copies and 8 million preorders and this is what they get.

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TheSavageDragon posted...

Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

I think that's part of it, but I also think developers have been delivering higher quality polish this gen than last. One example is BL3, which basically runs about as well as BL2 did on PS360, but people have complained about performance constantly. Tons of big games didn't hit frame rate targets back in the day.

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pres_madagascar posted...

The game still has many, many issues even on pc. Not as bad as consoles, but still bad. Angry Joe has made no less than 4 videos about the pc version being fucked so far, and is disappointed as hell because of it.

Sounds worse than the new consoles then. I was sitting next to my cousin playing it for a good portion of the night. Him and my friend are both satisfied with the ps5 update.

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TheSavageDragon posted...

Exactly the same as you on a base PS4. 30 hours, 3 crashes. There are definitely severe issues that need to be addressed, but Skyrim on PS3 was way worse (crashed nearly every session for me), barely got fixed and remains on the PS3 store, It even runs like shit on PS4.
Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

My game freezes up when I even try to change the radio station. It stops everything for 10 seconds just to pull up the station list.

I don't expect the game to run as well as it would on PC or PS5, but I do expect it to run as well as any other PS4 which it absolutely doesn't.

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Darmik posted...

The biggest factor is expectations now have changed. We have more knowledge than ever thanks to stuff like social media and digital foundry. Overall framerates and stability this generation have improved. Combine this, CDPR's shadiness over review copies and 8 million preorders and this is what they get.

Yep, as someone enjoying it on PS4, I can't help but shake my head at just how goddamn shady they've been about it.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Sounds worse than the new consoles then. I was sitting next to my cousin playing it for a good portion of the night. Him and my friend are both satisfied with the ps5 update.

No, actually the pc version is the best version, but it still has a lot of bugs that can break immersion.

It's not just the bugs though. The civilian, enemy, and police AI are all absolutely atrocious and immersion breaking in every way.

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didn't this game get a bunch of 9/10s

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Idk if it sounds stupid but I'm still optimistic about playing the game in like a year. It might never be perfect, but it still sounds cool.

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This is what feature creep will do to a game. Im enjoying it on PC, but it is very apparent they just kept chucking in every new idea without taking time to finish most of them or make sure the game is working right lol

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TheSavageDragon posted...

Exactly the same as you on a base PS4. 30 hours, 3 crashes. There are definitely severe issues that need to be addressed, but Skyrim on PS3 was way worse (crashed nearly every session for me), barely got fixed and remains on the PS3 store, It even runs like shit on PS4.
Is it Cyberpunk's marketing campaign/hype that's causing this unprecedented amount of backlash?

This is probably the key factor. I also suspect CDPR being only a quasi Western company makes it easier to remove. Many people make foreign cultures/countries meet higher standards (of course they will never say this out loud).

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