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skermac
12/15/20 12:08:36 PM
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It always has been so I dont know why jill biden is getting hate for calling herself doctor, i mean she has a phd but politicians are gonna hate on other parties i say leave her alone , she earned the right to use the prefix when she she got her phd

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Hexenherz
12/15/20 12:09:56 PM
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Yes, 100% fine. It's an academic title, in a civilized society we would refer to people by their position like this.

People who think it pertains only to the cardiologist down the street need to learn some history.

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Jabodie
12/15/20 12:12:20 PM
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Yes. The misconception is basically a class divide I think. For normal people, medical doctors are probably the only doctors they interact with, so it's understandable.

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brestugo
12/15/20 12:14:16 PM
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It is pure politics. They can't go after Joe, so they're going after Jill and Joe's son. This is Gingrich level bullshit.

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divot1338
12/15/20 12:14:33 PM
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doctor

From the Latin docere meaning to teach.

Honestly medical doctors shouldnt be calling themselves doctors based on what it means.

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Hexenherz
12/15/20 12:17:50 PM
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brestugo posted...
It is pure politics. They can't go after Joe, so they're going after Jill and Joe's son. This is Gingrich level bullshit.
This, too. And it's not even anything to go after. It's nothing. It's as stupid as "Michelle Obama is a man!!". Why do people buy into it? Just *look* at the argument here and ask yourself if it has anything to do with literally anything. Like even if she *weren't* a doctor what difference would that make in the grand scheme of things?

Why don't people think any more???

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Flockaveli
12/15/20 12:18:33 PM
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I'd call professors "Dr." all the time.

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Jabodie
12/15/20 12:18:53 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Why don't people think any more???
What do you mean "any more"?

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TheMikh
12/15/20 12:19:55 PM
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it's an honorific in academia

might be a bit unorthodox outside that realm, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it

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divot1338
12/15/20 12:28:05 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
They also teach.
No.

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SquirtleSkwad
12/15/20 12:29:34 PM
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Yes, but it also depends on how much a pompous ass they are about it. If you're trying to brag about how long you were in academia, I'll call you Mr./Ms. all night.

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divot1338
12/15/20 12:31:19 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Ok, live in denial.
No I live in Texas.

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skermac
12/15/20 12:33:54 PM
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brestugo posted...
It is pure politics. They can't go after Joe, so they're going after Jill and Joe's son. This is Gingrich level bullshit.

this sounds about right

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
12/15/20 1:07:48 PM
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Jill Biden holds an Ed.D., which is an academic doctorate akin to the Ph.D. Frankly, in my opinion, it's even more appropriate for individuals like her with such degrees to refer to themselves as "Dr." as opposed to folks with professional doctorates (MD/DO, PharmD, DMD, JD, etc). She actually had to complete a doctoral thesis/dissertation, which is really what being a "doctor" is all about.

For example, my mother holds a PhD and my siblings and I hold professional doctorates. As far as I'm concerned, her PhD is more valuable than our doctorates - she did a thesis, we didn't.

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Phynaster
12/15/20 1:38:08 PM
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MDs literally stole the title from academia to give themselves more legitimacy

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SauI_Goodman
12/15/20 1:40:36 PM
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Remember that lady on the plane who flipped cause the stewardess called her miss instead of dr. First of all how is she supposed to knw your educational background. Secondly i would have loved to have been on that plane. I would have made it a goal of mine to get up and use the bathroom 5 or 6 times and everytime i pass her i would say so sorry miss. Excuse me miss.

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Smackems
12/15/20 1:41:31 PM
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Could not possibly give less of a shit what they call themselves

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MC_BatCommander
12/15/20 1:43:36 PM
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It was used by academics long before physicians used it

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gamer167
12/15/20 1:44:29 PM
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Even though I know it is, Im going to lie and say no because some of the most insufferable people I have ever met in my life tried to wield their title/PhD like a weapon and it annoyed the shit out of me.

Bro, no one gives a fuck about your PhD in English.
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Phynaster
12/15/20 1:45:23 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Even though I know it is, Im going to lie and say no because some of the most insufferable people I have ever met in my life tried to wield their title/PhD like a weapon and it annoyed the shit out of me.

Bro, no one gives a fuck about your PhD in English.
Nobody really does this and a PhD in English is as valid as a PhD in any field. Stay mad NEET

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gamer167
12/15/20 1:50:49 PM
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Phynaster posted...

Nobody really does this and a PhD in English is as valid as a PhD in any field. Stay mad NEET


Someone took my comment a little too personally lol.
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monkmith
12/15/20 1:51:29 PM
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its all about usage. if she has her students call her doctor biden it makes sense, if she demands the barista at starbucks writes dr on her cup then its a different thing...

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flamedearflame
12/15/20 1:52:19 PM
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Yeah I don't see why not.
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Phynaster
12/15/20 1:56:33 PM
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monkmith posted...
its all about usage. if she has her students call her doctor biden it makes sense, if she demands the barista at starbucks writes dr on her cup then its a different thing...
Yes because thats the scenario republicans are mad about

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Garioshi
12/15/20 1:57:17 PM
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That's literally what dr means

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Reis
12/15/20 1:57:34 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Remember that lady on the plane who flipped cause the stewardess called her miss instead of dr. First of all how is she supposed to knw your educational background. Secondly i would have loved to have been on that plane. I would have made it a goal of mine to get up and use the bathroom 5 or 6 times and everytime i pass her i would say so sorry miss. Excuse me miss.

wow so brave
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SauI_Goodman
12/15/20 2:00:11 PM
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Reis posted...
wow so brave
Thank you! Takes a bow thank you! Takes another bow

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JuanCarlos1
12/15/20 2:06:55 PM
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brestugo posted...
It is pure politics. They can't go after Joe, so they're going after Jill and Joe's son. This is Gingrich level bullshit.

Yep, this will be the first of many "Obama's tan suit" moments. Cant find any actual fault? Lets critique their dog's hairstyle.

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monkmith
12/15/20 2:08:07 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Yes because thats the scenario republicans are mad about
what's the scenario they care about? because all i've really seen is one guy bitching about a woman with a title.

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Serious Cat
12/15/20 2:10:46 PM
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monkmith posted...
what's the scenario they care about?
A woman with a doctorate in education who works professionally in education calling herself a doctor. But it's not just "one guy."

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monkmith
12/15/20 2:12:17 PM
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Serious Cat posted...
A woman with a doctorate in education who works professionally in education calling herself a doctor. But it's not just "one guy."
one guy writes for a paper, the rest is internet background noise.

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Zanzenburger
12/15/20 2:15:19 PM
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The people who insist that they be called doctors are more likely to have received an honorary doctorate, a doctorate from a non-accredited diploma mill, or a low-ranked for-profit institution that meets the bare minimums for accreditation, usually because they feel like they have something to prove.

People with PhDs and such typically don't put so much emphasis on it. They'll mention it like they mention their name, but that's it. As far as I know, Jill Biden has not made any fuss about being called Dr. This guy just decided to create an issue where there was none due to an inferiority complex.

As a PhD holder myself, I tell my students in my statistics classes my full name, and that they can call me Dr. Lastname or call me by my first name. Doesn't matter to me. Still, 99% of students will refer to me by my Dr. title or simply "Professor" out of respect.

With that being said, I do know that many women and minorities do insist that they be acknowledged as Dr. simply because their education and expertise is constantly questioned and demeaned, so I think they are justified in that. This article just goes to prove exactly why this happens.

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Serious Cat
12/15/20 2:29:19 PM
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monkmith posted...
one guy writes for a paper, the rest is internet background noise.
Ben Shapiro is whining about it too.

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monkmith
12/15/20 2:52:44 PM
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Serious Cat posted...
Ben Shapiro is whining about it too.
i'm still convinced he's internet noise.

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skermac
12/15/20 6:38:30 PM
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Serious Cat posted...
Ben Shapiro is whining about it too.

lol

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