Current Events > Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie, but I can see why people mistake it for one:

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averagejoel
12/12/20 4:31:18 PM
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-it's set on December 24th, which is not Christmas day
-the song Let it Snow, which contains no reference of any kind to Christmas, gets played at the end

it's a perfectly understandable mistake

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The Trent
12/12/20 4:31:35 PM
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comedy can be tricky

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rodu_jr
12/12/20 4:31:55 PM
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remember the Christmas episode of Band of Brothers? My favorite!!
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Shablagoo
12/12/20 4:34:12 PM
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Gruber's gang in Die Hard needed the reduced security and number of employees in the building for a nighttime Christmas party for them to get into the building more easily, but they also needed enough employees at the party to create a hostage situation that would get the FBI out so they could turn off the power, letting them drill into the vault.

You take Xmas out and they don't have their opportunity to make their heist.

And McClane is in that building specifically because it's Christmas.

No Christmas, no Die Hard.

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viewmaster_pi
12/12/20 4:40:08 PM
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McClane? More like... McClaus

he even says ho ho ho (now i have a machine gun)

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RustyFerret
12/12/20 4:49:34 PM
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I don't really consider it a Christmas movie in the traditional sense because there is no central message or theme of the holiday in the movie.

It just serves as a setting, like in Gremlins. They could have changed the setting to a New Years Eve party and it wouldn't have changed much.
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viewmaster_pi
12/12/20 4:50:27 PM
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gremlins is also a christmas movie

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Smashingpmkns
12/12/20 4:50:47 PM
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Both Die Hard and Lethal Weapon are Christmas movies. People always leave out LW.
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argonautweakend
12/12/20 4:50:53 PM
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I feel like to be a Christmas movie it needs to be about Christmas or have Christmas be a significant plot point.

Movies simply set in and around Christmas don't really count.
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viewmaster_pi
12/12/20 4:51:53 PM
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tremors is also a christmas movie iirc

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Hippocrates
12/12/20 4:52:18 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
I feel like to be a Christmas movie it needs to be about Christmas or have Christmas be a significant plot point

yeah, like die hard
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averagejoel
12/12/20 4:55:21 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Gruber's gang in Die Hard needed the reduced security and number of employees in the building for a nighttime Christmas party for them to get into the building more easily, but they also needed enough employees at the party to create a hostage situation that would get the FBI out so they could turn off the power, letting them drill into the vault.

You take Xmas out and they don't have their opportunity to make their heist.

And McClane is in that building specifically because it's Christmas.

No Christmas, no Die Hard.
it didn't necessarily have to be a Christmas party. any kind of party would have worked

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The Trent
12/12/20 4:56:10 PM
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what other holidays have corporate parties, averagejoel?

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Tenlaar
12/12/20 4:57:46 PM
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Hippocrates posted...
yeah, like die hard
If any event party can be slotted in with the same results, like the aforementioned New Year's Eve or a product launch party, then Christmas itself is not a significant plot point.
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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 4:58:29 PM
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I like how TC ignored the ho-ho-ho now I have a machine gun part because it would have ruined his argument.
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rodu_jr
12/12/20 4:59:44 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
tremors is also a christmas movie iirc
I don't recall any time of year specified
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Hippocrates
12/12/20 4:59:54 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
If any event party can be slotted in with the same results, like the aforementioned New Year's Eve or a product launch party, then Christmas itself is not a significant plot point.
"if it wasn't a christmas movie it wouldn't be a christmas movie"

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Seitar
12/12/20 5:00:15 PM
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averagejoel posted...
-it's set on December 24th, which is not Christmas day
Except a lot of places in the world treat Christmas Eve as the big day, Japan does this and Nakatomi Plaza is the building of the Japanese company Nakatomi Corporation so this just makes it more of a Christmas movie.


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Tenlaar
12/12/20 5:00:34 PM
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Hippocrates posted...
"if it wasn't a christmas movie it wouldn't be a christmas movie"

agreed
Again, the existence of Christmas being acknowledged in a movie is not Christmas being a central part of the movie's plot.
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viewmaster_pi
12/12/20 5:02:31 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
I don't recall any time of year specified
so you can't prove it wasn't december

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GATTJT
12/12/20 5:05:55 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Again, the existence of Christmas being acknowledged in a movie is not Christmas being a central part of the movie's plot.
Is Gruber's plan not a central part of the movie's plot? Does Gruber's plan not center around it being Christmas Eve?

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Tenlaar
12/12/20 5:07:46 PM
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GATTJT posted...
Is Gruber's plan not a central part of the movie's plot? Does Gruber's plan not center around it being Christmas Eve?
No, Gruber's plan centers around there being an after hours staff party with minimal security.
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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 5:10:01 PM
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Tenlaar posted...

No, Gruber's plan centers around there being an after hours staff party with minimal security.

Christmas Vacation's plot just centers on there being a tree in the living room.
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Tenlaar
12/12/20 5:12:07 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Christmas Vacation's plot just centers on there being a tree in the living room.
You're just proving my point, the fact that they made five of those Vacation movies about other events is evidence that it wasn't actually centered around Christmas but the Griswold family.
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AlCalavicci
12/12/20 5:15:27 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
No, Gruber's plan centers around there being an after hours staff party with minimal security.

It being an after hours staff party with minimal security at other parts of the year doesn't necessarily put John McClane at that party.

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viewmaster_pi
12/12/20 5:16:01 PM
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Griswold? Christmas? Christwold? The writing's on the wall man

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ViewtifulGrave
12/12/20 5:16:18 PM
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https://youtu.be/zNuMGQuQFFs

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realnifty1
12/12/20 5:33:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaJuwKCmJbY

First thing you hear in the trailer.
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008Zulu
12/12/20 5:33:35 PM
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Christmas movies can be defined as such, by completing two important criteria;

1- It is set on or around Christmas Day.
2- The main character, or characters, learn an important lesson.

DIe Hard is a Christmas movie, because it was set around Christmas, and John learned the importance of family.

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Kajagogo
12/12/20 5:35:49 PM
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It's about a man doing whatever it takes to be reunited with his family for Christmas.

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Guerrilla Soldier
12/12/20 5:37:57 PM
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the whole reason it happened was because it was christmas

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Strider102
12/12/20 5:38:29 PM
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Imagine thinking it's not a Christmas movie.

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