Current Events > Brandon Bernard executed after Supreme Court denies request for a delay.

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jstewart01
12/10/20 11:57:19 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/brandon-bernard-executed/index.html

Brandon Bernard was executed by the federal government on Thursday at the Federal Correctional Center in Terre Haute, Indiana, according to a pool report.
Bernard, 40, was one of five gang members convicted in Texas of killing Stacie and Todd Bagley -- who were youth ministers -- in 1999. The gunman, Christopher Vialva, was executed in September, while the other co-defendants were given lesser sentences.
Bernard was pronounced dead at 9:27 p.m. He was the youngest person in the United States to receive a death sentence in nearly 70 years for a crime committed when he was an adolescent.


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Phynaster
12/11/20 12:15:48 AM
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Couldn't possibly give less of a fuck.

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I think shooting people and then burning them alive sucks a bit more but sure.

Also calling 18 an "adolescent" seems deliberately biased.

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Hippocrates
12/11/20 12:17:00 AM
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the death penalty is bad imo
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Smackems
12/11/20 12:48:04 AM
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If he did it, then fair

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threetimes
12/11/20 12:51:11 AM
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He was only 18 when he committed the crime and was an accomplice, not the main instigator. He also had been a model prisoner and deeply regretted his actions. This is a cruel action that serves no purpose other than vengeance.

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Phynaster
12/11/20 12:52:22 AM
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threetimes posted...
He was only 18 when he committed the crime and was an accomplice, not the main instigator. He also had been a model prisoner and deeply regretted his actions. This is a cruel action that serves no purpose other than vengeance.
18 is an adult and I'm pretty sure most 18 years olds don't murder people. And he's the one who lit the car on fire, which evidence shows was the cause of death for at least one of them.

Find better people to defend for fuck's sake.

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TheLiarParadox
12/11/20 12:53:17 AM
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threetimes posted...
This is a cruel action that serves no purpose other than vengeance.


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Compsognathus
12/11/20 1:12:36 AM
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The death penalty is barbaric and has no place in modern society. It doesn't matter what the person did, no one deserves to have the government just kill you when you have been detained and are otherwise no threat to society.

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Questionmarktarius
12/11/20 1:29:28 AM
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threetimes posted...
This is a cruel action that serves no purpose other than vengeance.
It's not even cost-effective, over just warehousing someone forever.
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fuming
12/11/20 1:33:28 AM
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Hippocrates posted...
the death penalty is bad imo

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omega cookie
12/11/20 1:35:56 AM
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threetimes posted...
He also had been a model prisoner
"Not trying to steal an extra pudding on pudding sundays totally makes up for those people whose lives you ended."

I pity you.

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MrToothHasYou
12/11/20 1:38:09 AM
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threetimes posted...
This is a cruel action that serves no purpose other than vengeance.


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FlameTurtle
12/11/20 1:41:01 AM
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Abolish the death penalty

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Smashingpmkns
12/11/20 1:44:21 AM
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The death penalty is fucked and should be abolished
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SomeLikeItHoth
12/11/20 1:44:26 AM
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What took so long? Should have just shot him when he got caught.

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WalkingLobsters
12/11/20 1:47:53 AM
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fair next

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Evening_Dragon
12/11/20 1:52:23 AM
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Phynaster posted...
Couldn't possibly give less of a fuck.

I think shooting people and then burning them alive sucks a bit more but sure.

Also calling 18 an "adolescent" seems deliberately biased.

If he was that same person, I'd have no problem with the fair next. But he's only done good in the 20+ years since.

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Questionmarktarius
12/11/20 2:08:02 AM
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Why was this federal jurisdiction anyway?
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Tyranthraxus
12/11/20 2:08:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why was this federal jurisdiction anyway?
Because he killed Iowa residents I guess

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fuming
12/11/20 3:14:12 AM
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omega cookie posted...
"Not trying to steal an extra pudding on pudding sundays totally makes up for those people whose lives you ended."

I pity you.

nobody has ever said in this topic that any of his actions later on "make up for" it.
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Gobstoppers12
12/11/20 3:15:47 AM
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Lotta people in here advocating for the continued existence of heinous murderers.

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Adyingod
12/11/20 3:15:48 AM
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No point crying over spilt milk

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Frostshock
12/11/20 3:25:37 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Lotta people in here advocating for the continued existence of heinous murderers.

I dunno, life imprisonment is an inhumane punishment, if anyone was defending him they should be happy he was executed.

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Beemo_Season11
12/11/20 3:33:19 AM
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The real issue is how long they remain locked up prior.
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AP3Brain
12/11/20 3:35:07 AM
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Fuck the death penalty no matter the crime. A lot of you have too much trust in our police and judicial system.
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Sheeeeesh
12/11/20 3:37:50 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
fair next

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Nazanir
12/11/20 3:40:10 AM
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Fuck you CE you are pissing me off.

Last week there was a thread how a man robbing a diner got killed by a bystander and that bystander was lauded as a goddamn hero (which disgusted me and I ended up getting flak for it) and now the death penalty is a bad thing and now you all are compasionate?

Make up your fucking mind.

Also, in another current thread people were also advocating for the death penalty for some coach who slapped a kid.

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threetimes
12/11/20 3:40:46 AM
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The death penalty is barbaric. Also, for a lame duck president that's not been re-elected to enact the death penalty is particularly heinous given that the incoming president, Biden, is against it.

"Five executions are scheduled before President-elect Joe Biden's 20 January inauguration - breaking with an 130-year-old precedent of pausing executions amid a presidential transition.
And if all five take place, Mr Trump will be the country's most prolific execution president in more than a century, overseeing the executions of 13 death row inmates since July of this year."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260

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TheLiarParadox
12/11/20 3:46:20 AM
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Nazanir posted...


Last week there was a thread how a man robbing a diner got killed by a bystander and that bystander was lauded as a goddamn hero (which disgusted me and I ended up getting flak for it) and now the death penalty is a bad thing and now you all are compasionate?
I don't know anything about that story but if it's a case of someone stopping a threat as it's happening, that's a fair bit different than the state deciding to executed someone who has been behind bars for almost two decades.

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Middle hope
12/11/20 3:52:15 AM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
I don't know anything about that story but if it's a case of someone stopping a threat as it's happening, that's a fair bit different than the state deciding to executed someone who has been behind bars for almost two decades.
You can't really compare the 2 situations.

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ShineboxPhil
12/11/20 4:06:40 AM
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I don't sympathize for gang members

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DeadorDead8
12/11/20 4:08:06 AM
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So the man killed 2 people and people are defending him?
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UnholyMudcrab
12/11/20 4:13:22 AM
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"Pro-life" conservatives just salivate at the thought of executions. It's truly sickening.
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TheLiarParadox
12/11/20 4:18:28 AM
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DeadorDead8 posted...
So the man killed 2 people and people are defending him?
Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not so much defending him as I am opposing the state's ability to execute anyone.

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TheRealDill2000
12/11/20 6:14:23 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
What took so long? Should have just shot him when he got caught.

This is a bad take.
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JoeThe12th
12/11/20 7:09:35 AM
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Why do so many people here have no empathy or nuance when it comes to understanding things like this. Grow the fuck up.
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Number090684
12/11/20 7:16:19 AM
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What that murdering criminal Bernard did was absolutely terrible and I feel his execution seems fair, even if he was just a accomplice to the murders. The feds just murdered him to slake the families thirst for vengeance and to "make a example out of" another black man for sure. But for the victim's families to then politicise his execution by thanking Trump is absolutely disgusting. I get Indiana is red but Jesus man....

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fuming
12/11/20 7:25:36 AM
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Spooking posted...
Killed somebody and burnt another person alive? Fuck him and fuck his supporters (all on Twitter).

that isn't what happened.
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Number090684
12/11/20 7:27:35 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
What took so long? Should have just shot him when he got caught.

While it would have saved IN taxpayer dollars to execute him earlier you've got to admit this is the ultimate trolling. Locking Bernard up for decades, having him think he had a chance in hell of staying alive in there or even walking out as a free man again if he was on his best behavior and a model prisoner, only to flip the script, and then deny him his plea for more time and promptly execute him, right before the holidays no less. Some sick sadist fucks have to be in charge of that prison for sure. They should have at least gave him until after the New Year.

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John_Galt
12/11/20 7:28:30 AM
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Fair, next

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JoeThe12th
12/11/20 7:29:17 AM
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You people are sick
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Phynaster
12/11/20 7:29:58 AM
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fuming posted...
that isn't what happened.
Was accomplice to two shootings and he personally lit the car on fire while at least one was still alive

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ThunderTrain
12/11/20 7:31:48 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
"Pro-life" conservatives just salivate at the thought of executions. It's truly sickening.

I saw a conservative say something along the lines of "There's Life and there's life and the death penalty deals with the latter" and I just have no fucking clue what that means.

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fuming
12/11/20 7:34:29 AM
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ThunderTrain posted...
I saw a conservative say something along the lines of "There's Life and there's life and the death penalty deals with the latter" and I just have no fucking clue what that means.

it means they don't consider you a life if you aren't perfect in their minds. They do not care about life - the only thing they like about babies is that they have yet to trigger a death flag in their minds.
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TommyG663513
12/11/20 7:38:36 AM
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Phynaster posted...
Was accomplice to two shootings and he personally lit the car on fire while at least one was still alive

Uh I read an article that stated this definitely wasn't true. They were very much dead before the car was on fire and it's reasonable to think this particular person didn't start the fire.

Also, all five of the still living jurors say they would've ruled this case differently with now available evidence. All of the jurors pleaded for him not to be executed

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