Current Events > Is it canon that every system update just screws up your phone further?

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I can't recall an android update that ever made me go "wow, this is more convenient" or at the very least "well, at least they didn't try fix what ain't broke"

If anything samsung updates keep trying to make the phone more like an iphone which boggles the mind cause why did I even bother getting the alternative phone.
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Your first mistake was getting a Samsung and not a Pixel.

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I mean, they're all the same aren't they. I'm not crazy about samsung either, it's just what I happened to get and didn't feel like changing things since none of them will have exactly what I'm looking for in a phone (which isn't much)
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Just go iOS man

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saspa posted...

I mean, they're all the same aren't they. I'm not crazy about samsung either, it's just what I happened to get and didn't feel like changing things since none of them will have exactly what I'm looking for in a phone (which isn't much)

They absolutely are not the same!

Android is a lot like Windows, in that it's a base operating system that anyone can muck with.

Pixels are Surfaces in this metaphor hardware made and managed by the same company that makes the OS, giving tight integration, quick updates, good support, and fast, stock OS experience.

Samsung is Lenovo, or Dell, or HP, in that they make their own hardware, screw around with the OS, and add a bunch of junk. As they aren't the creators of the OS, they don't care as much about how the actual OS operates and how quickly and cleanly updates are provided.

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Not intending to play devil's advocate or anything, but I work in software development and I can say from experience that no matter how good the feature or the improvement, if you force people to do a task in a slightly different way then the way they are entrenched in without sufficient warning and expectations set - then they will always, 100% of the time complain about it.

We've often fallen into the trap of engineering new solutions and then having to recall those solutions later on because apparently people do enjoy pressing 5 buttons to do a thing instead of 1, at times.

Even just on this website I see any time they make even slightly convenient features available people just whinge about the layout or whatever else.

Android have the complication of trying to provide support for a system which is fundamentally allowed to have a practically infinite combinations of configuration.

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pinky0926 posted...

Not intending to play devil's advocate or anything, but I work in software development and I can say from experience that no matter how good the feature or the improvement, if you force people to do a task in a slightly different way then the way they are entrenched in without sufficient warning and expectations set - then they will always, 100% of the time complain about it.

We've often fallen into the trap of engineering new solutions and then having to recall those solutions later on because apparently people do enjoy pressing 5 buttons to do a thing instead of 1, at times.

Even just on this website I see any time they make even slightly convenient features available people just whinge about the layout or whatever else.

Android have the complication of trying to provide support for a system which is fundamentally allowed to have a practically infinite combinations of configuration.

Oh, absolutely. Just look at every major new version of Windows. People lose their mind when things change, even if it is objectively for the better. It's honestly my biggest pet peeve of all time.

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pinky0926 posted...

Not intending to play devil's advocate or anything, but I work in software development and I can say from experience that no matter how good the feature or the improvement, if you force people to do a task in a slightly different way then the way they are entrenched in without sufficient warning and expectations set - then they will always, 100% of the time complain about it.

We've often fallen into the trap of engineering new solutions and then having to recall those solutions later on because apparently people do enjoy pressing 5 buttons to do a thing instead of 1, at times.

Even just on this website I see any time they make even slightly convenient features available people just whinge about the layout or whatever else.

Android have the complication of trying to provide support for a system which is fundamentally allowed to have a practically infinite combinations of configuration.

I can definitely see that. Very often change is met with fear and loathing.

With this being said, there has never been a change that's any good. I think I can count like maybe one time, a change after an update was better, and I can't remember what it was.

Maybe it depends on the person, but here's the changes they've done that left the phone worse off:

- before you could google search any words you select, even ones you typed yourself, but now you cant

- apps are no longer "stacked" when you go to the menu page, they're now just like iphone's terrible design of long cumbersome side by side stacking where you can't see all the apps you have open at a glance, you have to continuously swipe left or right. Why? just why?

- In the youtube app, clicking back button could take you to the previous video instantly, no need to click anything else. Now it doesn't, so you can't go to the previous video anymore except through history page

These are some of the more bizarre changes that still bother, the rest I've mostly made my peace with
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Speaking of this website, am I the only one who's surprised that no one is bothered by how they removed the quoting system? I know it was prone to abuse by people who ruined it for everyone else with endless quote trees, but a fix that makes more sense would be to have made them collapsible maybe.
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Now I got a new notification for another system update and I'm just wary of what they'll change now
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saspa posted...

I can definitely see that. Very often change is met with fear and loathing.

With this being said, there has never been a change that's any good. I think I can count like maybe one time, a change after an update was better, and I can't remember what it was.

Maybe it depends on the person, but here's the changes they've done that left the phone worse off:

- before you could google search any words you select, even ones you typed yourself, but now you cant

- apps are no longer "stacked" when you go to the menu page, they're now just like iphone's terrible design of long cumbersome side by side stacking where you can't see all the apps you have open at a glance, you have to continuously swipe left or right. Why? just why?

- In the youtube app, clicking back button could take you to the previous video instantly, no need to click anything else. Now it doesn't, so you can't go to the previous video anymore except through history page

These are some of the more bizarre changes that still bother, the rest I've mostly made my peace with

With Good Lock, you can change the app menu.

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Can it change how opened apps are presented
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