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ssk9716757 12/08/20 8:50:42 PM #1:	Also gamers: stop analyzing political and social issues in games --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:948082239] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Also gamers: stop analyzing political and social issues in games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phynaster 12/08/20 8:55:32 PM #3:	Pretty much. Also gamers: keep politics out of games! More games should be apolitical like call of duty and the witcher or FF7! --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:948082399] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much. Also gamers: keep politics out of games! More games should be apolitical like call of duty and the witcher or FF7! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/08/20 8:56:49 PM #4:	Phynaster posted... Pretty much. Also gamers: keep politics out of games! More games should be apolitical like call of duty and the witcher or FF7! Legit had someone tell me MGS isn't political. Dead ass <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948082450] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty much. Also gamers: keep politics out of games! More games should be apolitical like call of duty and the witcher or FF7!</quote>Legit had someone tell me MGS isn't political. Dead ass </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 12/08/20 8:59:05 PM #5:	they want games to be art but whenever something doesn't get rated as highly as they'd like, they can't handle it. 8.8 isn't a bad score, folks. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:948082531] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>they want games to be art but whenever something doesn't get rated as highly as they'd like, they can't handle it. 8.8 isn't a bad score, folks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 12/08/20 8:59:52 PM #6:	the games are art cringefest was all from developers and """"video game journalist""" people who just play them really didn't care <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:948082552] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>the games are art cringefest was all from developers and """"video game journalist""" people who just play them really didn't care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 12/08/20 9:06:56 PM #7:	Personally, I was fine with games just being a source of entertainment. I'm not against recognizing them as art, but I never felt they needed to be taken so seriously. --- Currently playing: DFFOO, FFBE <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:948082772] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Personally, I was fine with games just being a source of entertainment. I'm not against recognizing them as art, but I never felt they needed to be taken so seriously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/08/20 9:07:39 PM #8:	Video games are toys. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:948082800] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Video games are toys. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 12/08/20 9:07:51 PM #9:	Everybody: Different opinions TC: wahhh --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:948082808] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Everybody: Different opinions TC: wahhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 12/08/20 9:08:46 PM #10:	I think that in the grand scheme of things the gaming community are destined for great things. There just needs to be a way to self-regulate and trim the fat. Too many toxic individuals who would rather troll than be constructive. Also, games are art and the fact that some people are made uncomfortable by the narrative in some games is a good place to start. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:948082840] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>I think that in the grand scheme of things the gaming community are destined for great things. There just needs to be a way to self-regulate and trim the fat. Too many toxic individuals who would rather troll than be constructive. Also, games are art and the fact that some people are made uncomfortable by the narrative in some games is a good place to start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 12/08/20 9:17:44 PM #11:	I just want games to be good. Don't give a fuck about the art shit <cite>coh posted [p:948083142] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>I just want games to be good. Don't give a fuck about the art shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lightwarrior78 12/08/20 9:21:48 PM #13:	ssk9716757 posted... Also gamers: stop analyzing political and social issues in games If it wasn't every game you can think of and people could offer rebuttal to one sided talking points full of inaccuracies, we'd probably love to talk politics and themes. Sadly what we get is "accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have or be labeled worse than Hitler". Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people. --- http://backloggery.com/reddthesock <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:948083299] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>Also gamers: stop analyzing political and social issues in games</quote>If it wasn't every game you can think of and people could offer rebuttal to one sided talking points full of inaccuracies, we'd probably love to talk politics and themes. Sadly what we get is "accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have or be labeled worse than Hitler". Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 12/08/20 9:22:36 PM #14:	lightwarrior78 posted... accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have what lightwarrior78 posted... Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people. Please list examples of apolitical games --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:948083320] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>lightwarrior78 posted... </cite> <quote>accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have</quote>what lightwarrior78 posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people.</quote>Please list examples of apolitical games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 12/08/20 9:23:59 PM #15:	I don't think gamers are against politics in games. Nobody complained about Bishock being political <cite>coh posted [p:948083377] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>I don't think gamers are against politics in games. Nobody complained about Bishock being political </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/08/20 9:24:11 PM #16:	lightwarrior78 posted... If it wasn't every game you can think of and people could offer rebuttal to one sided talking points full of inaccuracies, we'd probably love to talk politics and themes. Sadly what we get is "accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have or be labeled worse than Hitler". Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people. Examples of these "one sided" games you're talking about and where the game calls you hitler if you disagree please. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:948083388] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>lightwarrior78 posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't every game you can think of and people could offer rebuttal to one sided talking points full of inaccuracies, we'd probably love to talk politics and themes. Sadly what we get is "accept my heavily biased opinion based on far less understanding than you have or be labeled worse than Hitler". Maybe it's best to keep politics out if that's what politics is to some people.</quote>Examples of these "one sided" games you're talking about and where the game calls you hitler if you disagree please. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 12/08/20 9:25:54 PM #18:	If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is --- I can see from your smile...You're not here for the sunset <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:948083457] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 12/08/20 9:26:36 PM #19:	Zodd3224 posted... If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is Now that's the kind of art in gaming I can get behind <cite>coh posted [p:948083493] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is</quote>Now that's the kind of art in gaming I can get behind </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/08/20 9:28:24 PM #20:	DuranOfForcena posted... you tried --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:948083565] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>you tried</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssk9716757 12/08/20 10:27:24 PM #21:	CrimsonRage posted... how strange that people started caring about 'too much politics' in games when gay people started showing up capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked. --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:948085482] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonRage posted... </cite> <quote>how strange that people started caring about 'too much politics' in games when gay people started showing up </quote> capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/09/20 8:16:56 PM #22:	ssk9716757 posted... capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked. True <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:948123942] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked.</quote>True </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/20 8:27:57 PM #23:	ssk9716757 posted... capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked. That's why the marginally-updated annual dudebro shooters keep selling. The safespace already exists. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:948124391] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>capital-G Gamers really just want a safe space for straight cis white men. anything that threatens that safe space must be attacked.</quote>That's why the marginally-updated annual dudebro shooters keep selling. The safespace already exists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sevihaimerej 12/09/20 8:36:20 PM #24:	Zodd3224 posted... If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is Seriously though, Nier Automata is worthy of some analysis. Notice how the politics of that world were never a controversial topic, prudes that hate attractive female characters were the only source of divide there. If one chooses to view games as art what does that say about the people so ideologically repulsed by beauty that they refused to experience such a masterpiece? And why did the very relevant to the modern world politics never even come up? The answer to the latter question is that the game doesn't try to force a position on you as clearly positive, it encourages you to ponder these big questions yourself and come to your own conclusions. When people say they don't want politics in games what they mean is they don't want to be preached at and they don't want politics limiting artistic expression --- https://imgtc.com/Y8ojZ3x <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:948124749] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>If 2B isn't a work of art I dont know what is</quote>Seriously though, Nier Automata is worthy of some analysis. Notice how the politics of that world were never a controversial topic, prudes that hate attractive female characters were the only source of divide there. If one chooses to view games as art what does that say about the people so ideologically repulsed by beauty that they refused to experience such a masterpiece? And why did the very relevant to the modern world politics never even come up? The answer to the latter question is that the game doesn't try to force a position on you as clearly positive, it encourages you to ponder these big questions yourself and come to your own conclusions. When people say they don't want politics in games what they mean is they don't want to be preached at and they don't want politics limiting artistic expression </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 12/09/20 8:37:33 PM #25:	sevihaimerej posted... Seriously though, Nier Automata is worthy of some analysis. Notice how the politics of that world were never a controversial topic, prudes that hate attractive female characters were the only source of divide there. If one chooses to view games as art what does that say about the people so ideologically repulsed by beauty that they refused to experience such a masterpiece? And why did the very relevant to the modern world politics never even come up? The answer to the latter question is that the game doesn't try to force a position on you as clearly positive, it encourages you to ponder these big questions yourself and come to your own conclusions. When people say they don't want politics in games what they mean is they don't want to be preached at and they don't want politics limiting artistic expression Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:948124806] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>sevihaimerej posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously though, Nier Automata is worthy of some analysis. Notice how the politics of that world were never a controversial topic, prudes that hate attractive female characters were the only source of divide there. If one chooses to view games as art what does that say about the people so ideologically repulsed by beauty that they refused to experience such a masterpiece? And why did the very relevant to the modern world politics never even come up? The answer to the latter question is that the game doesn't try to force a position on you as clearly positive, it encourages you to ponder these big questions yourself and come to your own conclusions. When people say they don't want politics in games what they mean is they don't want to be preached at and they don't want politics limiting artistic expression</quote>Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/20 8:38:47 PM #26:	Phynaster posted... Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight "art!" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:948124855] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight</quote>"art!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sevihaimerej 12/09/20 8:47:10 PM #27:	Phynaster posted... Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight Well, this topic is just a weird strawman so why should I bother offering insight? At least I clearly defined what people actually mean when they decry heavy handed politics in games, what exactly is it you're contributing to this topic? --- https://imgtc.com/Y8ojZ3x <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:948125174] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>Great word diarrhea with absolutely no nuggets of insight</quote>Well, this topic is just a weird strawman so why should I bother offering insight? At least I clearly defined what people actually mean when they decry heavy handed politics in games, what exactly is it you're contributing to this topic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 12/09/20 8:48:17 PM #28:	Please give examples of all the "prudes ideologically repulsed by beauty" who refused to play Nier. Because pretty much any leftwing gamer person I know of loved it. And there have been plenty of discussions about Nier's politics. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:948125219] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Please give examples of all the "prudes ideologically repulsed by beauty" who refused to play Nier. Because pretty much any leftwing gamer person I know of loved it. And there have been plenty of discussions about Nier's politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sevihaimerej 12/09/20 9:06:37 PM #29:	Phynaster posted... Please give examples of all the "prudes ideologically repulsed by beauty" who refused to play Nier. Because pretty much any leftwing gamer person I know of loved it. And there have been plenty of discussions about Nier's politics. I could pull up resetera threads and ultra conservative Christian blogs if you like, but my point was actually leading to the fact that that game is very political yet didn't have this divisive culture war shitstorm on release like so many games seem to lately ie only a small handful of very specific breeds of extremists were up in arms about it. And to clarify, I should've probably said something more along the lines of "and there was no major political divides surrounding discussion of the politics in the game, discussion was tame and enjoyable rather than extremists shouting past each other. Sigh, I'm too high to argue properly but I'm hopelessly addicted to it :) --- https://imgtc.com/Y8ojZ3x <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:948125869] in Gamers: ga... [t:79161257]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>Please give examples of all the "prudes ideologically repulsed by beauty" who refused to play Nier. Because pretty much any leftwing gamer person I know of loved it. And there have been plenty of discussions about Nier's politics.</quote>I could pull up resetera threads and ultra conservative Christian blogs if you like, but my point was actually leading to the fact that that game is very political yet didn't have this divisive culture war shitstorm on release like so many games seem to lately ie only a small handful of very specific breeds of extremists were up in arms about it. And to clarify, I should've probably said something more along the lines of "and there was no major political divides surrounding discussion of the politics in the game, discussion was tame and enjoyable rather than extremists shouting past each other. Sigh, I'm too high to argue properly but I'm hopelessly addicted to it :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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