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im not 13
12/05/20 11:46:09 AM
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Fb: we are cracking down on hate speech
White people: BUT WHAT ABOUT US???

This topic in a nutshell

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King_Hutton
12/05/20 11:46:53 AM
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K181 posted...
So your response to a social media site prioritizing anti-black racism as a moderating target in 2020 was to bring up anti-Irish racism from over a century ago?
Thats how you know he has a very good argument

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g980
12/05/20 11:49:09 AM
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Im really curious why something automated in this fashion needs a priority order, but if it does then yea this makes sense

Does facebook explain why there needs be ordering?
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MrToothHasYou
12/05/20 12:39:46 PM
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This is good. Protecting white people or men is stupid and pointless.

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Lorthremar
12/05/20 12:44:03 PM
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im not 13 posted...
Fb: we are cracking down on hate speech
White people: BUT WHAT ABOUT US???

This topic in a nutshell
white people? being fragile?

as a white man, i am *shocked*

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Barber102
12/05/20 12:44:56 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
There are literally zero positives in treating racism towards anybody differently.


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nemu
12/05/20 12:45:50 PM
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Its fine to have a priority hierarchy for what gets deleted first, but all prejudice should be handled and punished exactly the same at the end of the day.
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SquirtleSkwad
12/05/20 12:45:50 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
The problem is the phrase "racism is racism".

There's this false idea that all racism is created equally.

Bruh, not all racism is equal and it's exactly because of historical reasons.

This isn't really that hard of a cultural nuance to understand.

But to assuage the "white racism hurts me too" folks in this discussion, yes, anti-white racism is bad. We can't heal as a unified people if there are others who still think ill of white people.

We should aim to dispel those notions and aim for a society in which everyone can co-exist peacefully.
Then make an effort to distinguish between those types of racism. Saying "systemic racism" instead of "racism" will go a long way in that regard.

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thronedfire2
12/05/20 12:50:08 PM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
This is the line of thinking that handwaves statements such as "White men are trash." How about we all take responsibility for our words and don't use blanket statements that we claim to hate.

the only place I even regularly statements like that is in dumb hypothetical topics on CE. The shit hardy happens in real life.

and half the racism against white people online is probably other whites people making fun of the racist ones

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Human_Username
12/05/20 12:58:00 PM
#61:


Lorthremar posted...
white people? being fragile?

as a white man, i am *shocked*
So if you're white and don't like racism you're fragile, but if you're any other race and dislike racism the world stands with you?

The irony here is delicious.

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im not 13
12/05/20 12:58:41 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
This is the line of thinking that handwaves statements such as "White men are trash." How about we all take responsibility for our words and don't use blanket statements that we claim to hate.

Apart from radical feminists I don't know anyone who has used the term "White men are trash"

And those type of feminists get loads of hate and rebuttal. It's not the same as the hate speech minorities get at all and you know it.

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im not 13
12/05/20 1:00:54 PM
#63:


Human_Username posted...
So if you're white and don't like racism you're fragile

wat

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CE_gonna_CE
12/05/20 1:00:55 PM
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VipaGTS
12/05/20 1:05:15 PM
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Human_Username posted...
So if you're white and don't like racism you're fragile, but if you're any other race and dislike racism the world stands with you?

The irony here is delicious.
Were tired of being PC! Say what you want! Suck it up, snowflake!....hey dont make fun of meeeeee!

those are the people who typically cry about what about racism against white people?!

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Human_Username
12/05/20 1:07:10 PM
#66:


im not 13 posted...
wat

Lorthremar posted...
im not 13 posted...
Fb: we are cracking down on hate speech
White people: BUT WHAT ABOUT US???

This topic in a nutshell
white people? being fragile?

as a white man, i am *shocked*
Read.

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Human_Username
12/05/20 1:08:55 PM
#67:


VipaGTS posted...
Were tired of being PC! Say what you want! Suck it up, snowflake!....hey dont make fun of meeeeee!

those are the people who typically cry about what about racism against white people?!
I can't say you're wrong, but lumping an entire group of people together based on the actions of a few morons is never a good idea.

Unless we're talking about the Smash Bros community, obviously <_<


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im not 13
12/05/20 1:09:52 PM
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I very much doubt he was being serious but you seem to be.

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Orlando_Jordan
12/05/20 1:11:47 PM
#69:


As a Black American who grew up during the 1990s when people didn't see race, just other people, I would like to see us go back.

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Human_Username
12/05/20 1:12:19 PM
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im not 13 posted...
I very much doubt he was being serious but you seem to be.
If that's the case I rescind my statement, but on this site you can never really tell.

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DrizztLink
12/05/20 1:12:46 PM
#71:


Orlando_Jordan posted...
As a Black American who grew up during the 1990s when people didn't see race, just other people, I would like to see us go back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

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TheLiarParadox
12/05/20 1:13:17 PM
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Makes sense to me.

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Flauros
12/05/20 1:14:01 PM
#73:


thronedfire2 posted...


and half the racism against white people online is probably other whites people making fun of the racist ones
Go onto any big city FB group page and ask the what they think of whites. See what responses you get from what demographics.


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StarReaper13
12/05/20 1:14:16 PM
#74:


LeadPipeCinche posted...
You mean like how you seem to forget (to fit your needs) that there was black people back then that also owned black slaves. There was also white slaves but fuck them I guess cause only black people have bad things happen to them.
Did you forget that black people only got rights like what, 60-70 years ago? But it seems like you forgot that to fit your needs.

Both of my grandmothers are older than that.

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Skype
12/05/20 1:15:35 PM
#75:


Of course the usual suspects are desperate to be victims.

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Lorthremar
12/05/20 1:22:23 PM
#76:


Human_Username posted...
So if you're white and don't like racism you're fragile, but if you're any other race and dislike racism the world stands with you?

The irony here is delicious.
post on your main you coward

mans really got an alt so he can race bait LMAOOO

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King_Hutton
12/05/20 1:41:12 PM
#77:


thronedfire2 posted...
and half the racism against white people online is probably other whites people making fun of the racist ones
Yeah this specifically has been the big problem with how their system has been working

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pikachupwnage
12/05/20 1:49:07 PM
#78:


MutantJohn posted...
I don't think you understand, like at all.

Racism against whites is "fine" because it's harmless. There's literally no repercussions from it.

White people have never suffered the same institutional oppression that people of color have which is why racism against non-whites is so much more forbidden.

While all racism is bad, yes, it's disingenuous to act like they're even close to being the same.

Literally no reprecussions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Chicago_torture_incident

I agree that insutional racism makes things different but let's not even approach trying to say its never harmful. That's dangerously close to outright condoning it and also patently false.

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Gobstoppers12
12/05/20 2:32:55 PM
#79:


Machete posted...
Par for that user's course tbh
You can use the @ function if you're trying to talk shit. When you take shots, don't be shy.

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Human_Username
12/05/20 2:45:02 PM
#80:


Lorthremar posted...
post on your main you coward

mans really got an alt so he can race bait LMAOOO
"If you can't attack the argument, attack the person".

Typical CE...

I should really leave it there, but in what way am I race baiting?


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kg88222
12/05/20 2:50:45 PM
#81:


This stuff has gotten out of control. Whatever makes money and creates more drama. It's basically warfare.
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DrizztLink
12/05/20 2:52:13 PM
#82:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
You can use the @ function if you're trying to talk shit. When you take shots, don't be shy.
That would require him to actually view you as worth the effort.

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Frogles
12/05/20 3:04:11 PM
#83:


MachineJaipur posted...
lmao

people posting "white people stupid" is not remotely comparable to the people posting "all of them GODDAMNED [redacted] should be DRUG OUT INTO THE STREETS and LINED UP WITH THEIR PROPHET BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and face SUMMARY EXECUTION FOR DARING TO ASK FOR BETTER TREATMENT"

probably gonna get modded for this lol
they could just have both flagged for deletion

anyway i dont entirely know whats going on with facebook so ill refrain from commenting on it. is the article saying "_______ people are stupid" doesn't get autoflagged anymore or just "white people are stupid".

regardless a lot of you are pretty racist.

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MajesticFerret
12/05/20 3:13:53 PM
#84:


Facebook still considers statements about men and white people to be in violation of its hate speech policy, and users can still report these statements

As long as this is the case, I see no issue with better algorthyms to find and automatically flag other more obvious forms of racism.

The only contention any non-racist should have is double standards, as double standards create systemic racism. As long as FB bans and removes content specifically targeted at a group of people based on race or gender, even if not considered a disenfranchised group, I don't see any issue in FB cracking down on more obvious and easily detectable forms of racism.

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Solid Sonic
12/05/20 3:34:13 PM
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I said before that I do think the harsh reality is not all ethnic groups deserve equal response to discrimination because the inequality is itself unequal.

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RetsuZaiZen
12/05/20 3:43:55 PM
#87:


AvlButtslam posted...
I don't have a problem with this


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Makeveli_lives
12/05/20 3:55:28 PM
#88:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I do. Racism is racism, and it should be enforced equally.
If it was actual racism sure. Someone saying mean shit on the internet doesn't equate to anything in real life. That's like saying one looking at a woman's ass as she passes is the same as one grabbing it. Neither is good but saying they should be treated equally is stupid.

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Collat
12/05/20 4:19:04 PM
#89:


Facebook puts a higher priority on detecting and deleting racist slurs and hate speech against Black people, Muslims, Jews, the LGBTQ community and people of more than one race than on statements such as White people are stupid
They know most of that is coming from self hating whites.

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nothanks1
12/05/20 4:20:52 PM
#90:


imagine unironically supporting racism in the year 2020
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Lorthremar
12/05/20 4:56:06 PM
#91:


Human_Username posted...
"If you can't attack the argument, attack the person".

Typical CE...

I should really leave it there, but in what way am I race baiting?
big scaredy baby won't post with his main account

lil baby coward

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DrizztLink
12/05/20 4:56:39 PM
#92:


Solid Sonic posted...
I said before that I do think the harsh reality is not all ethnic groups deserve equal response to discrimination because the inequality is itself unequal.


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nfearurspecimn
12/05/20 5:10:20 PM
#93:


Lebronwon posted...
White people are stupid and Men are pigs.
*gasp*

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Ving_Rhames
12/05/20 5:26:13 PM
#94:


Hahahahaha
I love how predictably this thread went. CE truly is an easy read.

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DarkChozoGhost
12/05/20 8:52:35 PM
#95:


"Calling someone white trash is exactly the same as calling someone the n word"

-half the people in the topic

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Middle hope
12/05/20 9:37:22 PM
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pikachupwnage
12/05/20 11:34:42 PM
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DrizztLink posted...

A good image.

There are limits to how far one can reasonably be expected to go for equity(in general) but it's good nonetheless to steer society more that way.

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LordMarshal
12/05/20 11:42:53 PM
#98:


Racism is racist about racism.

You kill racism with racism.

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