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hockeybub89 11/30/20 8:29:08 PM #101: |
Prismsblade posted...
Theres plenty of great jobs out there you can obtain with just a HS diploma. Likely wont be any sorta comfy office job though but its good pay non-the-less.So only rich people should be allowed to go to college right out of high school? Doctors, lawyers, engineers will be born rather than made. Something has to change to make college non-discriminatory towards the less fortunate --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/30/20 8:31:47 PM #102: |
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
If Biden cancels student debt, Do the people who never took student loans get a stimulus?If someone gets Medicare, do they get paid back for what they spent on private insurance the previous years? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 8:34:28 PM #103: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Something has to change to make college non-discriminatory towards the less fortunate That is what Buttigieg was arguing but people shit on him and actually demanded that the wealthier people get help instead. College tuition for poor people is actually free because of grant aid, yet few ever take advantage of that because poor people don't generally make it to college to begin with. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/30/20 8:37:59 PM #104: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
That is what Buttigieg was arguing but people shit on him and actually demanded that the wealthier people get help instead.Everyone should have equal access, wealthy, poor, whoever. College should be completely blind to your wealth. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Polycosm 11/30/20 8:38:58 PM #105: |
I'm not morally against cancelling student debt, but every cent of this money would be better spent on UBI.
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1NfamousACE_2 11/30/20 8:39:26 PM #106: |
hockeybub89 posted...
If someone gets Medicare, do they get paid back for what they spent on private insurance the previous years? No, but I was just using that example to show how ridiculous this topic is. --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/30/20 8:39:42 PM #107: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
Lol that seems unlikely --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/30/20 8:42:25 PM #108: |
Balrog0 posted...
Lol that seems unlikely Probably seems that way because he's pulling everything he says on the subject out of his ass. Really don't know that your assessment of him being earnest is right haha. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/30/20 8:45:22 PM #109: |
Balrog0 posted...
Lol that seems unlikelyhttps://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/grants You're not paying for Harvard with that, but it may cover getting started at a community college. Possibly even an in-state school. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 8:46:02 PM #110: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Everyone should have equal access, wealthy, poor, whoever. College should be completely blind to your wealth. It should be blind to your wealth. In practice though poor people: Don't have access to pre-k education Attend the worst public schools with no alternative Don't have access to tutors, college prep classes, after school programs, counselors, etc Do not have a parent that went to college themselves, education past high school is never even discussed as a possibility For some reason though we've decided that the major issue with education in this country is that people who do get a degree have to pay it off themselves, even though a degree has never been more profitable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 11/30/20 8:51:58 PM #111: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
That is what Buttigieg was arguing but people shit on him and actually demanded that the wealthier people get help instead.No, its not at all what he said or what youre arguing in favor of. Youre just lying your ass off. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phynaster 11/30/20 8:52:24 PM #112: |
Balrog0 posted...
Lol that seems unlikelyUnlikely is an understatement; it's a blatant falsehood. --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 11/30/20 8:53:45 PM #113: |
While there's no perfect solution, we certainly can't continue on like this when millennials can't afford homes due to student loan debt. Gotta think about the long term effects here.
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One_Day_Remains 11/30/20 8:55:20 PM #114: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
You posted this previously. It hasn't gotten any less stupid --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/30/20 8:56:25 PM #115: |
One_Day_Remains posted...
You posted this previously. It hasn't gotten any less stupidYou can't solve a problem while you're still actively causing it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 8:57:56 PM #116: |
COVxy posted...
Probably seems that way because he's pulling everything he says on the subject out of his ass. Really don't know that your assessment of him being earnest is right haha. https://research.collegeboard.org/pdf/trends-college-pricing-2013-full-report.pdf Seriously can you stop posting now? You've been wrong about everything and weirdly confident about it. You don't have to constantly remind us you don't know what it's like to be poor, we get it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EffectAndCause 11/30/20 8:59:58 PM #117: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
We get to be happy that other people will benefit from it WHAT IS THIS STRANGE WAY OF THINKING --- "WWE decisions make me root for AEW, AEW fans make me root for WWE." - EffectAndCause, 2019 https://imgur.com/wMshiEN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 11/30/20 9:00:06 PM #118: |
Only losers pay off their debt
Now pay for mine --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 9:00:16 PM #119: |
King_Hutton posted...
No, its not at all what he said or what youre arguing in favor of. Youre just lying your ass off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTClBIn620 Do you guys have some kind of fetish for being wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 11/30/20 9:08:01 PM #120: |
Posting a clip of a shitty politician saying shitty things doesnt make your blatant falsehoods any more accurate and Im not sure why youd think otherwise
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 9:09:11 PM #121: |
Pete never said that!
*video of Pete saying exactly that* I'm not sure why you'd think that changes anything... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 11/30/20 9:13:44 PM #122: |
Video evidence is an oxymoron
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Balrog0 11/30/20 9:13:48 PM #123: |
Lol I'm pretty surprised about that. I just checked and my pell grant didn't cover tuition and fees for me. I went to a very low cost school in arkansas
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King_Hutton 11/30/20 9:17:01 PM #124: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
Pete never said that!Ok you and another liar agree about your lies, is that a better way of phrasing it that doesnt hurt your sensibilities? --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 9:17:54 PM #125: |
King_Hutton posted...
Ok you and another liar agree about your lies, is that a better way of phrasing it that doesnt hurt your sensibilities? Oh so you're just trolling then. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lightwarrior78 11/30/20 9:18:03 PM #126: |
NightMarishPie posted...
I love how people making that argument are essentially making the equivalent of saying "fuck liability payouts to the families of the people that died on our watch even after we saved lives going forward." I don't know what it is about the idea that threatens people so much beyond it would mean for them a minor amount gained per month, but for others a big lump sum payment to have fun with right now. and they can't stand that thought. Either that or they don't want to admit others walked the same screwed up system and came out better because they didn't make the same choices (ie went to local school, worked over summer, didn't take an extra year to see Europe). I know people don't get it, but I do. On a smaller level example, I have a cousin owes my uncle money, and he'd be pissed to be forced to write it off when she had the chance to pay it back but thought a back tattoo was more important. (true example of poor priorities of people that are always broke). And yeah, it does not address the bigger issue, but then, people want an easy self serving answer. The real one is to extend high school through to grade 16 at the same style of cost, and let post secondary go back to over achievers and rich snobs. But that wouldn't allow the "freer that living with your parents lifestyle" people like and would now encourage junk education as opposed to core subjects. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/30/20 9:25:23 PM #127: |
Balrog0 posted...
Lol I'm pretty surprised about that. I just checked and my pell grant didn't cover tuition and fees for me. I went to a very low cost school in arkansas Saying something is true on average (with conditionals!) is very different than saying it is unilaterally true. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 9:29:05 PM #128: |
Balrog0 posted...
Lol I'm pretty surprised about that. I just checked and my pell grant didn't cover tuition and fees for me. I went to a very low cost school in arkansas A lot of people don't realize how heavily tuition is subsidized for the poor because... they aren't poor. And most poor people don't make it into college to actually take advantage of it, unfortunately. The whole narrative around student debt was created by wealthy people with graduate degrees who coincidentally came to the conclusion that we need to subsidize wealthy people with graduate degrees. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/30/20 9:30:51 PM #129: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
A lot of people don't realize how heavily tuition is subsidized for the poor because... they aren't poor. My efc was zero. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/30/20 9:32:09 PM #130: |
Lol.
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sktgamer_13dude 11/30/20 9:38:40 PM #131: |
Broseph: rich people would get a benefit so its obvious a bad idea
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 9:40:25 PM #132: |
And here's what I actually post:
Broseph_Stalin posted... Yes but there are much better ways of addressing inequality in education. This is probably the most regressive option you can take, even more so than doing nothing. You guys have such a fucking weird obsession with me that you're actually arguing for trickle down economics because I'm against it. Take a break from the internet, please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 11/30/20 9:42:22 PM #133: |
lmao Broseph blocked me
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Unsugarized_Foo 11/30/20 9:52:28 PM #134: |
Cause you made no sense
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GodBlessAustin 11/30/20 9:59:04 PM #135: |
You get nothing. They cant afford to give every single person who went to college ever a refund
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Lunar_Savage 11/30/20 9:59:33 PM #136: |
voldothegr8 posted...
Shitty bandaid solution, go after the people/entities charging exuberant amounts if anything is to be done. I didn't read the thread to see if anyone else bothered pointing out that those legally binding contracts were pimped out by government employees on the public dime and that they also used predatory practices to take advantage of the public at large. So fuck those contracts. Dump them all. I give absolutely zero fucks if you or anyone else agrees. --- Number of Mega Cookies given: (::::) 30 *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with a cane.* And yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 11/30/20 9:59:36 PM #137: |
hockeybub89 posted...
So only rich people should be allowed to go to college right out of high school? Doctors, lawyers, engineers will be born rather than made.What does it matter in the long run if a 18yo collage experiance is delayed by 2 or 3 years if it means they can avoid debt? Tons of young adults who join the military eventually leave, enter collage and obtain just such degrees minus debt. So implying the gates permanently closed to them makes no sense. And good luck with the latter statement, private university, and esepcially ivy leagues will remain out of reach from all but the wealthiest, talented, or just luckiest individuals there are. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/30/20 10:00:04 PM #138: |
GodBlessAustin posted...
You get nothing. They cant afford to give every single person who went to college ever a refund I'm banking on the public service loan forgiveness program myself. Covid has been really great as far as that goes! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 11/30/20 10:06:44 PM #139: |
Phynaster posted...
Hey hey hey, remember that Solid is a proud businessman and captain of industry, he knows these things Reminder that rebel is such a pathetically butthurt academic(probably some unpaid paper grader) that he thinks it's wildly outlandish that there are actually people who work for themselves and doesn't know how incredibly sad that makes him sound --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frizzurd 11/30/20 10:24:38 PM #140: |
I wish I had been deterred, instead of pushed to go to college.
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Phynaster 11/30/20 10:28:30 PM #141: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
Reminder that rebel is such a pathetically butthurt academic(probably some unpaid paper grader) that he thinks it's wildly outlandish that there are actually people who work for themselves and doesn't know how incredibly sad that makes him soundWait do academics not "work for themselves"? lmao And no, you just lie about your life while making wildly inaccurate shitposts that show no familiarity with things you should know about --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GodBlessAustin 11/30/20 10:34:25 PM #142: |
Frizzurd posted...
I wish I had been deterred, instead of pushed to go to college.Agreed shouldve just took that college money and put it in the S&P 500 then stayed at the supermarket and worked my way up there. Would be retired at 40. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 11/30/20 10:35:40 PM #143: |
Regardless of what job you have, we have an entire generation held back from the housing market and thats not a good thing.
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sktgamer_13dude 11/30/20 10:36:00 PM #144: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
You guys have such a fucking weird obsession with me that you're actually arguing for trickle down economics because I'm against it. Yes, because doctors have 100k loans that would be washed away by debt forgiveness but god forbid the person with a bachelors and 40k. They get nothing! Thats basically what youre trying to say. That only the top receives any benefit when youre fucking wrong. Shut the fuck up with your dumb posting for once. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/30/20 10:38:30 PM #145: |
Prismsblade posted...
delayed by 2 or 3 years if it means they can avoid debtThis implies they find a good paying job at 18 and live as lean as humanly possible. And then work full time while going to school. Good luck if they were planning on more than a bachelor's. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 11/30/20 10:42:14 PM #146: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Yes, because doctors have 100k loans that would be washed away by debt forgiveness but god forbid the person with a bachelors and 40k. They get nothing! Thats basically what youre trying to say. That only the top receives any benefit when youre fucking wrong. This is literally how Republicans sell trickle down economics. "We have to pass a bill that would give the majority of tax cuts to the wealthy because the poor would also be getting some relief." Except in this case the "poor" are people with four year degrees and not graduate degrees lol You will never be able to sell this nonsense as progressive policy, I'm sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 11/30/20 10:45:58 PM #147: |
No, shut the hell up
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Solid Snake07 11/30/20 10:53:03 PM #148: |
Phynaster posted...
Wait do academics not "work for themselves"? lmao Some of them do, but you certainly aren't one of them. You're not fooling anybody trying to shrug off how incredibly bitter you are about a vague detail of my life I mentioned weeks ago, lol --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 11/30/20 10:57:41 PM #149: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
Except if its 10k across the board, that helps lower income people a lot more as its harder for them to pay back loans. Like how is this so hard for you to understand? Oh right, its because all you do is troll and pull bullshit out of your ass and pass it off as fact. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/30/20 11:00:44 PM #150: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Except if its 10k across the board, that helps lower income people a lot more as its harder for them to pay back loans.I'm expecting "not in default" to be attached, which just fucks over the most fucked. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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